jaffa

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Bali - They Paved Paradise

Moving aside from the garbage journalism presented to us by the commercial media outlets, this is an interesting if not oft told story about Bali from the ABC. Worth a look, I reckon.

Bali - They Paved Paradise - Foreign Correspondent - ABC

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Same old, same old?
A bunch of Balinese standing around scratching their heads wondering where it all went wrong?
I particularly like the investment 'wisdom' of Pastika (Those who really love Bali, they will invest with their heart). Amusing..........
 

ronb

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I agree completely. One random quote to give the flavor
BROWN: In the late 1970’s Bali had just one five star hotel – now there are forty-one. Gendo says they’re guilty of a dreadful waste of water with each guest flushing away three times the amount used by the average Balinese family and it’s a luxury Bali can ill afford as much of the water in this dry part of the island is piped in from agricultural areas further north.
Basically they say it was different 40 years ago, and imply it was better. But back then, electricity supply did not reach far and was unreliable, many villages then had no reliable water supply and had to carry water, the roads were very poor compared with now. So there has been development, and increase in population (and who can we blame for that?), and an increase in tourism that has made Bali a relatively wealthy province of Indonesia.

The quote above mentions water being diverted from agriculture to cities - now where in the developed world have the cities grown without taking water that could have been used for agriculture. Think of Melbourne or Adelaide - or any Aussie city.
 

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The quote above mentions water being diverted from agriculture to cities - now where in the developed world have the cities grown without taking water that could have been used for agriculture. Think of Melbourne or Adelaide - or any Aussie city.

Actually, in California (USA for the uninitiated), the problem is that 90% of the water coming from the Sierra, the (poor) Colorado River, and other sources, is DIVERTED for agriculture, to the expense of the cities, in particular Los Angeles (that I know too well). The USA, like Australia are large countries that can remedy their large cities' water problems by reaching far inside their lands. By contrast, Bali is small, densely populated, and has no other sources that the 4 lakes in the mountains. Why don't the hotels provide their water by building desalination plants for their own use? This is done in many tourist areas throughout the world, and all throughout the middle east. Nowadays, this technology is old and it is not prohibitively expensive.

Of course, another easiest solution is to require that each guest(s) in each room flush the toilet only ONCE a day (or poop only once daily, a difficult thing, given the Bali Belly).:icon_rolleyes:
 
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tintin

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As for Pastika, who appeared on this fine video, he is just another big hypocrite, part of the system, selling his own Bali to the greedy investors.:mad: