balibule
... and here you go;
https://medium.com/matter/heres-why-public-wifi-is-a-public-health-hazard-dd5b8dcb55e6
We took a hacker to a café and, in 20 minutes, he knew where everyone else was born, what schools they attended, and the last five things they googled.
JohnnyCool
[QUOTE]Thanks JohnnyCool...but is that any different to 'say' going to Starbucks and joining their wifi router....[/QUOTE]
Depends on which wifi provider they're using. If it's [I]Speedy Instan[/I], I can't see why not. And if so, why would you use your card in the first place?
[QUOTE]Do you believe that wifi ID is going to be something we can celebrate?[/QUOTE]
Maybe one day, but that day hasn't arrived yet. The main bottleneck is still the physical undersea connection between Indonesia and the rest of the world.
Whatever the existing "pipeline" is, it probably needs to be bigger to accommodate all the internet traffic both now and in the future.
JohnnyCool
[MENTION=5182]balibule[/MENTION]:
Yes, definitely.
Public WiFi hotspots are [B]not[/B] places for sensitive transactions (like banking).
davita
I just saw one of those wifi ID outlets on Jl Kerobokan near the famous Lio corner.
It's a tent hut...some guys were sitting on stools on a bench looking into laptops/tablets.
It was hardly the wifi ID that the Telkom website made me think of. I guess that the 100mgps that's advertised is the speed to the router to the office behind the hut, thereafter it gets braked by the cable JC suggests.
spicyayam
Here is another site you can search for places:
Wificorner | Wifi Corner
Actually 5000 rp a day is a pretty good deal.
And just for comparison check out these prices in OZ for pre-paid:
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JohnnyCool
[MENTION=11670]davita[/MENTION]
[QUOTE]I just saw one of those wifi ID outlets on Jl Kerobokan near the famous Lio corner. It's a tent hut...some guys were sitting on stools on a bench looking into laptops/tablets. It was hardly the wifi ID that the Telkom website made me think of.[/QUOTE]
Actually, if there were guys sitting around using it, it was probably working at the time.
The one near Jalan Sekuta is the same. A few tent huts. However, there [I]are[/I] outlets in much fancier places (like Bali Hyatt Hotel).
If you go to the websites indonesiawifi.com, or speedyinstan.com, you can search for locations that have it (search for "Denpasar").
I [I][B]don't[/B][/I] think that the advertised "up to 100 Mbps" is the speed from the office to the huts. That's way too skeptical, even for me.
I got a "stable" 15 Mbps (in peak time) which is pretty darned good (for here, and for 50 cents).
I bought two more cards today to test further, [I]maybe[/I] later tonight, after I deliver a black forest cake my wife made to a close Balinese family.
spicyayam
Did you try registering:
http://reg.indihome.co.id/
We had a technician come yesterday and he explained there were still some issues but they were working on them. I have to agree, it seems much more stable now.
If you have the thick cable running underneath the telephone line, I can't see why you can't get it connected. I am sure they are probably overloaded now with applications and might be trying to get it to businesses like hotels and cafes first.
davita
Thanks JC and Spicy but I'm not looking for hotspots but very happy that many people can access the internet from those hotspots for that cheap price ....:eagerness:
Our conversation started when I thought Spicy was on to a good thing having fibre-optic (F/O) internet to his house. I saw they were installing a F/O cable across my street and hoped that was what wifi ID would give me...my bad....as it seems I'm wrong.
My Speedy comes in on a telephone line and everyday is at a different speed....yesterday was so slow it couldn't connect with any browser...today it's OK. I've just done speed tests around the world and the average download is 2.5 Mbps.
I'd really like a better product but it seems competition in this area is limited....is there a better internet access available in Bali?
I had to smile at Markit's observation about dial-up. Over 15+ years ago, in USA/Canada with dial-up, I got a faster, better and more reliable internet than today in Bali.
davita
Just a little apropos story for those interested.....
Last summer my wife and I went on an Alaskan cruise (Vancouver-Vancouver) with 3 stops in Alaska. It was on Holland American (Noordam) and most of the service crew were Indonesian and, in particular, Balinese.
The brochure said internet was available on the ship but didn't explain that to be connected cost more than the friggin ship was worth.
My wife became very popular with the crew, obviously, so she asked how did they manage to connect with their families. They said 'IBU...follow us when we stop and we'll show you'. That's when we found every port has an industry for ship crews to internet/skype connect.
Later at dinner I asked our waiter, whom I'd seen in one of the internet 'factories', if he'd had a good connection..."Oh! yes Sir, perfect...I talk to my family for an hour". I then said that in Bali we didn't have good internet and he laughed, "Telkom Sir, tidak bagus...piece of ****"...he poured another glass of fine wine and I was comforted with his answer....it isn't only me!
JohnnyCool
Something doesn't sound right to me, davita.
Many things [I]might[/I] be the problem. Your actual modem (too old?), the splitter could need replacing (simple to do), the telephone line, malware/virus issues, the cable from the modem to the computer (replace it), non-optimal settings in your modem and/or internet settings (DNS settings),Telkom Sepeda was having a bad day, etc.
There are many competitive "services" available. Depends where you live. Most are wi-fi solutions, which usually entail buying/renting and setting-up a tower (not cheap).
Cable options are probably much better, if you can get one (I'm still waiting).
[QUOTE]I've just done speed tests around the world and the average download is 2.5 Mbps[/QUOTE]
That's not [I]too[/I] bad, really. Your "problems" might have something to do with what I mentioned above.
[QUOTE]Over 15+ years ago, in USA/Canada with dial-up, I got a faster, better and more reliable internet than today in Bali.[/QUOTE]
If you truly believe that, there is [B]definitely[/B] something wrong in your system.
In the glory days of 56K modems, one would be lucky to get 40-45K on a good day. Your miserable 2.5 Mbps is at least 50 times faster than that.
I forget where you live. Two suggestions:
1) Get Speedy to check out what's up with your connection (they might have it linked to a crummy node - meaning they're ripping you off)
2) Buy me a bottle of Irish whiskey and I'll come to your house and try to clean-up your system for you.
If I can't improve things, I'll leave you at least half the bottle. (I don't drink on the job, apart from a beer or two).
Before that, do step 1 first.
:beaten:
davita
Spicy...thanks for the link. My Indonesian sux so I'll wait for my wife's return from JKT tomorrow to register...maybe then she can get an inkling of the new cable's purpose.
JC thanks for the advice....the router/modem is a speedy TPLink and only a few months old. Telkom charged me Rp460,000 for it. My problem is that it's erratic. Sometimes the internet is fine, like now, but other times it's so slow URLs time-out before connecting. Also, every 10 minutes or so the signal becomes limited and I have to disconnect and reconnect to stay on-line. This is the same on all 3 computers (2 laptops. 1 desktop) and my wife's iphone (she is returning tomorrow with a new iphone6....so we'll see)
Rather than jump to another (expensive) provider I thought I'd wait to see if this fibre-optic cable might mean a new access.... but since they put the cable there I haven't seen anyone.
However, your advice has inspired me to think....the TPlink is also connected to my CCTV system (so I can see what the cameras see wherever I have internet) but I never use it. Ive disconnected that as it may be interfering, and rebooted....I'll check it out.
edit: The speed is good today but it still drops out every so often and I have to re-connect...which it does instantly. Any idea why?
davita
I disconnected the CCTV system yesterday and now all looks good...thanks for the idea JC. My all-in-one has Win 8.1 but the laptops are Win 7. If my trouble re-appears I'll go thru' the recommendations you made.
Agree with you on 'grimefighter'...I paid Rp120,000 for a year and after downloading my computer went blank. I had to mess around with set-up to get back to normal. Don't recommend Avast grimefighter nor their service support. I now use Malwarebytes but looks like my free trial is over and they want to charge me....any recommendations?
davita
JohnnyCool wrotedavita. Seems like your CCTV [I][B]was[/B][/I] screwing your network up.
I don't understand why you were using it in the first place if you weren't using it. Huh.
Bragging Rights...:icon_e_biggrin:
I told my driver and maid that I could spy everything, from anywhere.....so they think, and have told everyone else, that the cameras are connected directly to Kerobokan Jail...:devilish:
JohnnyCool
davita. What operating system are you using? If it's Windows, which version, e.g., Windows 7 Home, Windows 7 Pro?
You mentioned a CCTV connected to your system. Many electrical devices can cause interference such as power adaptors, microwave ovens, TVs, power strips, washing machines, etc.
Disconnect that CCTV and see if it's the culprit.
Modem/routers can lose the plot. Turn it off, unplug the power adaptor, leave it off for a minute, and reboot the computer. Re-connect the modem and turn it back on, then remain patient until it's (hopefully) working again.
That will usually "fix" your connection.
In addition, (actually one of the first steps after eliminating faulty cables, devices, phone-line filter), requires knowing how to use the Command prompt (cmd.exe) in Windows.
With the appropriate commands, we can find out a lot of stuff about what's going on in the network. Things such as whether it's working properly (ping test), where the bottlenecks are (trace route),
flush out the DNS, and much more.
Sometimes the router has to be re-set back to its factory default (probably best left to Telkom unless you know what you're doing).
Or, try a different one if you have one lying around (in case your current one is faulty).
In the wi-fi section of your network, it's possible that the channel it's on is being shared by too many people near you. Switching to a less congested one can do wonders.
The following link gives a nice overview of dealing with intermittent internet dropping out issues (and steps to take).
12 Tips for Troubleshooting Your Internet Connection - 1. My New Router Won't Connect to the Internet - Slideshow from PCMag.com
Also, I've read that quite a few people have had problems with Avast's "grimefighter".
Have "fun".
JohnnyCool
davita. Seems like your CCTV [I][B]was[/B][/I] screwing your network up.
I don't understand why you were using it in the first place if you weren't using it. Huh.
Malwarebytes is excellent, but it's not an antivirus program. If you didn't install the free version, you might have the full deal (a trial version that expires).
Even the free version pops up with a choice to install the full one. That's OK - when the trial is over, it reverts to the free one (nothing to pay).
Whenever installing software, be careful what you click and try to install it from the vendor's site. [B]Not[/B] places like CNet.
There are too many even "reputable" sites these days that have joined the bandwagon of bundling rubbish with the download.
There is a site which cuts all the crap for you automatically. Works well, but doesn't have everything you might want to install. It's free and pretty good (IMHO).
Check it out at ninite.com. (You pick the application and download the installer - then run it. After it's finished you can delete it.)
Clapping hands.
:applause:
ronb
I'm glad things are improving and also that you keep us up-to-date with progress.
My Speedy has really tanked lately...it keeps dropping out and I can quickly sign ON again but the worst feature is that it cannot search...I sometimes get a search to work but sometimes not. This occurs whether I use AOL search, Internet Explorer, Chrome, Yahoo, Firefox...none of these can find the URL of the website I'm looking for and I'm told it's because of the host server. I'm not sure what that means but presume it must be Speedy as that's the only common feature (I have tried 2 extra laptops....so not my computer).
Any one else have this issue or can advise...I was waiting to see if this Fibre-optic cable opposite my villa was developing but ...nothing's happened...:mad:
A very late response to this. At that time we were seeing real problems with Speedy. Many sites were just timing out with unhelpful messages like "no response" or "empty response" or whatever. But if I had a movie downloading it would come at full speed. And like with you it came good a few days later and has been OK ever since.
I spent time playing and trying to understand. The sites I had most trouble with were ones with plenty of advertising like where I get my crosswords, sudokus, etc. Also some problems with Internet banking sites. But by and large gmail and Facebook kept working.
It was not a DNS problem because if (for a crossword) I was going to usatoday.com it would connect to the site (which means DNS had successfully provided the IP number for usatoday.com) but then it got stuck So my guess is that it was to do with Teklom Indonesia's relationships with other Internet services around the world. This is referred to as peering - see
Peering - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. If my guess is correct then the problem would be the same for the copper wire service (Speedy) the fibre service (Indihome) and anything else Telkom does like wifi.id.
At the time when Telkom had this problem, if I used the Telkomsel service on my phone - the problem was not there - so it was just Telkom.
I hope it doesn't happen again.
spicyayam
I have seen positive comments about CBN on Facebook. They seem to be a little more expensive than what you get with Telkom, but their service and support are probably better.
davita
Bump this thread a little...my wife went to Telkom to enquire about Fiber-optic wifi but was told it wasn't yet available in Kerobokan and when it was a salesman would come to us.
I was walking in the neighborhood and noticed a bunch of guys installing fiber-optic cable so asked if they were Telkom. They said they were CBN Fiber Broadband...a different company.
CBN Internet
They said that the cable opposite my house was NOT Telkom but belonged to them...so a salesman came to my house and presented CBN's agreement.
Their lowest (up to) 5 MBPS unlimited package costs Rp1 Juta for set-up and RP 800,000 monthly plus 10% tax. The first 25 metres of cable was free, as was the modem, but an extra Rp 50,000/month for an optional interior wifi router.
Anybody have any info on this Company or comment on pricing?
Tudeo
[b]Free internet-tv scam[/b]
Anybody know of a good alternative for Telkom's Speedy in West-Denpasar?
Our Speedy and phoneline are working fine and the price was(/is still) affordable, about 420k for 2Mb/s. But now it seems someone did a dirty trick on us by offering a year *free* trial internet-tv, where we today found out they just changed our package and we're paying for this low quality tv-sh*t..
It's not so much the extra money, but I really hate these dirty tricks. Also it seems there is no real protection for consumers against these scams, when complaining u just run into the BS-stories of the helpdesk.
So if possible I want to change to another internet provider.
davita
[MENTION=16515]Tudeo[/MENTION] #80
The same happened to me with Speedy some months back. The internet TV was OK but it interfered with internet such as it was useless. I hade them remove everything and they still tried to charge us. Fortunately my Indonesian wife learned to have 'attitude' when living in N. America.... so she sorted them out.:beaten:
Co-incidentally, only 30 mins ago, we signed with CBN for fiber-optic internet (5 mbps) which will be installed in 10 days or so. I'll post the results when available.
If interested sms Dwi Setiyanto ( Account Exec) (62-817) 972 6781 or email [email]dwi.setiyanto@cbn.co.id[/email] and he will visit you and explain its availability, options, price etc..... nice young polite man speaks good English.
