Dyah
Hola Begonia ...
i hope the best for you and your foundation ...
Sure that Markit or the other can bring usefull material with in bagage in their next travel to Bali :wink: .
Saludos y besos también,
Dyah
PS: In Indonesia i like rainy season too... but here... :evil: i hate this season!
mimpimanis
I dont know about vitamin pills etc but what I do know is medication for Martin that I buy direct at the apotik costs a fraction of the price of what is does when the doctor prescribes and supplies it. His repeat prescriptions like ventolin I keep a supply that I buy myself as I find it much cheaper. Maybe prenatal pills are the same maybe not.
But I too find it hard to beleive they wil cost more in Bali than in UK.
Not medication but just an example..... my contact lenses which are [b]made in UK [/b]cost $40 in Uk for a one month supply. In Bali they cost $12 for three month supply. Higher rents, rates, taxes, salaries etc for the wholesaler and retaiIer, I assume go to make up the UK cost.
Sumatra
How cold does it get in the Balinese mountains? One doesn't usually associate Bali with cold weather.
In Sumatra, while on the mountain in Brastagi, my in-laws were literally dying from exposure to what they considered to be cold. I was walking around in a tank top and found the temperatures to be pleasantly mild, when compared to downtown Medan or Brandan.
The Don 8)
Sumatra
Hi Mimpi,
You have asthma? How is the climate for allergies and asthmatic conditions? In the US I can't even be in the same room as a cat but at the in-laws house in Brandan the house cats hang all over me, with zero ill-effects. Strange isn't it?
The Don :?
Roy
And one more point about prenatals…speaking only from the experiences told to us by those in the states that bring them to us.
In the US, many pharmacies are required to remove from stock those vitamins which are close, but not yet at, their expiration date. One enterprising regular from North Carolina is able to get those for free from his local pharmacy when he travels over here. Of course, this doesn't always work out, but it has several times in the past.
Bert Vierstra
I didn't do anything. But Firefox has a built in spellchecker
Roy
[quote]“How cold does it get in the Balinese mountains?"[/quote]
Cold enough for early morning frost especially on the windshield when driving. You’ll see folks on motor bikes wearing heavy coats…sometimes more than one. They kind of look like the Michelin man from behind as their coats fill up with wind.
Regarding prenatal vitamins…Mimpi wrote:
[quote]“Maybe prenatal pills are the same maybe not. But I too find it hard to beleive they wil cost more in Bali than in UK.”[/quote]
As for the cost of prenatal vitamins here in Bali, the best price Eri could ever find is Rp 200,000 for 60 tablets. In the states, the folks that bring them over to us usually pay in the rage of $9.00 per 100 tablets, (Rite Aid prenatal with folic acid). Or, in other words, they are 3 time more expensive in Bali than in the US.
Of course, I have no idea how much they cost in the UK.
mimpimanis
Hi Don
No its not me with Asthma but my son Martin, 2 years old. Well unofficially he has it. As then doctor has said when he is on his 4th attack then it gets classes as asthma. He has only had three attacks since we switched to her but he has had more before her and also when we have been away & I have put him on the nebuliser myself and not seen any doctor. I guess next attack and he has it officially. We have a cats at home in Lombok and he seems fine with them however one of his attacks started after playing with a cat in a restaurant, so maybe he has some kind of immunity to ours. Peanuts triggered the worse attack of all so now have to make sure nobody gives him any.
Bert have you put a spell checker on here or is it because I am on a different computer??? Just as well as I am not used to a full sized keyboard and am making lots of typos. :D
mimpimanis
At the house in Lombok we have Indonesian cats but in Bali none. We do however have a shih tzu which I believe is also considered good for allergy sufferers. He and Marty are very close and we dont ever seem to have had an episode triggered by him. (thankfully!)
Sumatra
[b]Thanks Roy,[/b]
I'll remember to bring along my leather jacket for mountain travel. Are the vehicles for sale in the mountainous areas of Bali sold with a heater? How's the pollution level? When visiting Brastagi the pollution was absolutely horrendous, I think it was worse than L.A., damned shame too because it was so beautiful.
[b]Mimpi,[/b]
At your home, do you have domestic Indonesian cats? As I recall, that made all the difference with me. Domestic North American and European cats possess a double coat consisting of a dense close lying downy coat, covered with an outer coat of dense flat lying fur, just think of the shingles on a roof. Domestic Indonesian cats only have a thin single coat, a climactic adaptation.
It's that downy half of the coat right next to the skin that causes all of the allergenic problems, it's packed with a host of bacterium, dust mites, flea wastes....etc. Whenever the cat is touched, shakes or, grooms itself, all of this disgusting stuff hitches a ride on dander and floats away, right into the nasal passages of the unsuspecting allergy sufferer.
All cats have the nauseating habit of licking every inch of themselves after eating, this introduces even more filthy bacteria to the toxic soup, the cats I've seen aren't very particular about what they feast upon either. Even a single coated cat can prove to be problematic sometimes because of this self-grooming instinct.
Chronic usage of albuterol inhalers can often lead to cardiac ailments and this really sucks for the person who happens to be suffocating to death on a regular basis. My dad can't even be in the same room as a cat, let alone touch them and he avoids them like the plague. You might want to consider a Yorkie or a poodle, they only have a single coat and are a great option for the person with asthsma/allergies who wants a pet. Poodles come in a variety of sizes and colors and dogs almost never lick themselves all over, unless they're afflicted with some sort of pathogenic neurosis.
The Don :)
Sanurian
For [b]begonia[/b]
I'm not sure, but [b]are[/b] you back in Bali?
Some time ago you approached me for help with your organisation's website, via a PM in this forum...I now note, with some dismay, that you never provided myself and another person with the material we requested of you.
Both of us went to some considerable trouble to help [b]KKF[/b], (in the background). I was going to donate a paid-for web server for your cause. And so on. No word from you.
It's like this. If you really [b]didn't[/b] want "help" in the first place, why did you ask? And if everything is "OK" now, why didn't you let us know? Thank you for nothing, not even an update.
Whilst I hope your son is well now, I wish you'd extended us a little bit of common courtesy in this matter. Our time is valuable, too.
And BTW...the [i]KKF[/i] website [b]still [/b]doesn't cut it (IMHO).
:cry:
Sumatra
Kadek,
True. The saliva does stick to the fur and a cat's extremely rough tongue causes penetration into the dander, which dries up, flakes off and becomes airborne. I'd forgotten about the protein but it just adds to the nasty floating mix.
A cat's claw's are really putrid. I'm sure you've heard of cat scratch fever. Not as deadly as the mouth and claws of a Komodo dragon but I've treated some people who've had quite terrible reactions to cat scratch and dander.
I've found most cats to be independent and unpredictable in character. If I had small children I probably wouldn't want one residing in my home.
The Don
Bert Vierstra
As for the cost of prenatal vitamins here in Bali, the best price Eri could ever find is Rp 200,000 for 60 tablets. In the states, the folks that bring them over to us usually pay in the rage of $9.00 per 100 tablets, (Rite Aid prenatal with folic acid). Or, in other words, they are 3 time more expensive in Bali than in the US.
Just looking into this vitamin things.
In Bali you can get the "Supravit" things. Made by Erela.
Look here:
http://www.erela.co.id/vitamin%20&%20mineral.htm (Look for Supravit)
Picture:
http://www.erela.co.id/Exhibits/supravit.htm
(Please not the dose is reported for two tablets)
I just bought a bottle with 60 tablets, costs 13.000 rupiah
Also contains Folic Acid, and with two tablets you have the recommended dose for pregnancies.
Kadek
[quote=Sumatra][b]
It's that downy half of the coat right next to the skin that causes all of the allergenic problems, it's packed with a host of bacterium, dust mites, flea wastes....etc. Whenever the cat is touched, shakes or, grooms itself, all of this disgusting stuff hitches a ride on dander and floats away, right into the nasal passages of the unsuspecting allergy sufferer.
All cats have the nauseating habit of licking every inch of themselves after eating, this introduces even more filthy bacteria to the toxic soup, the cats I've seen aren't very particular about what they feast upon either. Even a single coated cat can prove to be problematic sometimes because of this self-grooming instinct.
[/quote]
Aren't most allergic reactions in people caused by the cat's saliva (some protein produced by the cat) instead of the actual fur itself and how dirty the fur might be due to external factors? Cats of differing breeds produce differing levels of this protein and thus cause varying levels of allergic reaction in people. Of course the saliva sticks to the fur and thus carried the allergic property of the saliva.
I think cats are very clean animals as compared to dogs.
Regards
Kadek
tintin
Here are my three filthy, venomous, ravenous cats, each with lots of proteins flying all around the house, and of course, putrid claws. Mimi (white) is a Turkish Angora (this was the Prophet Mohammed's cat); Shiva, a classic tabby, and Socrates, an orange tabby, weighing in at 17 pounds. Mimi is the one who sent me to the hospital twice…[attachment=0:3q8cx33l]DSCF4678 (Large).JPG[/attachment:3q8cx33l]
Roy
Beautiful cats! I especially like Mimi. Each of them is sitting in perfectly proud posture too!
My late mom was a cat lady all her life, so there were always cats around our house, much to the dismay of my late dad.
As you surely know Daniel, the Balinese are even more ambivalent about cats then they are dogs…especially among the women, who when pregnant, avoid getting close to cats at all costs.
Eri has caught me putting out small bowls of susu for a family of cats that live “on the other side of the wall” and she really doesn’t like it. But, I just can’t sleep whenever hearing those plaintive “meeues” coming in from outside our bedroom door!
Thanks for sharing! Cheers!
BaliLife
Not that I don't like cats, but they just don't have the character dogs do.. They seem to be more independent creatures.. They are mighty cute..
Ct
gtrken
Dogs have masters
Cats have servants.... :D
Cheers
Ken
Markit
See, you go away for a few days and the whole fecking thread goes to hell.
Just a short reminder: What should people bring with them when they have rest baggage to fill that will do the people here some good. [b]THATS ALL!![/b]
[b]Not fecking cats[/b]
[size=7]Not Roy's frosted toes [/size]
[size=7]Not Sanurian's injured self esteem[/size]
You people are a real marketing disaster for the cause of expats :(
You got something to say - [size=7]start your own thread![/size] PM me I'll walk you thru it :evil:
mimpimanis
The thread meanders and takes its own course, just like a real conversation.
You are already here so it makes little difference to continue the topic about what you can add to your luggage and though you started the thread it doesn't BELONG to you! :roll:
