The reality is that you, the owner, will need to pay anything that must be paid. I don't know what the legality is.
Thanks RonB. Does anyone know the exact law? Also, is this rationale applied to those who are passengers in taxi cabs and buses? Will you be singled out during razia and pulled over, even though you're in a cab or bus? I know this seems like a ridiculous question but the laws seem to be enforced in a somewhat arbitrary manner around here, a manner in which a new tourist might decide not to come here a second time.
If you keep on biting the hands that feed you, you'll soon go hungry.
Well again I don't know legal stuff. But I think that taxis and bus companies will be responsible for their problems. But when you employ a driver, you are just paying him to drive. He does not have liability insurance or any of that "western" stuff. So you own the car, you have hired the driver, then some problem crops up. You can't seriously expect the driver to pay?
The "Western stuff" you've so hastily dismissed is called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY and it should be universal. If your driver is licensed to drive in this province and he mows down a scooter in your vehicle, in the absence of insurance the responsibility should be his....he was in control of the vehicle and as long as you didn't a have a gun to his head forcing him to drive with reckless abandon, it's either his fault or the fault of the scooter operator.
Why is everyone around here so determined to duck personal responsibility? It's the core reason why driving around here is such a god-awful task.
The heart of the problem is Sawbones that you haven't taken your concept of "personal responsibility" to its logical (for the Indonesian) conclusion and that you are looking at the situation with "western" eyes so here is a little translational and cultural help:
1) If you had a radio controlled car that got into an accident you would be responsible correct? Well by hiring a driver here you have in effect created that situation - you should have told him exactly how to drive - slowly, carefully, etc. etc. It was your responsibility!
2) If you weren't here the accident wouldn't have happened! Again, your responsibility!
3) In a private hired vehicle you will always be the one with the deepest pockets as your driver has hired the vehicle, himself, from a 3rd party so you are basically just a part of a larger transaction which you have agreed to by not driving yourself or taking a hire taxi everywhere on the island - probably thru a wish to "save" money? Again, your responsibility and choice!
If you wish to have a situation where all things are regimented by past government/court decisions they perhaps it would be best if you stayed the feck out of the developing world?:icon_rolleyes:
1) If you had a radio controlled car that got into an accident you would be responsible correct? Well by hiring a driver here you have in effect created that situation - you should have told him exactly how to drive - slowly, carefully, etc. etc. It was your responsibility!
2) If you weren't here the accident wouldn't have happened! Again, your responsibility!
3) In a private hired vehicle you will always be the one with the deepest pockets as your driver has hired the vehicle, himself, from a 3rd party so you are basically just a part of a larger transaction which you have agreed to by not driving yourself or taking a hire taxi everywhere on the island - probably thru a wish to "save" money? Again, your responsibility and choice!
If you wish to have a situation where all things are regimented by past government/court decisions they perhaps it would be best if you stayed the feck out of the developing world?:icon_rolleyes:
The heart of the problem is Sawbones that you haven't taken your concept of "personal responsibility" to its logical (for the Indonesian) conclusion and that you are looking at the situation with "western" eyes so here is a little translational and cultural help:
1) If you had a radio controlled car that got into an accident you would be responsible correct? Well by hiring a driver here you have in effect created that situation - you should have told him exactly how to drive - slowly, carefully, etc. etc. It was your responsibility!
2) If you weren't here the accident wouldn't have happened! Again, your responsibility!
3) In a private hired vehicle you will always be the one with the deepest pockets as your driver has hired the vehicle, himself, from a 3rd party so you are basically just a part of a larger transaction which you have agreed to by not driving yourself or taking a hire taxi everywhere on the island - probably thru a wish to "save" money? Again, your responsibility and choice!
If you wish to have a situation where all things are regimented by past government/court decisions they perhaps it would be best if you stayed the feck out of the developing world?:icon_rolleyes:
1) If you had a radio controlled car that got into an accident you would be responsible correct? Well by hiring a driver here you have in effect created that situation - you should have told him exactly how to drive - slowly, carefully, etc. etc. It was your responsibility!
2) If you weren't here the accident wouldn't have happened! Again, your responsibility!
3) In a private hired vehicle you will always be the one with the deepest pockets as your driver has hired the vehicle, himself, from a 3rd party so you are basically just a part of a larger transaction which you have agreed to by not driving yourself or taking a hire taxi everywhere on the island - probably thru a wish to "save" money? Again, your responsibility and choice!
If you wish to have a situation where all things are regimented by past government/court decisions they perhaps it would be best if you stayed the feck out of the developing world?:icon_rolleyes:
Developing? That may not be the correct term. It's seems as though things have been stopped cold since 1948. Accepting personal responsibility is a necessary component of evolution are you saying that eventual extinction is a better choice? The extinction part could be right around the corner, with "out of control" population growth (again, that pesky personal responsibility thing rearing it's beautiful head) famine, drought and death by disease won't be too far down the road on such a tiny island. In Flagstaff, AZ USA fox and skunk are now spreading rabies amongst themselves through mere social contact, that's mighty disturbing, considering it's happening in a developed country. What do you think will happen if that scenario unfolds here? Thanks to the ducking of personal responsibility the rabies virus has had ample time to mutate. The assumption that all westerners have deep pockets is erroneous, many of us are here for various reasons probably too many to cite.