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Hi dyah,
thanks so much :)
as it is now : a foreign women married to an Indonesian man, gets (if asked) permanent residency(KITAP) for 5 years after one year of being married. and then extend after that for another 5 years, etcetc...
a Foreign man married to an Indonesian women, gets (if asked) a residency of 1 year (KITAS) after that year extend for another year, if this extension is going to expire he can apply for a permanent residency (KITAP) wich will be valid for 5 years, after 5 years extend again for 5 years, etcetc...
However with this the foreign man is not allowed to work.


fred2, yeah I understand what you mean and totally agree, they should make it easier...but maybe the indonesian government still has some 'problems' like if the country would rely to much on foreigners or foreigners creating work...The 'merdeka' feeling and we want/can do this alone without depending on foreigners, if you know what I mean?
 

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There's another article on this in the Jakarta Globe today. It would be great to see this go through.

The House of Representatives and the Ministry of Justice and Human Rights agreed on Thursday to introduce drastic rule changes relating to residential and work permits for foreign spouses in mixed marriages, signing a long-awaited draft immigration bill.

Lawmaker Pieter Zulkifli of the Democratic Party said the draft bill could go before a plenary session of the House next Thursday.

Eva Kusuma Sundari, a member of House Commission III overseeing legal affairs, from the opposition Indonesian Democratic Party of Struggle (PDI-P), said that under the new rules, expatriates married to Indonesians would automatically be granted a permanent residence permit as long as the Indonesian spouse can provide sponsorship.

These expatriates currently have to annually renew a temporary residence permit, also known as Kitas.

The bill would even allow these expatriates to stay in the country after divorcing their Indonesian partner as long as their marriage lasted at least 10 years.

Eva said this provision was necessary in light of the rights of children after a divorce.

Foreign spouses in a mixed marriage would also be allowed to work in the country, she said.

However, Syarifuddin Sudding, a Commission III member from the People’s Conscience Party (Hanura), warned the government would not have mercy on those abusing the regulations, citing the example of fake marriages to acquire a residence permit. Jail terms of up to five years and fines of up to Rp 500 million ($57,500) awaited violators, he said. “I hope the new regulations will not be used as a new opportunity for those who [just] want to get a permanent residence permit,” Sudding said.

Minister of Justice and Human Rights Patrialis Akbar said the bill was “very humane,” and he hoped all lawmakers would approve the bill.

The Democrats’ Pieter said foreign spouses would be allowed to work in the country, but they needed to show they had skills.

“At the moment, you have to wait five years or be sponsored by a company to work. But under the new regulation, you can work immediately, as long as you can show skills in a certain field.”

However, he added that the bill did not cover issues of property ownership related to foreign spouses. Eva said that issue would be regulated in another bill.

Julie Mace, a representative for the International Rainbow Alliance (APAB) and the Indonesian Mixed Marriage Society (PerCa Indonesia), welcomed the long-awaited move, saying it meets most of the aspirations of foreigners in mixed marriages.
 

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There's an update in the JP. The article doesn't make a lot of sense to me.


A legislator who had praised the immigration bill had to swallow her words shortly after a housewife told her that two vital points in the bill, which she had described as major progress, had been secretly omitted by unknown parties.

In a letter to Law and Human Rights Minister Patrialis Akbar, Eva Kusuma Sundari protested the omission of two key issues on expatriates and transnational marriages in the bill, which is scheduled to be passed by the House of Representatives on Thursday.

“To be honest, I didn’t know the problem during the hearing with the minister. Only when a woman later told me did I learn that the spirit of the bill had been drastically reduced,” the legislator from the Indonesian Democratic Party of Struggle (PDI-P) acknowledged to The Jakarta Post on Monday.


Key points in immigration bill removed | The Jakarta Post
 

spicyayam

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Good news

It looks as though the bill has been passed and it seems like it is a positive change for foreigners married to Indonesian citizens.

House Deputy Speaker Priyo Budi Santoso described the law as “monumental” and one of the most important pieces of legislation passed by the current batch of legislators.

The law grants permanent residency to the foreign spouses of Indonesian citizens after two years of marriage, requiring them to report to the Immigration Department once every five years.

The law also allows foreign spouses to remain the country if they are divorced after ten years of marriage. They can also work.

Minister of Justice and Human Rights Patrialis Akbar said the law allowed children from mixed marriages permanent residency until at least the age of 18.

“We want to give protection to Indonesian citizens and their foreign families and relatives. They are the children of Indonesia. Their [foreign] wives and husbands are part of our extended family,” he said.

Patrialis said the law also meant that foreign investors could now gain permanent residency after three years, down from the current five.

The law goes into force in a maximum of 30 days, he said.

The law contains no details about property ownership, which is still being debated under a separate bill.

Democratic Party of Struggle (PDI-P) lawmaker Eva Kusuma Sundari told the Jakarta Globe that Citizenship Law provided the legal framework for foreigners wishing to become Indonesian citizens.

Julie Mace, a representative of the International Rainbow Alliance and the Indonesian Mixed Marriage Society, said they would wait to see how the law was implemented in the field.

She said she hoped that the concerned government ministries would implement the law, particularly the rights of foreign spouses to work in the country.

Indonesian Women Hail Passing of Immigration Law | The Jakarta Globe
 

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Don't worry BKT you will be married for 2 years, by the time the law makers get around to putting it down on paper. then we can really see what the changers will be & how to use them.
 

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I just read here in Bahasa Indonesia ...
detikNews : Pengesahan UU Imigrasi, Berkah Bagi Pasangan WNI-WNA

So far ... and i think ...The Change come true!

Dyah

The Google translation of the article is quite readable:

Community husband and wife different nationalities, are very grateful to have been the passing of the new Immigration Act. The husband or wife they are foreigners, now have a legal umbrella to stay in Indonesia.

The atmosphere of joy is seen in the House of Representatives plenary session in which one of the agenda is passed the Immigration Act, on Thursday (07/04/2011). A group of female members of the Advocacy Team Mixed Marriage (TAPC) were present in the Parliament Building, Senayan, Jakarta, spontaneous congratulated each other and hugged each other when the parliament passed a new law that product.
"We are very grateful and appreciate the hard work and noble intention of the Parliament, and governments that have accommodated our aspirations," said one member of the TAPC, Rulita Anggraeni, smiling.

He said, the new Immigration Act to free foreigners married to Indonesians to obtain permanent residency in Indonesia. So no need to extend the visa every six months.
"The new Immigration Act has been a long time we wait for his birth. Now the family of mixed marriages have a new law to protect our families put equivalent position and protected by law like other families in Indonesia," said a foreign national husbands Indonesia, Julie Mace, laughing.

HAM Menkum Patrialis Akbar also appreciate the determination of Immigration Law. He said all foreigners who are married to citizens is part of the family Indonesa.
"I wish you good because they are our brothers-in-law," he said.
 

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Hai All,
This is the article i found on my facebook, and i thought it helps if i posted it here, however it is in Indo/Bahasa.
PS: I enclosed the english one but got them from Google translation
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UNDANG UNDANG TENTANG KEIMIGRASIAN YANG BARU UNTUK PERKAWINAN CAMPURAN:

VISA TINGGAL TERBATAS UNTUK PERKAWINAN CAMPURAN DIKATAGORIKAN SBG VISA TIDAK UNTUK BEKERJA.



IZIN TINGGAL TERBATAS. BERLAKU: 2 THN USIA PERKAWINAN DAN DIALIH STATUSKAN MENJADI IZIN TINGGAL TETAP (PR) + PERNYATAAN INTEGRASI.



IZIN TINGGAL TETAP (PR) BERLAKU : TIDAK TERBATAS SEPANJANG IZINNYA TIDAK DIBATALKAN. DIPERPANJANG SETIAP 5 THN TANPA DIKENAKAN BIAYA.



PEMEGANG IZIN TINGGAL TERBATAS & TETAP (PR) KARENA PERKAWINAN CAMPURAN DAPAT MELAKUKAN PEKERJAAN DAN/ATAU USAHA DALAM RANGKA MEMENUHI KEBUTUHAN HIDUPNYA DAN KELUARGANYA.



EX DK & EX WNI & ANAK DEWASA PERKAWINAN CAMPURAN TIDAK PERLU IZIN TINGGAL TERBATAS.

IZIN TINGGAL TETAP (PR):

DIBERIKAN KEPADA KELUARGA PERKAWINAN CAMPURAN (SUAMI/ISTRI/ANAK TANPA BATAS UMUR).
IZIN TINGGAL TETAP (PR) TIDAK DIBATALKAN AKIBAT KEMATIAN PASANGAN WNI NYA.
IZIN TINGGAL TETAP (PR) TIDAK DIBATALKAN AKIBAT PERCERAIAN UNTUK PERKAWINAN CAMPURAN YG TELAH BERUSIA 10 THN.
PEMEGANG IZIN TINGGAL TETAP (PR) KARENA PERKAWINAN CAMPURAN TIDAK MEMERLUKAN PENJAMIN.
TETAP PERLU IZIN MASUK KEMBALI (BERLAKU 2 TAHUN, UNTUK MULTIPLE RE-ENTRY).
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Vertaling van het Indonesisch in het Engels

IMMIGRATION LAW ON THE NEW FOR MIXED MARRIAGE:

LIMITED STAY VISA FOR MIXED MARRIAGE VISA categorized NOT TO WORK.



LIMITED STAY PERMIT. APPLY: 2 YEAR OLD AGE AND MARRIAGE LICENSE converted BECOME PERMANENT RESIDENCE (PR) + STATEMENT OF INTEGRATION.



PERMANENT RESIDENCE PERMITS (PR) APPLICABLE: NOT LIMITED TO THE EXTENT NOT CANCELED permission. Renewable every 5 YEAR WITHOUT COSTS IMPOSED.



LIMITED STAY PERMIT HOLDERS & EQUIPMENT (PR) FOR MIXED MARRIAGE MAY WORK AND / OR BUSINESS IN ORDER TO MEET NEEDS himself and his family.



EX EX DK & WNI & CHILD ADULT MIXED MARRIAGE LICENSE DOES NOT NEED TO STAY LIMITED.

PERMANENT RESIDENCE PERMITS (PR):

MIXED MARRIAGE GIVEN TO FAMILY (HUSBAND / WIFE / CHILD AGE WITHOUT LIMITS).
PERMANENT RESIDENCE PERMITS (PR) NOT CANCELED DUE TO DEATH OF HIS MATE WNI.
PERMANENT RESIDENCE PERMITS (PR) NOT CANCELED DUE TO MARRIAGE divorce WHICH HAVE BEEN MIXED AGE 10 THN.
PERMIT HOLDERS OF PERMANENT RESIDENCE (PR) FOR MIXED MARRIAGE DOES NOT NEED THE SECURITIES EXCHANGE.
STILL NEED TO GO BACK LICENSE (2 YEARS APPLICABLE, FOR MULTIPLE RE-ENTRY).
 
Hi Okta,
Pursuant to your post, I'd like to make a few comments.
The law that has voted by the DPR on April 7th is definitevely progressive and audacious by Indonesia standard. It comes in replacement of the outdated 1992 Immigration Act (UU 9/1992) who will be abrogated and replaced by the new law as soon as it is legalized. It will modify the vision of Immigration in Indonesia. In many ways it is influenced by the US and European immigration laws. It definitively emphasis family reunification and employment related immigration as the main criteria for immigration.

VISA TINGGAL TERBATAS UNTUK PERKAWINAN CAMPURAN DIKATAGORIKAN SBG VISA TIDAK UNTUK BEKERJA.
It is correct. Though the VITAS which will be delivered by embassies abroad to married applicants, is not categorized as a visa allowing to work, the article 61 of the law clearly states that both KITAS and KITAP holder married to a WNI may be authorised to work. The phrasing, though very general, leaves no doubt:

Pemegang Izin Tinggal terbatas sebagaimana dimaksud dalam Pasal 52 huruf e dan huruf f dan pemegang Izin Tinggal Tetap sebagaimana dimaksud dalam Pasal 54 ayat (1) huruf b dan huruf d dapat melakukan pekerjaan dan/atau usaha untuk memenuhi kebutuhan hidup dan/atau keluarganya

For reference, article 52 e and f are foreigners legally married to an indonesian national (letter e) and kids of foreigners legally married with an Indonesian. Article 54 ayat (1) refers to foreign kids, husband and wife of WNI (letter b) and former indonesian and former bi-nationals (letter d).

I have read here and there that "foreigners married to an Indonesian will be authorised to work wherever they want in the archipelago". Nothing is more inexact in my opinion. The law states only that these foreigners married with an indonesian, former WNI, and kids having chosen a foreign citizenship and relase their WNI status can be authorized to work. That's pretty much the terms of the article 61. It implies that further procedures, rules and limitations may (and will) occure. It is obviously not to an Immigration Act to clarify working issues. The immigration act can only categorize those eligible to work. That is a subsequent difference.

IZIN TINGGAL TERBATAS. BERLAKU: 2 THN USIA PERKAWINAN DAN DIALIH STATUSKAN MENJADI IZIN TINGGAL TETAP (PR) + PERNYATAAN INTEGRASI.
IZIN TINGGAL TETAP (PR) BERLAKU : TIDAK TERBATAS SEPANJANG IZINNYA TIDAK DIBATALKAN. DIPERPANJANG SETIAP 5 THN TANPA DIKENAKAN BIAYA.
Your source could have explained it better, especially in bahasa Indonesia. The computer generated translation makes it even worst. No offense intended.

There are two different categories of foreigners married to Indonesians.
1.Less than two years of marriage: they will be issued a KITAS. After 2 years of marriage, they will be welcomed in the second category.
2. More than two years of marriage: they will be issued with a KITAP which will have an unlimited validity (as long as they respect a few rules). Only a report to the Imigrasi will be necessary every 5 years with no fees charged for the report. It implies that the initial fee is the only one which will occure.
The pernyataan integrasi, as defined by the law, should be just a statement made to the goverment of Indonesia in order to get the KITAP issued. It's exact content is not yet defined by the Law itself, but will be define by further regulations (Peraturan Pemerintah).
The KITAP will be cancelled if the holder divorce from his/her Indonesian spouse or become widow before ten years of marriage. Past ten years of marriage, any of the two situations would trigger no consequences to the KITAP. Other reasons to have a KITAP revoked would be by, for example, if not report is made every 5 years or for leaving Indonesia for a period lasting more than 1 full year.

EX DK & EX WNI & ANAK DEWASA PERKAWINAN CAMPURAN TIDAK PERLU IZIN TINGGAL TERBATAS
This is a fundamental point. Pursuant to the 2006 Citizenship Act, kids born from a mixed marriage are allowed to have dual citizenship untill they reach the age of 18 y.o or untill they get married, whichever come first. Past it, they have to make a choice and keep only one citizenship. Should they choose their foreign citizenship, they are left with no other choice than leaving Indonesia (or finding a company to sponsor them for a work permit). Untill now, a mother/father can NOT sponsor a foreign kid who has reached his 18th birthday. It means that in fact the choice of our kids was almost void. If they were choosing their fireign citizenship, they had pretty much no other choice than leaving to make their life abroad. The new law changes drastically this situation. As soon as President SBY will legalize the new Law, this kids will be eligible to remain with a KITAP and a right of work (conditions will apply). That is a huge step forward for our kids.
The "Ex WNI" is not well explained in Okta's post. Again, no offense intended. The law stipulates that former Indonesian having lost their indonesian citizenship, by choice or obligations, are entitled to a KITAP and a right of work (conditions apply). This is a fantastic opportunity for Indonesia. Many of them have accumulated expertise and capital abroad are a given a chance to return and participate to the development of the country.

PEMEGANG IZIN TINGGAL TETAP (PR) KARENA PERKAWINAN CAMPURAN TIDAK MEMERLUKAN PENJAMIN.
That is also a very important stipulation.The law introduce a new legal notion. Sponsors are legally (financially and penally) responsable for their sponsoree. If a foreigner mess, the sponsor will be asked accountability. This will be true for any category of foreigners excluding those who are married with a local. At least, indonesian spouse of a foreigner won't be taken hostage of a situation. If one think about it, it has some importance.

Whatever type of immigration status we have (KITAS or KITAP) we will still be bounded by the the obligation to request an Izin Masuk Kembali (MERP) for our trip overseas.

All the existing Immigration fees will remain unchanged after the legalization of this law, untill further notice. Such fees are to be found in the Peraturan Pemerintah RI nomor 38 tahun 2009 tentag tarif dan jenis tarif penerimaan negara bukan pajak yang berlaku pada departemen hukum dan hak asasi manusia. (google the reference of the law and it will lead you to the material you need in order not to be ripped off by Imigrasi)

Definitively, getting married to an Indonesian becomes clearly advantageous. However, don't rush. Pick the right bride :icon_wink:
The stipulation of the article 135 should chill a few:

"Setiap orang yang melakukan perkawinan semu dengan tujuan untuk memperoleh Dokumen Keimigrasian dan/atau untuk memperoleh status kewarganegaraan Republik Indonesia dipidana dengan pidana penjara paling lama 5 (lima) tahun dan denda paling banyak Rp500.000.000,00 (lima ratus juta rupiah)."

I leave you guys the pleasure to translate it yourself. :icon_lol:

The law will be legalized in the 30 days of it's enactment by the DPR (ie before May 7th). It should not even last untill then. In a week or so, it should be publicized. Some of the stipulations will take force immediately. Ex: those who have more than two years of marriage and being KITAS holder can convert their ITAS in an ITAP in accordance with the existing regulations. It ain't that big of a deal. It requires a circuit involving Kantor Imigrasi, Kantor Wilayah, Direktorat Jenderal Imigrasi then back to Kantor Wilayah and Kantor Imigrasi. It costs IDR 3.000.000 for the KITAP fee, which is the legal fee and what I've paid for mine. Other stipulations of the law will require further Peraturan Pemerintah to be enacted in order to elaborate the procedures to be followed. The law gives a maximum of 12 months to the government to enact ALL the necessary regulation for this law to be fully implemented.

The law is not officially available yet, at least until its legalization by SBY and its registering and numbering to the Sekretariat Nasional. However, as soon as it happens, it should be available online (at least on the website of the Direktorat Jenderal perundang Undangan which are usually the first on the ball) with the reference Undang-Undang RI nomor X tahun 2011 tentang Keimigrasian. "X" will very certainly "4" or "5" being the next numbers available (The DPR have voted only three laws prior to this one since the beginning of the year).

If anyone is interested, I have written a bunch of other posts in another forum and will comment and translate all articles of the law little by little, when time allows. Not difficult to find.

Wish you all a lot of fun in Indonesia, at least as much as I have myself. :icon_biggrin:
Sorry for the length of the post. :icon_rolleyes:
 
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Well, for that much useful information in this post and on other forums, you can have any name you want :icon_biggrin: