Heya,

Has anybody been to see the Trunyan village? I am so intrigued and have been trying to go for such a long time, the last trip I got to Kintamani and then some parking guy said if we went down there without a guide we would never come back… he then proceeded to tell us how his brother was available and was a guide and could take us now.. My partner listened to the first part ignoring the last and said no way, personally I am still convinced he said it to get us to go with his available brother…

Anyway, is it worth the journey back there to see it or is it pretty boring?

I was talking to a Nat Geo Photographer about 2 years ago that went there and she said it was amazing however you have to be careful with what you wear etc because they can refuse you coming in?

Does anyone know any more info about going there, what you should wear, do you need a guide etc?

Thanks 
 
...some parking guy said if we went down there without a guide we would never come back… he then proceeded to tell us how his brother was available and was a guide and could take us now...
Ha-ha-ha. Absolutely priceless comment!

I've been to Trunyan a total of four times, but a long time ago (first encounter in 1973).
I was still a novice traveller in the early 1970s. The "road" from Penelokan down to Kedisan was a dirt track. It didn't help that I drove down there in a 1946 Willy's jeep, with left-hand drive and four bald tyres.
And stoned, as well (high on some Frank Sumatra grass). Well...it was the 1970s!

There were four other stoned people in the jeep. It was a kind of "Five Go To Bali" trip. We parked the jeep next to a jetty, got suckered into hiring a dug-out canoe and proceeded to paddle our way to mysterious Trunyan.
Halfway across Lake Batur, a small motorised boat passed us full of laughing Balinese. They were laughing at us! No problem. We laughed back at them, and waved as well (good grass).

Some big black clouds suddenly swept over the crater rim and hovered ominously above us. Was it going to rain? Anybody got an umbrella? Will we get killed by a lightning strike?
They seemed to pass as quickly as they'd arrived (either that, or we were more stoned than we thought - maybe even imagined the clouds).

We finally landed our floating log at Trunyan. Not sure who was more surprised...the locals, us, or both. Whatever. I believe that they were quite impressed by our efforts to get there.
Then the "tour" began. We saw a few bamboo cages on the ground with some bones inside. Given the year, they might have been human bones (not chicken or something else).
Various old Chinese coins were pointed out to us (the ones with a hole in the centre). The magical tree that eliminates the smell of rotting corpses was also highlighted.

We then walked into the village proper and were taken to what I think was a classroom.
Communication was a bit of a problem - nobody spoke English, and many of the locals didn't speak Indonesian.
We were told about a giant statue in the village, but were not allowed to see it (even if actually exists).
We were pretty tired after all the rowing, and a bit bored so we left.

No - we didn't row back the way we came. We thought we'd be smart(er) and paddled across the lake to Toyabungkah.
There was no road between there and Kedisan then, only a tortuous dirt track strewn with very sharp volcanic rocks (and boulders).
We managed to get the motorised "ferry" and were glad to see that our jeep was still where we left it.

Trying to drive back up to Penelokan was a nightmare. We got stuck on an incline with a gradient of about 1:2. But that's another story.

My later visits to Trunyan were not so good. A kind of mafia element emerged. People were hassled halfway there to pay more than the agreed price.
Others were not allowed to leave unless they paid more. On the other side of the lake, a similar (maybe the same), mafia-like group refused to let people climb Mt Batur without a "guide".
Of course, many people complained and I think the governor of the Bangli regency put a stop to this in the last year.

It's been at least 25 years since I last went to Trunyan. After the last time, I vowed never to go back there again. Tourists, travellers, backpackers, anthropologists, etc, have different agendas.
And different experiences, of course.

Roy, a formerly highly prolific poster on this forum had this to say in June 2011 on Lonely Planet's Thorntree:

...No tourist in their right mind should give Trunyan village a second thought. The villagers are horrible even unto other Balinese. They are rip off artists of the first rate.
Tourists interested in the Bali Aga are far better off visiting the village of Tenganan.
Roy calls himself "ubudian" these days on Thorntree.
Bali-Java - Lonely Planet travel forum

You could also check out the following links for more information:

Trunyan - The Bali Aga of Trunyan
Trunyan Village - Bali Forum - TripAdvisor
Trunyan Village, Bali, indonesia on Vimeo

The Vimeo video isn't really about Trunyan. There are some photos taken in Trunyan - the rest are main-frame Bali. (The soundtrack is pretty awful.)

CONCLUSION

By all means go to Trunyan and see what it's all about for yourself.

A much better "Bali Aga" village, IMHO, would be Tengganan (near Candi Dasa in East Bali).
There are some little-known others, but I'm not gonna tell.

:indecisiveness:
 
What a great reply, ps I want to know the other story.. if its close to this one it will be damn entertaining. Frank Sumatra sounds much better than sinatra anyday haha.

Oh I have never heard of the Tengganan village, that woiuld be cool or you could PM me the other little known ones and I swear to keep a secret.

I think I will perhaps take the word of Roy over the parking guy and perhaps not go there.. My ass was so so sore when we got there and to be turned around made it hurt that bit more..
 
I remember Jakarta Post having a story on Trunyan. Here you go;


The people of Trunyan asked the island’s tour operators to include the tiny lakeside village on the operators’ travel packages again, promising that they would treat the visiting tourist in hospitable ways.

For years, travel operators have dropped Trunyan off their travel packages following scores of complaints from visiting tourists stating that the local people had charged them exorbitant prices for lake-crossing boat services, local guide fees and souvenirs. The village was one of the island’s top destinations in the 1990s.

the entire story on;

Trunyan promises hospitability to tourists | The Jakarta Post
 
soontobeexpat
...Oh I have never heard of the Tengganan village, that woiuld be cool or you could PM me the other little known ones and I swear to keep a secret.
Believe me, you do not want to visit those "secret" Bali Aga villages I referred to, unless you're really an anthropologist or a medical doctor.

Let's just say that the few I've stumbled across are all in the mountains somewhere and not exactly hospitable. From memory, most of the people in one village were all deaf.
Nobody came out to greet me (don't blame them). I felt like I was intruding and wasn't welcome. I also felt like I was an alien from outer space, even though by this time, I was driving a cute bright yellow Suzuki Jimmny.

I met no one - people peeked out at me from their tiny windows (fear, curiosity or wonder at my white skin)- no idea what they were thinking!
I might have been playing some Dangdut disco on the car stereo, (or perhaps Niki Ardilla/Nicky Astria/God Bless/Rolling Stones - don't remember).
Since most of them were deaf, I doubt this had anything to do with anything.

Another community I stumbled across, also somewhere in the mountains, was palpably hostile. I drove a red Jimmny that time. That village was perched at the dead-end of the "road", with a sheer cliff of a few hundred metres.
To this day, I always have music playing in my car. These villagers were not deaf. Hmmm - what was I playing then? Maybe Maribeth doing Denpasar Moon? A bit of Bach? ZZTop?
(I have eclectic musical tastes - some people reckon I have none.)

Quite frankly, it was the first time I'd been in any village in Bali where I thought I might be dragged out of the car, sacrificed and possibly eaten (either by the people or their mountain dogs).

These kinds of places are never on tourist itineraries. They are, more likely than not, inbred and incestual communities (kids with six toes, seven fingers, stuff like that). Shades of "Deliverance Country".
I'm quite happy to keep their locations a "secret", since I am neither an anthropologist nor a physician.

Moving along now:

You may see occasional references to "Mt Penulisan". This mountain doesn't actually exist any more. What it was was the proto-mountain (original first mountain) in the Batur area.
When one looks at the present Batur caldera, one can only imagine how big the original mountain might have been, blowing its top at least two times in past geological times.
Estimates vary - evidence suggests 30,000 and 20,000 years ago. Mount Batur was one result of what must have been cataclysmic seismic events.
Mt Agung would possibly have been dwarfed by Mt Penulisan (oh - I only studied geology in highschool and one year in university).
I guess the Batur complex could be regarded as a "super volcano", like Mt Tambora, the Lake Toba district and Yellowstone Park in the USA.

Other trivia:

"Outsiders" are not allowed to see the giant underground statue of "Bhatara Da Tonta" in Trunyan. Interesting name, that - like a mixture of Sanskrit and Spanish/Portugese?
I hope the statue is not a representation of "The Lone Ranger", but I digress, as usual.

I think this is around the time of year when Tengganan has some special events. Like beautiful young Tengganannettes on small hand-driven ferris wheels. Maybe discounts on double ikat weavings.

"Bali Aga"? Think Tengganan.
"Trunyan"? Ask to see the hidden statue.

Good luck!

:eagerness:
 
At Tenganan Pegringsingan village, the Kalima Ceremony is in full swing (18 Mai/19 June). It consists in a nonstop series of village activities, some rather of a private character, and some others public and very spectacular. In particular, the Maling-malingan, which will take place June 4 and 5.

But the one event not to be missed, the most spectacular, is the Makare-kare (also known as the Pandan war), when you can see (and participate in) the fights with the thorny pandanus leaves. This event will take place on June 8 and 9.
 
I've been there twice. the last time it was 3 months ago. I went there with my friends. I am a Balinese with 2 Austrian friends We drive our car untill Trunyan village, but i will not recomend you to drive there by yourlself if you are not familiar with steep and narrow road. But the road condition is quiet good. I don't need a guide because I've been there before and it is safe. As We arrive in Trunyan village, I rent a traditional boat with the price Rp. 450.000, for all including entrance fee. The villagers were so nice and friendly.I posted some pic on Facebook. Bali Today | Facebook.
 
Hi, Katek

I found your description of Trunyan on your Facebook site interesting.
Good photos, too.
So - the going price these days is Rp 150,000 per person on a "traditional boat"?
Doesn't sound like a dug-out canoe. I guess that's progress.

:icon_lol:
 
Hi Johnny,
Actually this boat can be shared for max 6 passanger, but I prefered to make it just 3 of us.
It is padled by two ppl, I m not sure for the name. Hehehehe.... :)
 
Ha-ha-ha. Absolutely priceless comment!

I've been to Trunyan a total of four times, but a long time ago (first encounter in 1973).
I was still a novice traveller in the early 1970s. The "road" from Penelokan down to Kedisan was a dirt track. It didn't help that I drove down there in a 1946 Willy's jeep, with left-hand drive and four bald tyres.
And stoned, as well (high on some Frank Sumatra grass). Well...it was the 1970s!

There were four other stoned people in the jeep. It was a kind of "Five Go To Bali" trip. We parked the jeep next to a jetty, got suckered into hiring a dug-out canoe and proceeded to paddle our way to mysterious Trunyan.
Halfway across Lake Batur, a small motorised boat passed us full of laughing Balinese. They were laughing at us! No problem. We laughed back at them, and waved as well (good grass).

Some big black clouds suddenly swept over the crater rim and hovered ominously above us. Was it going to rain? Anybody got an umbrella? Will we get killed by a lightning strike?
They seemed to pass as quickly as they'd arrived (either that, or we were more stoned than we thought - maybe even imagined the clouds).

We finally landed our floating log at Trunyan. Not sure who was more surprised...the locals, us, or both. Whatever. I believe that they were quite impressed by our efforts to get there.
Then the "tour" began. We saw a few bamboo cages on the ground with some bones inside. Given the year, they might have been human bones (not chicken or something else).
Various old Chinese coins were pointed out to us (the ones with a hole in the centre). The magical tree that eliminates the smell of rotting corpses was also highlighted.

We then walked into the village proper and were taken to what I think was a classroom.
Communication was a bit of a problem - nobody spoke English, and many of the locals didn't speak Indonesian.
We were told about a giant statue in the village, but were not allowed to see it (even if actually exists).
We were pretty tired after all the rowing, and a bit bored so we left.

No - we didn't row back the way we came. We thought we'd be smart(er) and paddled across the lake to Toyabungkah.
There was no road between there and Kedisan then, only a tortuous dirt track strewn with very sharp volcanic rocks (and boulders).
We managed to get the motorised "ferry" and were glad to see that our jeep was still where we left it.

Trying to drive back up to Penelokan was a nightmare. We got stuck on an incline with a gradient of about 1:2. But that's another story.

My later visits to Trunyan were not so good. A kind of mafia element emerged. People were hassled halfway there to pay more than the agreed price.
Others were not allowed to leave unless they paid more. On the other side of the lake, a similar (maybe the same), mafia-like group refused to let people climb Mt Batur without a "guide".
Of course, many people complained and I think the governor of the Bangli regency put a stop to this in the last year.

It's been at least 25 years since I last went to Trunyan. After the last time, I vowed never to go back there again. Tourists, travellers, backpackers, anthropologists, etc, have different agendas.
And different experiences, of course.

Roy, a formerly highly prolific poster on this forum had this to say in June 2011 on Lonely Planet's Thorntree:


Roy calls himself "ubudian" these days on Thorntree.
Bali-Java - Lonely Planet travel forum

You could also check out the following links for more information:

Trunyan - The Bali Aga of Trunyan
Trunyan Village - Bali Forum - TripAdvisor
Trunyan Village, Bali, indonesia on Vimeo

The Vimeo video isn't really about Trunyan. There are some photos taken in Trunyan - the rest are main-frame Bali. (The soundtrack is pretty awful.)

CONCLUSION

By all means go to Trunyan and see what it's all about for yourself.

A much better "Bali Aga" village, IMHO, would be Tengganan (near Candi Dasa in East Bali).
There are some little-known others, but I'm not gonna tell.

:indecisiveness:

Great story! even though your memory may be tainted by the weed.

Being that I work across the Lake and encounter the Trunyan people on a daily basis I must say that smoking weed may have been your savior. Although the Wakil Bupati (not the Bupati) is trying to encourage tourism to the village I'd say it depends on whether they are having a good day as one day is different to the rest with those folk.

We have a good friend born and breed from Trunyan and he won't take anyone there, quite embarrassed by his kinfolk but as I said to him one day, I'm quite embarrassed by by own.

If you get the boat from the Harbour at Kedisan they register your name and passport number and estimated time of return and make sue you come back, this is due to bad publicity and a few tourists complaining they felt they were never going to return. Wayan, the new Harbour poiliceman is quite proud of his new role and will even make sure your life-jacket is fastened securely.

Personally, I don't have a need to see rotting corpses but I hear the photography from that side is amazing. The 'mafia' in the area are a breed of their own and after working with them (actually against or in mutual understanding of them) they are not that bad. If you respect their culture they are very nice actually, but if you show up with an attitude and your wife or girlfriend is wearing a short skirt or shorts (please cover the knee) you've lost their respect and there is no turning back from this, it is not forgiven and you started on the wrong foot and might as well leave. I do not know how many times I have to explain to tourists (especially Australians that believe they know Bali because they have Balinese friends in Legian) that you have to cover your legs or its considered the evil of all evil and your damned from the minute you arrive.

Sometimes fear can come across as aggression and that's the reputation most of the Balinese have around Lake Batur. Look at their history and what visitors have done to them for centuries and you may understand them. The elders still go on about the Dutch coming.
 
Roy Thompson, on Thorntree, aka Ubudian, hantucengceng, Panditampu, KepalaVOC, TopengEmas, stevieskarma - the latter 2 bannings in the last week or so. Currently posting as StevesRhamnusia.
 
Interesting comments georgie
I must say that smoking weed may have been your savior
The only thing that needed to be "saved", at the time, was our loss of face for being so stupid (or green, sic) from getting there the way we did.
I guess that leaving the log at Toyabungkah and catching the "fast boat" back to Kedisan would have shown that we were not to be underestimated too much.
(Fast learners?)

The wicked weed was only one of our handicaps, then.

I vaguely recall trying to walk (fly?) from Kedisan to Toyabungkah on LSD. Jumping across a one metre "gorge" seemed like jumping across the Grand Canyon or Rift Valley.
The sand was extremely hot on my bare feet. Scary Balinese paintings kept materialising in front of my eyes in 4D, (like mirages on steroids). I managed maybe one kilometre, in more or less the right direction, before scuttling back.
(Did I just say "scuttling"? more likely crawling on all fours, like something out of a TS Eliot poem).

My first night at Pura Besakih (circa 1973). Clear skies, full Moon, about ten o'clock. Two-thirds of the way up the stairs to the main temple entrance. Four of the other Famous Five in attendance plus a local (Wayan, Made? I forget). He was "security" for that night, making sure we didn't do something wrong in the hallowed place. Whatever his real name was, and what he told us, it kind of translated to "Moon Star". We all puffed away for a while, and enjoyed the stunningly gorgeous vista of Bali seemingly spread before our feet. Moon Star enjoyed it, too (and the dope, as well.)

By around midnight, (maybe later), we finally realised where we were with nowhere to stay. Moon Star took us to his home and we spent the rest of the night there. Great, lovely and totally welcoming family. Nobody tried to sell us anything. We left the next morning, insisted on paying something for their hospitality, gave away whatever T-shirts, etc, we had.

I wish it was still like that these days.

:icon_cool:
 
Hi tintin

Looks like Roy still has that ability to piss people off with his pompous protestations about his "real Bali".
 
I wish it was still like that these days. :[/QUOTE said:
Maybe it is, it's just you don't have the drugs - he he. Having never partaken in any pharmaceutical recreationals or funny green stuff I may never know what you experienced....glad you are still here to entertain us though.
 
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