balinews
Indonesia is bracing for its Covid-19 outbreak to get worse after a near-vertical climb in cases, a senior minister said on Thursday, warning that infections had spread faster than anticipated due to the more virulent delta variant.The world's fourth most populous country is struggling to slow virus transmission even after imposing its toughest mobility curbs so far.Wednesday's tally of more than 54,000 cases was the latest of many peaks in the past month, and up more than tenfold on the number of infections at the start of June.In a streamed news conference, senior minister Luhut Pandjaitan said daily Covid-19 cases could still climb as the Delta variant, first identified in India, has a two-to three-week incubation period."We're already in our worst-case scenario," Luhut said. "If we're talking about 60,000 (cases a day) or slightly more than that, we're okay. We are hoping not for 100,000, but even if we get there, we are preparing for that," he added.[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/15/indonesia-is-bracing-for-worsening-covid-outbreak-as-cases-spike.html[/URL]
cosmos
Can anyone tell me where to get the vaccine,70 years old retired in bali for three years and have a kitas, been to five hospitals and the airport and all keep telling me to go to the next one, , can anyone jelp
britoo
Cosmos,check out the Bali Covid 19 facebook page - sorry dont have a link but just google bali covid 19 facebook and it will probably be the first in the list. If you access it from a local IP address you dont need a facebook account to access it.Its administered by Jackie Pomeroy. Expand the daily update post and read down a bit to the section on vaccinations.It has a really comprehensive list of where vaccinations are available and what the procedure for registration is along with eligibility. With KITAS you should be eligible.You could also consider contacting your Banjar / Kelian if they are a proactive bunch as they should be directly involved in the local rollout in your area and should know how to get you sorted. Depends if they are the helpful types or not really.Hope this helps.
PERtoDPS
As much as I dislike Facebook her page is actually really useful as she translates a lot of the official Indonesia stuff to English.[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.facebook.com/groups/BaliCovid/[/URL]if you don't have facebook and nobody else replies with it write back I will copy and paste a few of locations, refraining in interest of not spamming up the forum.
spicyayam
Can anyone tell me where to get the vaccine,70 years old retired in bali for three years and have a kitas, been to five hospitals and the airport and all keep telling me to go to the next one, , can anyone jelp[/QUOTE]Here is a list from the Bali Covid-19 FB group:DENPASAR, WANTILAN DPRD BALI. This post (in Renon) operates daily from 08:00, was intended for non-Bali WNI but is apparently vaccinating all Indonesian citizens. Arrive very early. UDAYANA ARMY HOSPITAL (RSAD Udayana) (near Tiara Dewata) is offering vaccinations for family of Police and military, mornings only, quota 300 doses daily. LANUD BASE OPS, the Air Force operations facility at Ngurah Rai Airport. 7-30 July, 08:00-15:00 daily, for families of Police and military. BALI MANDARA Hospital on the ByPass is vaccinating those aged 18+, Sinovac and AZ available, sign up using the SpeedID app. Appointments are generally 1-2 days in advance, bookings open around 11 pm every night. They will not vaccinate B211 visa-holders but ARE accepting KITAS/KITAP (confirmed) with an appointment. Arrive early, before 7:30 on the day of your appointment. Instructions for installing and using SpeedID are here (thanks to our anonymous member): [URL='https://drive.google.com/file/d/1V9y2KX-mZFL0uw8ALrVQwwQtQR3QI31N/view?usp=sharing&fbclid=IwAR1Mic_kFwok7nqHS4E1gssY4x2QGXfLrQbmDsxBwtsbJrUF90i-8q8AbK8']https://drive.google.com/.../1V9y2KX.../view...[/URL] SANGLAH HOSPITAL. M-S 9-12. Bali KTP or Surat Domisili required. Registration for those 18+ is through this link: [URL='http://182.23.5.146:9024/registrasivaksin/?fbclid=IwAR0tMVtVwCjcqZdHysM4hL_qTF2IRjwVKCbz2UpQTlUdGKPpvIKjZkINx68']http://182.23.5.146:9024/registrasivaksin/[/URL] SANJIWANI HOSPITAL, GIANYAR is offering second doses only, and only beginning 23 July. POLRES GIANYAR is holding mass vaccinations in the morning through 20 July. There were already 300+ people gathered by 07:30 this morning. SILOAM is reportedly only offering only second doses at their Kuta and Lippo Mall locations. BALI ROYAL HOSPITAL (BROS) is offering first and second doses. M-F 9-12, 100 per day only. Bali KTP or Surat Domisili with NIK required. If you have comorbidities, you must bring a permission letter from a doctor. Registrations will open July 18 on SpeedID. BALIMED HOSPITAL. M-F 12:00-14:00. KTP or KITAS/KITAP with NIK. Register in the BIMA app owned by Balimed Hospital. PURI RAHARJA HOSPITAL. M-S from 07:30. For those 18+ with Bali KTP or Surat Domisili, KITAS/NIK required for foreigners. On-site registration. AIRPORT. Vaccinations are being offered at Ngurah Rai Airport, Domestic Arrivals area 09:00-15:00, for Indonesian citizens holding tickets. UDAYANA HOSPITAL on the Bukit is offering first and second doses for those 18+. Members with KITAS and NIK have received first vaccinations as walk-ins. BULELENG is holding mass vaccinations throughout the regency - check with your Klian Banjar and nearest Puskesmas for local schedules. Any resident of Buleleng District can report directly to the Health Department office on Jl. Veteran, Kendran, Kec. Buleleng. TABANAN. RSUD Tabanan and Bakti Rahayu Hospital will vaccinate all residents of Tabanan 18+. Bring your ID card, mornings 8-12 (likely M-F). Vaccinations are also offered at 20 Puskesmas. PMI (Indonesian migrant workers). Vaccinations for Indonesian seamen are available to any who need one to travel abroad for their jobs at Puri Jepun in Denpasar. WNI IN BALI WITH A NON-BALI KTP. There is a vaccination post set up at the Wantilan at the DPRD in Denpasar. Daily (for now), first vaccinations at 08:00 but get there early, there's a quota. No preregistration. Also, the vaccinations organized by Lanud Base Ops at the airport welcome all Indonesian citizens. 7-30 July, starting at 08:00, recommended to arrive approx. 06:00. JAKARTA. A full list of vaccination locations for those 18+ is here: [URL='https://health.detik.com/berita-detikhealth/d-5598881/khusus-dki-daftar-lokasi-vaksin-corona-untuk-18-tahun-ke-atas?fbclid=IwAR2HRUOish3N_5hvJ_Vt1ThR464mvTZQt3VGyxiHF36oogX_aMtk-7JdyAg']https://health.detik.com/.../khusus-dki-daftar-lokasi...[/URL] LOMBOK. The RSUD NTB in Mataram offers vaccinations to Indonesian citizens with KTP and KITAS/KITAP holders aged 12+ (no B211 visa holders as of now). Choice of Sinovac or AstraZeneca, although under 18 get Sinovac only. The open at 06:00, get there early.
JackStraw
Yeah it's spiking all right. Nearly everyone in my circle is getting the virus now. 90% of them completely symptomless or were able to beat it on their own in 48 hours. The other 10%, not so lucky. RIP friends :(
Balifrog
AYeah it's spiking all right. Nearly everyone in my circle is getting the virus now. 90% of them completely symptomless or were able to beat it on their own in 48 hours. The other 10%, not so lucky. RIP friends :([/QUOTE] Bit scary...Lucky nobody in our environment mentioned it.And we continue our lifes as usual.Hop, another whisky !
JackStraw
ABit scary...Lucky nobody in our environment mentioned it.And we continue our lifes as usual.Hop, another whisky ![/QUOTE]Yes, quite scary indeed. The interesting part is all my friends that got it were already vaccinated with 1st jab, waiting for the 2nd. Well, one of the ones that died didn't have a vaccine at all. Super strange how this virus affects everyone differently.
Balifrog
Yes, quite scary indeed[/QUOTE]Remember Churchill.... "there is nothing to fear but fear itself"So, let's stop panic and look at this with a logical, strategical view.Hop, last whisky for today !
Markit
Ok we've all become doctors of virology and epidemiology (I actually spelled that correctly!) but there's really only one thing I don't understand that you doctors can possibly help with: Why is it that this is the only virus I've heard about that supposedly affects children very little, if at all? Polio, colds, flu, hepatitis, AIDS, Ebola, etc. etc. ALL are not respecters of age BUT suddenly here we have Covid 19 that is different. Why?
JackStraw
Ok we've all become doctors of virology and epidemiology (I actually spelled that correctly!) but there's really only one thing I don't understand that you doctors can possibly help with:Why is it that this is the only virus I've heard about that supposedly affects children very little, if at all?Polio, colds, flu, hepatitis, AIDS, Ebola, etc. etc. ALL are not respecters of age BUT suddenly here we have Covid 19 that is different.Why?[/QUOTE]I don't know the answer to your question but this reminds me of a funny sight I saw the other day. I was grabbing takeaway from my favorite warung the which happens to be across the street from a school. Because of PPKM, school isn't in session, yet there were hundreds of children lined up in uniform. I suddenly realized it was for mass vaccinations. It was quite a sight seeing one line of children on the way into door #1, nervously laughing and talking to each other and then seeing the line of sad, scared children with bandages on their arms coming out of door #2, running into the arms of their waiting parents. What a time to be alive eh?
Markit
If we can believe all the scientists those kids are more (statistically) endangered by the vaccination than they are by Corona. Everyone knows this too but still the powers that be are pushing ahead with child vaccinations. Luckily I don't have any children and my granddaughter is only one.
PERtoDPS
[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-56990253[/URL] how accurate you think that stats are?
John M
Can anyone tell me where to get the vaccine,70 years old retired in bali for three years and have a kitas, been to five hospitals and the airport and all keep telling me to go to the next one, , can anyone jelp[/QUOTE]The Bali Mandara is accepting walk-ins for elderly foreigners (60+) with just a KITAS. I tried using the SpeedID app but it only allows bookings up to 48 hours in advance and was always booked out so I phoned the hospital and they told me that the elderly can just turn up. On July the 14th I got to the vaccination clinic at 8:00am for opening, told the guy handing out numbered tickets (for the previous day's unfinished vaccinations) that I was an elderly foreigner with no app booking and was given a numbered ticket. Everyone has to wait outside until their number is called (numbers were called in groups of four) and I, being number 11, was inside by 8:45 with the first check at the desk being my KITAS and filling in a small slip with my name, address and phone number. There followed a series of ID and vaccination history checks at several numbered desks and the one that checked my blood pressure did ask if I had an Indonesian ID number, which I did have, but I think it's for the record rather than being compulsory. The whole procedure was very well managed and after the vaccination, which was totally painless, I had to go to another desk to the right of the door where they took my papers and then I waited about half an hour before getting called to receive my certificate with my total arrival to departure taking 90 minutes. I believe that foreigners don't get emailed an electronic certificate with a QR code so take good care of it because the world is rapidly moving towards a "No vaccine - no fly" policy. If you're Australian you can take your certificate to a registered vaccination clinic in Australia (should you ever get back again) and the clinic can check the authenticity of the certificate and enter it into your Australian permanent vaccination record.
PERtoDPS
The Bali Mandara is accepting walk-ins for elderly foreigners (60+) with just a KITAS. I tried using the SpeedID app but it only allows bookings up to 48 hours in advance and was always booked out so I phoned the hospital and they told me that the elderly can just turn up. On July the 14th I got to the vaccination clinic at 8:00am for opening, told the guy handing out numbered tickets (for the previous day's unfinished vaccinations) that I was an elderly foreigner with no app booking and was given a numbered ticket. Everyone has to wait outside until their number is called (numbers were called in groups of four) and I, being number 11, was inside by 8:45 with the first check at the desk being my KITAS and filling in a small slip with my name, address and phone number. There followed a series of ID and vaccination history checks at several numbered desks and the one that checked my blood pressure did ask if I had an Indonesian ID number, which I did have, but I think it's for the record rather than being compulsory. The whole procedure was very well managed and after the vaccination, which was totally painless, I had to go to another desk to the right of the door where they took my papers and then I waited about half an hour before getting called to receive my certificate with my total arrival to departure taking 90 minutes. I believe that foreigners don't get emailed an electronic certificate with a QR code so take good care of it because the world is rapidly moving towards a "No vaccine - no fly" policy. If you're Australian you can take your certificate to a registered vaccination clinic in Australia (should you ever get back again) and the clinic can check the authenticity of the certificate and enter it into your Australian permanent vaccination record.[/QUOTE]Hi there, great detailed report. Just wanted to make a few a corrections here as I've been to this hospital and you definitely DO require a NIK number (the ID number or they will not vaccinate you).As it currently stands you can still exit Indonesia and have 12 hours to go from Denpasar to the airport in Jakarta (contained within the airport) and be out the country unvaccinated, but this may well change the with the direction this country is moving in I do agree. Obviously this correct at the time of this post, check it out for yourself before you fly if it's changed.There are also medical grounds which you can get a letter from Dr/Hospital to exempt you from vaccination for serious medical conditions can be found here specific to Sinovac vaccine (unsure on AZ at this stage): [URL]https://setkab.go.id/en/govt-unveils-criteria-for-people-unable-to-receive-sinovacs-vaccine/[/URL]. The larger hospitals can issue these if you find yourself needing one. You now require the either proof of vaccination or an exemption letter to travel to many villages.
Mark
There are also medical grounds which you can get a letter from Dr/Hospital to exempt you from vaccination for serious medical conditions can be found here specific to Sinovac vaccine (unsure on AZ at this stage): [URL]https://setkab.go.id/en/govt-unveils-criteria-for-people-unable-to-receive-sinovacs-vaccine/[/URL]. The larger hospitals can issue these if you find yourself needing one. You now require the either proof of vaccination or an exemption letter to travel to many villages.[/QUOTE]This link references a letter from January 2021, and I think that some of this information is out of date and has been superseded, as the government is now giving Sinovac to children 12 years old and above. Also, the BP numbers are not being enforced at 140/90 (I think it's now 160/110 or something like that) and injections [U]are[/U] being given to those who already had Covid... It seems that medical exemptions are only available by a letter from a specialist doctor (not a GP), stating that the vaccine is contraindicated due to a specific medical condition (some of which may be on the list in the link above, but you'd need to first check with a specialist doctor)..
Juggler
Hi there, great detailed report. Just wanted to make a few a corrections here as I've been to this hospital and you definitely DO require a NIK number (the ID number or they will not vaccinate you).umm not true.I got my first jab at rsbm and they asked for the nik. I dont have one and it didnt matter. they only need the nik to register the shots on the gov data base. with no nik you just get a hard copy letter stating the jab was done
Juggler
Why is it that this is the only virus I've heard about that supposedly affects children very little, if at all?Because it was engineered in a lab to reduce the pension bills of the govermnets.Why?[/QUOTE]
PERtoDPS
This link references a letter from January 2021, and I think that some of this information is out of date and has been superseded, as the government is now giving Sinovac to children 12 years old and above. Also, the BP numbers are not being enforced at 140/90 (I think it's now 160/110 or something like that) and injections [U]are[/U] being given to those who already had Covid... It seems that medical exemptions are only available by a letter from a specialist doctor (not a GP), stating that the vaccine is contraindicated due to a specific medical condition (some of which may be on the list in the link above, but you'd need to first check with a specialist doctor first)..[/QUOTE]Hi there, great detailed report. Just wanted to make a few a corrections here as I've been to this hospital and you definitely DO require a NIK number (the ID number or they will not vaccinate you).umm not true.I got my first jab at rsbm and they asked for the nik. I dont have one and it didnt matter. they only need the nik to register the shots on the gov data base. with no nik you just get a hard copy letter stating the jab was done[/QUOTE]The condition about the NIK I believe this changed somewhere along the line, but I was 100% definitely rejected on that grounds at RS Bali Mandara Sanur and I have absolutely no reason to lie about it. I have seen others post on that Jackie womans FB page saying the same thing.As for how old the conditions are - I have no idea to be honest, a dr who measured my blood pressure told me specifically not to get it, until it's down lower, if and when this is. Was in 160-170 (I no idea over what sorry, probably should have asked but I didn't) range at that point. I know Drs have always commented my BP is too high my whole life. Some lifestyle adjustments due for me for sure! I don't feel like it's always that high but was when it was measured for a checkup recently. Working on it now. Indeed true they are mostly unwilling to write exemption letters and will refer you to hospitals.Information is from my own experience, others may vary especially in this place.
Markit
Why is it that this is the only virus I've heard about that supposedly affects children very little, if at all?Because it was engineered in a lab to reduce the pension bills of the govermnets.Why?[/QUOTE]Looking at the billions and billions (Carl Sagan's voice) that are being spent on vaccinations I suspect they could have paid pensions for a long, long. long time and still come out on top.