Balifrog
You are really one scary redneck wacko! You need a good laxative to get rid of so much shit in your brain! Joe Rogan is just another talking head spreading more BS, to make money! You should go to the US, and try to get a job for BoZo. He loves clowns like you.[/QUOTE]Inapropriate and unacceptable language towards a fellow B.M.You are very close to join Markit on my ignore list.
Shadrach
YInapropriate and unacceptable language towards a fellow B.M.You are very close to join Markit on my ignore list.[/QUOTE]You're right, I shouldn't talk to a fellow Bowel Movement like that. We need a Deep State toilet to handle so much BSNo really, I apologize for letting myself respond in such a negative manner. It's just, When someone speaks in such an unloving way, I let it get to me, and I lower myself to that level. I should just count to ten. And take a deep breath.
Balifrog
YYou're right, I shouldn't talk to a fellow Bowel Movement like that. We need a Deep State toilet to handle so much BS[/QUOTE]Out.
Markit
Stop smoking that stuff.....[/QUOTE]I'd be soooo grateful, oh wise one, if you'd point out where my logic falls down???
Markit
Inapropriate and unacceptable language towards a fellow B.M.You are very close to join Markit on my ignore list.[/QUOTE]It seems too easy to just snipe bon mots from the sidelines but do you actually have any meaningful conclusions to add before Nursey comes to take away your keyboard/phone and change the nappy?
Rellek
And then there is this :[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/14/world/middleeast/elon-musk-iran-trump.html?smid=nytcore-android-share[/URL]BTW, seeing how E.Musk is closely involved with Trump, IMO there is a possibility that he is positionning himself for the next presidential election...Maybe Trump will groom him as his trusted successor ?Your opinion gentlemen ?[/QUOTE]No. Little Donnie Junior will be groomed for the top post eventually while the Trumps launch a bid for a dynasty. 2028 will have Donnie Junior running as VP. Donald Trump is a big fan of nepotism as everyone knows. The clash of egos between Trump and Musk will end badly for Musk. This reply may be outdated as I'm catching up and a lot has happened since November 14.
Chris A
No. Little Donnie Junior will be groomed for the top post eventually while the Trumps launch a bid for a dynasty. 2028 will have Donnie Junior running as VP. Donald Trump is a big fan of nepotism as everyone knows. The clash of egos between Trump and Musk will end badly for Musk. This reply may be outdated as I'm catching up and a lot has happened since November 14.[/QUOTE]As mentioned in reply to the original post on this subject, it's a moot point as that Musk is not born in the US. A requirement to be the president.It will be interesting to see who succeeds Trump though. Unlike the dems, the bench is very deep for a possible successor in the America First party.
Rellek
Just think, if Trump and his team are successful, perhaps there will be an accelerated populist uprising worldwide that willl beat back the insane globalists and their completely illogical climate change agenda.I remain hopeful, but hope the price is not too high.[/QUOTE]Will the conservative right ever acknowledge climate change exists or are you guys relying on Musk's plan to occupy Mars.
Rellek
As mentioned in reply to the original post on this subject, it's a moot point as that Musk is not born in the US. A requirement to be the president.It will be interesting to see who succeeds Trump though. Unlike the dems, the bench is very deep for a possible successor in the America First party.[/QUOTE]I made no mention of Musk ever being considered for President.
Shadrach
As mentioned in reply to the original post on this subject, it's a moot point as that Musk is not born in the US. A requirement to be the president.It will be interesting to see who succeeds Trump though. Unlike the dems, the bench is very deep for a possible successor in the America First party.[/QUOTE]This deep
Shadrach
Will the conservative right ever acknowledge climate change exists or are you guys relying on Musk's plan to occupy Mars.[/QUOTE]Maybe if the world is lucky, all the climate change deniers will move to Mars!
Chris A
I made no mention of Musk ever being considered for President.[/QUOTE]My bad, apologies. I guess time will tell how Musk's and Trump's relationship progresses or regresses. As I've mentioned before, I think that Trump will get behind Musk's quest for the exploration of Mars. The US and the world need something to get behind to unify a very badly divided country and world.
Chris A
Will the conservative right ever acknowledge climate change exists or are you guys relying on Musk's plan to occupy Mars.[/QUOTE]I confess I'm a proud "climate denier" as you folks like to refer to us as. Perhaps we should start another thread to enter into this discussion. My only ask is that we do the best we can to back up our premise by providing links to data as opposed to only providing a parroted narrative and empty rhetoric. [URL='https://realclimatescience.com/there-is-no-climate-crisis/#gsc.tab=0']A taste of data.[/URL]Do you really think the elite / globalists are pushing manmade climate change and the green solution(s) for altruistic reasons?
Markit
Will the conservative right ever acknowledge climate change exists or are you guys relying on Musk's plan to occupy Mars.[/QUOTE]Nobody is fighting against climate change existing but the consensus is so far away from people causing it that it can now officially (and probably will be) ignored! check out Bjorn - [URL]https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=bjorn+lomborg+climate&atb=v342-1&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DhEmTNXc0WTw[/URL]
Shadrach
HMy bad, apologies. I guess time will tell how Musk's and Trump's relationship progresses or regresses. As I've mentioned before, I think that Trump will get behind Musk's quest for the exploration of Mars. The US and the world need something to get behind to unify a very badly divided country and world.[/QUOTE]How about taking better care of the planet we live on now? Why waste billions of dollars, on a planet millions of mile away, that's uninhabitable. Everyone that likes this idea, should go there, and live in big artificially controlled environmental domes. And leave this Earth to the ones that love it,
Rellek
I confess I'm a proud "climate denier" as you folks like to refer to us as. Perhaps we should start another thread to enter into this discussion. My only ask is that we do the best we can to back up our premise by providing links to data as opposed to only providing a parroted narrative and empty rhetoric.[URL='https://realclimatescience.com/there-is-no-climate-crisis/#gsc.tab=0']A taste of data.[/URL]Do you really think the elite / globalists are pushing manmade climate change and the green solution(s) for altruistic reasons?[/QUOTE]Parroted narrative and empty rhetoric? This is the most difficult hurdle I have in bridging the chasm between my belief system and that of the conservatives. Ironic that most of the leading US climate change deniers are in Florida which is bearing the brunt of ocean temperature rise. Rick Scott, Desantis, Trump himself.Altruistic reasons? Perhaps people care enough about the world their children's children will live on."The National Academy of Sciences report, [I]Climate Change Science: An Analysis of Some Key Questions[/I], begins: "Greenhouse gases are accumulating in Earth's atmosphere as a result of human activities, causing surface air temperatures and subsurface ocean temperatures to rise"Source: Science - [URL]https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1103618[/URL]This is NOT an article published in Greenpeace..Science is arguably the most respected scientific publication in the world. It's unfortunate that climate change deniers appear to follow the familiar trope of conducting "research" on their own to come to their own conclusions on what they perceive as fact; Much like the Covid-deniers and the 2020 election-deniers. It's a brief article so please have a look and I'll look into your "a taste of data"....likely after dinner.
Chris A
Nobody is fighting against climate change existing but the consensus is so far away from people causing it that it can now officially (and probably will be) ignored!check out Bjorn - [URL='https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=bjorn+lomborg+climate&atb=v342-1&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DhEmTNXc0WTw']https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=bjorn+lomborg+climate&atb=v342-1&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEmTNXc0WTw[/URL][/QUOTE]The video or at least the segment presented is something I can relate to. Thanks Markit.I will watch the whole presentation soon, but it certainly makes sense and seems to introduce some middle ground where very little seems to exist at the moment. I will remain just a little bit skeptical as that I believe that people are beginning to wake up to the scam and that the grifters pushing the manmade climate change hoax are changing tactics and by going to a somewhat more moderate message will settle for a lower percentage of prize as that money, greed, and the continued elevation of the elite class is the end goal. FWiW, the presentation being held at Hillsdale college provides some credence for me as that it is a private college and does not accept any government money and not beholden to anyone.
Markit
I'm actually not terribly interested in discussing climate change anymore. I've spent endless hours/days reading and watching reports about it from many sides of the "story" and discussing it endlessly with anyone that will. Now I know what I know now and there isn't anything new that can come along.Anthropomorphic climate change is pure dogma and anyone that deviates from the "accepted" story line is apostate and will be burned (on a low flame).I'm old and lucid enough to still remember "the coming Ice Age" 1970s, ozone holes, acid rain and lets not forget pandemics and now we're all gonna burn up. I call "Bullshit" on all of it. There's always been some new tax that's gonna save us at the last minute. Prost, I'll drink mine.
Shadrach
Parroted narrative and empty rhetoric? This is the most difficult hurdle I have in bridging the chasm between my belief system and that of the conservatives. Ironic that most of the leading US climate change deniers are in Florida which is bearing the brunt of ocean temperature rise. Rick Scott, Desantis, Trump himself.Altruistic reasons? Perhaps people care enough about the world their children's children will live on."The National Academy of Sciences report, [I]Climate Change Science: An Analysis of Some Key Questions[/I], begins: "Greenhouse gases are accumulating in Earth's atmosphere as a result of human activities, causing surface air temperatures and subsurface ocean temperatures to rise"Source: Science - [URL]https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1103618[/URL]This is NOT an article published in Greenpeace..Science is arguably the most respected scientific publication in the world. It's unfortunate that climate change deniers appear to follow the familiar trope of conducting "research" on their own to come to their own conclusions on what they perceive as fact; Much like the Covid-deniers and the 2020 election-deniers. It's a brief article so please have a look and I'll look into your "a taste of data"....likely after dinner.[/QUOTE]Very well put! I for one, do care about leaving this world a better place, for my children's, children's, children. For 40+ years, I have lived on the land, grown my own food, made my own dairy products, built my home from timber I harvested, plowed the land with horses, used as little plastic as possible. And what I did use, I reused it until it was done with. Now I'm old enough to retire and take it easy. Thank you for providing the data from Science publication. The obvious reason those people you mentioned, deny climate change, because they want to profit off the petrochemical industry! If they said there was a climate crisis, then it would show how hypocritical they are, for supporting the oil business!
Chris A
Parroted narrative and empty rhetoric? This is the most difficult hurdle I have in bridging the chasm between my belief system and that of the conservatives. Ironic that most of the leading US climate change deniers are in Florida which is bearing the brunt of ocean temperature rise. Rick Scott, Desantis, Trump himself.Altruistic reasons? Perhaps people care enough about the world their children's children will live on."The National Academy of Sciences report, [I]Climate Change Science: An Analysis of Some Key Questions[/I], begins: "Greenhouse gases are accumulating in Earth's atmosphere as a result of human activities, causing surface air temperatures and subsurface ocean temperatures to rise"Source: Science - [URL]https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1103618[/URL]This is NOT an article published in Greenpeace..Science is arguably the most respected scientific publication in the world. It's unfortunate that climate change deniers appear to follow the familiar trope of conducting "research" on their own to come to their own conclusions on what they perceive as fact; Much like the Covid-deniers and the 2020 election-deniers. It's a brief article so please have a look and I'll look into your "a taste of data"....likely after dinner.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the article. It is little more than a statement with very little data. "We are the scientists, therefore you must believe us". I have little confidence in most institutions these days as that there is a very high potential for them to be corrupted. I actually went to the National Academy of Sciences website and took a stroll through the papers there for both Covid 19 and Climate Change and found that some articles in the appendices had a section calling out "Direct Potential Conflicts of Interests" for the authors or contributors, but many did not. Perhaps it might be worthwhile to spend some time getting into the guts of the papers published to find out who the contributors are and also who the sponsor or sponsors are for the papers / publications.Your mention of Covid 19 and the steal of the 2020 election leads me to believe that we will not find any common ground and unlikely to ever get beyond agreeing to disagree. My hope of hopes is that after Trump takes office and his team of patriots go to work and that many of the egregious violations of our civil rights over the past 4 years are exposed and the perpetrators get swift snd fair trials and are sent off to the penitentiary. Time will tell.Good day sir.
