Sound good Rakini... viva big tolerance between religions!
And for Theo, i hope you can find the best way for your wedding ...
-Dyah
And for Theo, i hope you can find the best way for your wedding ...
-Dyah
Marriage protestant/ catholic
- Thread starter Theo
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I got married in Indonesia about a year ago. I am catholic and my wife was muslim. She converted to catholic, however it wasn't that simple.
We went to St. Francis Xavier church in Kuta and she had to go there once a week for about 6 or 8 weeks total for study (learning all the prayers etc.) and after that had to be baptized.
However all went very well and everybody was very helpful.
We went to St. Francis Xavier church in Kuta and she had to go there once a week for about 6 or 8 weeks total for study (learning all the prayers etc.) and after that had to be baptized.
However all went very well and everybody was very helpful.
Hi Sander,
Did she also have to do her first communion and then, probably the next day, confirmation?
Did she also have to do her first communion and then, probably the next day, confirmation?
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Hee, we speak English here...
But a marriage contract is advised, also if you want to buy property later on your wifes name
Hee, we speak English here...
But a marriage contract is advised, also if you want to buy property later on your wifes name
Marcel said:
I mean "huwelijkse voorwaarden", and that is also how its called in Indonesian.. 
If you you don't have "ownership separated" by contract, everything that is bought in marriage, is owned by both. But this creates a problem for land that is bought by your wife, since you have Dutch Nationality and cannot own property in Bali directly.
If you you don't have "ownership separated" by contract, everything that is bought in marriage, is owned by both. But this creates a problem for land that is bought by your wife, since you have Dutch Nationality and cannot own property in Bali directly.
Right however, I believe its possible to make a contract at the notary about who owns what percentage of land/house property after your marriage as well but I am not 100 percent sure about it.
I had a (dutch) friend in bali who owned a house for 40 percent, his wife 40 percent and his brother 20 percent. After they devorced the house was sold and everybody got his share.
I had a (dutch) friend in bali who owned a house for 40 percent, his wife 40 percent and his brother 20 percent. After they devorced the house was sold and everybody got his share.
Right.
You can not "buy" it. You can only pay for it.
But, you can supply her with a loan for it, in some form.
Ok, its not romantic, but....
You can not "buy" it. You can only pay for it.
But, you can supply her with a loan for it, in some form.
Ok, its not romantic, but....
Re: RE: Marriage protestant/ catholic
This cannot have been an official legal agreement.
Foreigners cannot directly own property, but something like Hak Pakai, can be solution if you want something on your own name.
[brl:28k8ixf3]http://www.bali-information.com/bali-news.php/story/17/hak-pakai[/brl:28k8ixf3]
sander said:
This cannot have been an official legal agreement.
Foreigners cannot directly own property, but something like Hak Pakai, can be solution if you want something on your own name.
[brl:28k8ixf3]http://www.bali-information.com/bali-news.php/story/17/hak-pakai[/brl:28k8ixf3]
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Theo with prenuptial agreement whatever property in your wife's name will remain hers, even though it's not really hers if you manage to make agreement with her in notary when you buy the land, using nomanee system that stated the land is in her name but you are the one that pay for it, with special loan form (as Bert wrote), the amount of loan usually the price of land + building price which you are going to build. Basically the land in her name but you 'own' it as you are the one that pay for it. In pre nup you can also arrage percentage of how much each other get if the marriage have to end in divorce. It is not romantic but it is good to protect both of you.. for more information about this subject i suggest you go to notary...
Congratulation for you and your love one........
Bert said:
Theo with prenuptial agreement whatever property in your wife's name will remain hers, even though it's not really hers if you manage to make agreement with her in notary when you buy the land, using nomanee system that stated the land is in her name but you are the one that pay for it, with special loan form (as Bert wrote), the amount of loan usually the price of land + building price which you are going to build. Basically the land in her name but you 'own' it as you are the one that pay for it. In pre nup you can also arrage percentage of how much each other get if the marriage have to end in divorce. It is not romantic but it is good to protect both of you.. for more information about this subject i suggest you go to notary...
Congratulation for you and your love one........
yes Sunflower - marriage contract is not romantic... and for indonesian people and family is like like to say them "i don´t trust you". I know a couple that canceled their marriage, than the family is contra pre nup contract.
I´m for pre nup ... and iám sure ...it´s good for both of you.
-Dyah
PS.
To buy property in Indonesia is marriage contract usefull... or your wife must have status "single" :lol:
I´m for pre nup ... and iám sure ...it´s good for both of you.
-Dyah
PS.
To buy property in Indonesia is marriage contract usefull... or your wife must have status "single" :lol:
Sorry bert your right ingris sekarang,
Theo
Keep remember my words,always first this contract!!!!
Don´t go for a different status of you new wife KTP.
Only the contract is the way.
And never ever let you family inlaws arrange any of this.
Do it your self ,get thet info also by your self.
Even if the wedding is maybe sooner then you have al your information
Don´t forget this
The best of luck with the wedding.
Ps if you want you could call me if you in Indonesia.
Theo
Keep remember my words,always first this contract!!!!
Don´t go for a different status of you new wife KTP.
Only the contract is the way.
And never ever let you family inlaws arrange any of this.
Do it your self ,get thet info also by your self.
Even if the wedding is maybe sooner then you have al your information
Don´t forget this
The best of luck with the wedding.
Ps if you want you could call me if you in Indonesia.
Theo I´m not try to atack your wife or family,
But the culture is so diiferent then in holland.
This is so needed for you so your life is in balance with you and your family.
Its a power balance wich will be not in balance if you don´t have a good contract.
grtz
Marcel
But the culture is so diiferent then in holland.
This is so needed for you so your life is in balance with you and your family.
Its a power balance wich will be not in balance if you don´t have a good contract.
grtz
Marcel
Also keep in mind, although its not very likely she ever will (after all its Indonesia), that if a woman inherits property, and you don't have a contract, she cannot own her own heritage, legally.
But, in Bali the boys get all anyway, most of the time...
But, in Bali the boys get all anyway, most of the time...
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Congratulations Theo and significant other! May you two live a blissful, health and happy life!
Congratulations Theo and significant other! May you two live a blissful, health and happy life!
I'm surprised to hear this, BaliLife, I would have thought that Catholic priests were not at liberty to marry a mixed couple. Could it have been maybe that the marriage was held in a Catholic church building but by a non Catholic priest?BaliLife said:
After reading all of this thread I would go for the "girl friend" option.
Sounds way too complicated for a simple human couple to fight their ways through.
Don't we make our own lives difficult though?
Sounds way too complicated for a simple human couple to fight their ways through.
Don't we make our own lives difficult though?