I've watched this building on FB and in Ubud and frankly I'm not convinced there are that many incidents that are valid.
It's more of "oh, I heard about this" and "I saw this" and "my friend had this happen last time she was in Kuta" kind of thing.
I've really tried to find out if there are real people having real crimes committed against them (written and asked, that's all) but I have to say I'm not entirely convinced that anything is happening.
I may be wrong.
If the victims are able to provide a license plate number (unlikely while being attacked), then they might be able to try to track down these people. Otherwise, they escape into the night and no one can tell the difference between them and any random two Indonesians on a motorbike.
Am actually interested to hear what they think the solution is.
a 18year old died in a pick-pocketing and people gonna gather to mourn the dead and show their anger about this ongoing insecurity and u look for some entertainment ?? sound weird to me mister...
yes you are wrong markit. I t happens here now every day and I know A LOT of girls who are victims of these kind of violent assaults. These cowards just attacking girls (also indonesian girls), shame on them!! I barely now a girl here in the south (krobokan, Canggu, Seminyak, Legian, Kuta, Denpasar, sanur etc) who hasn't been molested or robbed at daylight or at nighttime....
yes you are wrong markit. I t happens here now every day and I know A LOT of girls who are victims of these kind of violent assaults. These cowards just attacking girls (also indonesian girls), shame on them!! I barely now a girl here in the south (krobokan, Canggu, Seminyak, Legian, Kuta, Denpasar, sanur etc) who hasn't been molested or robbed at daylight or at nighttime....
Are there any theories or ideas who might be behind these attacks? Opportunistic individuals or organized gangs?
Well said!I think she's got a point. Several actually;
[h=5]Lizzie Love
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I certainly can appreciate the intent, concern and the effort put in for this event and I thank you for that. I humbly ask that before proceeding any further you consider the following:
1. Legality issues: The right to assemble; licensing requirements; the right to post banners on public and private property; interference with traffic, visa restrictions on actions taken etc. A night or 2 in the Poldar is not a fun experience and legal expenses could be hefty.
2. Media Involvement/ Impact on tourism: International media have a clear bias and ratings agenda to report and skew reporting to the negative; historically the more international media the less likely to have a positive outcome; open participation by attendees who speak to media has the potential to be emotive, speculative, unsubstantiated negative gossip and may be legally defamatory and racially biased. Correct me if I am wrong but defamation in Indonesia is a criminal offense not a civil one.
3. Election in July: Please consider the timing of such a demonstration. A demonstration like this could be used and skewed for political advantage
4. Efforts and investigations in process: The assumption that the Police has and intends to do nothing is specious. The Police and the local Banjars are very concerned and currently there are investigations taking place that could be undermined by a demonstration. Actions being taken by Police are understandably kept confidential during an ongoing investigation. Crimes of this nature are difficult to solve and prosecute because evidence is often vague and unverifiable. Law enforcement need time to gather evidence that meets the standards for successful prosecution. Simply because you are unaware of current Police efforts does not mean they do not exist. By default a demonstration like this is has the potential to alienate the very people [Police, Banjars, Government officials etc] by implying that they are not doing anything to combat. This is simply not the case.
5. Alternatives: Quietly gather and pass on specific and factual information about the perpetrators that can assist the Police to make an arrest and that meets evidentiary standards for the Prosecutors office to proceed.
Note: If this is gang related those who have useful information will be more likely to come forward in a confidential environment than if this becomes a public free-for-all; the potential for which with a demonstration being high
Combine your efforts with groups already working on this issue and who are long term permanent residents with perhaps a better understanding of how things work in Indonesia and in Bali. Make your first step be one of cooperation and communication with Law Enforcement in an organised private environment. Work behind the scenes in a polite, media and publicity free environment with the Police and the local Banjars.
Your efforts are truly appreciated however I humbly ask based on the above that you reconsider this initiative.
actually i don't think bali is the place for single women to live on their own! Safety wise i mean..
like...at the risk of being accused of 'always trying to get the last word in' i have to ask samsiam what the fuck are you on about?
...oh and that goes for the
alice' post as well..