Markit
A friend of mine, we'll call her Slicky, was involved in every drivers worst nightmare 2 weeks ago in Denpasar. I have her permission to report this. Slicky was just getting out of her nice white car parked on the left-hand side of the road. She says she only opened the driver's side door a few inches to look back at approaching traffic. Well a 49 year old Javanese father of 2 older children and his Javanese wife on their motorbike where not only approaching, they were there. Stripping the partially opened car door both were thrown to the ground - I don't know how quickly they were traveling but both were injured. Slicky, as one does, jumped out of her car and attempted to help but was immediately told by the gathered crowd to get back in her car and stay there - advice which she followed. Attempts were made to get the man, who was more seriously injured, a ride to the local hospital (which Slicky also offered to do) but no willing ambulance was found amongst the gathering. At this time a western passing tourist who maintained he was a doctor immediately insisted that the man not be moved and to wait for a real ambulance to come. Which it did. At this stage the details get a little sketchy but Slicky was then taken in her car to the local cop-shop in Denpasar where she was made to wait. Slicky is fraught as you can well imagine but keeping a cool head she informs all the people she can think might be of assistance in her situation where she is and what is happening as far as she can tell - including an old friend that is a lawyer. Next thing Slicky learns is that she is being sent to the main Cop-Shop in Kerbokan because the injured man has died on the way to Sangla Hospital and it is now a much more serious incident. I'm only going to bullet point the proceeding otherwise this will turn into a 20 page book and it being Sunday there is a lot of Bintang to get through before the day is done. Slicky gets all lawyered up and after spending the night in jail finds that the cops are not at all happy about this as they say it "complicates" the whole problem and makes it harder for it to be easily resolved - make of that what you will. Slicky tell lawyer to bugger off. Before Slicky can get out of the slams she has to sit down with the family of the deceased and try and work out a resolution to the accident and it's resulting effect on everyone's life. This is standard procedure in Indonesian law for more serious incidents and however unpleasant has to be got through. I believe the police have a mediator on hand (please correct me if you know better) but in any event Slicky had someone that could translate for her and the result was a payment to the family of IDR 35 juta - it would have been more but the deceased contributed to his own downfall by not wearing a helmet. There are, of course, other payments of various single figure juta amounts to various officials for expediting the process and those appear to be still ongoing. I know what I would have done in similar circumstances and I will continue to advise that the situation would have looked much different from a bar in Perth, London or New York and that Slicky's argument that she want to continue living in Bali will undoubtedly have further unpleasant repercussions for her. I hope I am wrong.
Joe Writeson
... no doubt the soon to be resident expert on everything will disclaim this as 'another bar stool' story ...But I agree one gazillion percent 'Get out of Dodge' and fast is the preferred action every time.
samsiam
Oh look...here he is..Obviously all the weak minded gimps, such as the immediate above post...should follow his weak as piss advice.and $350 is a bloody cheap...and good...outcome ....for the one named sticky of course...not the other party.
Joe Writeson
The [I]expert[/I] on Indonesia speaks ... gawd only knows what gems of wisdom we will all be subjected to once he has spent a week actually [I]living [/I]in this country ... oops for someone that knows so much about this place ... that obviously doesn't extend to exchange rates...
samsiam
You should get back to practice writing...god knows you need it...and stop fucking up other peoples threads other than for your own psychological problems.....
Markit
Would you guys get a room? Of could we make a thread where just "bitches" where outed?
samsiam
He started it.
Rangi
I hope I never experience anything like this.
Joe Writeson
He started it.[/QUOTE]...oh grow up .. have you any idea how pathetically childish that sounds?...and when you have read all of my books I will happily accept any constructive criticism ... until then get off my case regarding how I make my living and put food on my table ... ...after all, I don't come down to the public toilets and try and teach you your job...
mugwump
I hope I never experience anything like this.[/QUOTE]Then keep your political comments to yourself.
Smoke
is the moral to this use the side view mirror instead of opening the door to stick your head out to check if it clear to get out of your nice white car ?
lumumba
30/35juta it is not 350 dollars but around 3.000
Markit
I'm beginning to think the moral of this story is to put all the bitchy expats you can find in one car and drive it off a cliff at Uluwatu. Smoke there was no "moral" intended. Just to inform the general public on an issue that, unfortunately, can happen to any of us here and in case it should happen, what to expect. Personally I think Slicky got out of the situation very easily and if looking in the rear view mirror would have helped, who knows - hindsight is always 20/20 - no pun intended.
tintin
I cannot believe the ensuing exchanges, following Markit's story. But, on the other hand, I can...You guys should keep out of the sun and get a job...:hopelessness:
bakung
Was just reading this as i am sitting in my lawyers office and while waiting for the hot Secretary to type up some stuff and to stop jail time thoughts as she leans over to put paper in the printer, i made small talk with said lawyer and showed him markits post and his option was she got stung ?, the reason he said she got stung was in the top of markits writing A JAVANESE gentleman, he said if was a BALINESE then that amount would be sought or much more depending on standing/status etc after but as the said corpse was not from Bali she could have got away with as little as 4/5 mill depending on bargaining skills plus obligatory coffee donations.
Joe Writeson
Unfortunately 'get a job' is not on my list of capabilities ... however ... 'keep out of the sun' is ... and because it is one of the few options I have control over ... I will.
samsiam
30/35juta it is not 350 dollars but around 3.000[/QUOTE]Yes, I made a boob and read it as 3 and a half for some reason....
samsiam
...oh grow up .. have you any idea how pathetically childish that sounds?...and when you have read all of my books I will happily accept any constructive criticism ... until then get off my case regarding how I make my living and put food on my table ... ...after all, I don't come down to the public toilets and try and teach you your job...[/QUOTE]That got you hook line and sinker hey Joey....so predictable.. Your pathetic attempts...repeatedly...of self pity are quite sad, 'legless'...'cannot get a job'...etc....get a loom, as suggested, by yourself and drown in it tosspot.
Joe Writeson
It's fairly traditional here to post in English... but apparently not always the case.
Markit
Was just reading this as i am sitting in my lawyers office and while waiting for the hot Secretary to type up some stuff and to stop jail time thoughts as she leans over to put paper in the printer, i made small talk with said lawyer and showed him markits post and his option was she got stung ?, the reason he said she got stung was in the top of markits writing A JAVANESE gentleman, he said if was a BALINESE then that amount would be sought or much more depending on standing/status etc after but as the said corpse was not from Bali she could have got away with as little as 4/5 mill depending on bargaining skills plus obligatory coffee donations.[/QUOTE]To my shame I actually mentioned this to Slicky. Also that I'd heard stories here of dead bodies being thrown in front of Bule cars at night and the "horrified" family members cashing up on the spot. She said she'd actually known of (not, [I]known[/I] the family - only "of") the family years ago when she lived in that part of Denpasar. Not sure if this increases or decreases the chances of fraud in this case.
