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balinews

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Today apparently has been a real tell-all for the director of Indonesia’s National Narcotics Agency (BNN).

After confirming on Thursday from Denpasar that two WNA pilots working for Indonesian airline Susi Air tested positive for heroin use, Commissioner General Budi Waseso had another big reveal.

The Lion Air flight that made infamy by coming up short of the runway in Bali on April 13, 2013 had the screwed up landing because the pilot was under the influence, according to Waseso.

Waseso shared the news at today’s inauguration of Bali’s P4PGN Program, the Prevention Eradication, Abuse, and Circulation of Illicit Drugs.

This revelation is so shocking, because mainstream media had reported back in 2013 that the pilot had passed drug and alcohol testing following the crash.

But Waeso says that drug testing revealed that the Lion Air pilot responsible for plunging the flight into the water was positive for narcotics.

It’s not clear why Waseso decided to go live with this scandal at this time.

Bad Trip: Pilot of Lion Air flight who missed runway in Bali was under the influence, says BNN director | Coconuts Bali
 

davita

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This surely IS a revelation.

The Indonesian National Transportation Safety Committee's (KNKT) findings of the Lion Air crash into the sea is here....
http://knkt.dephub.go.id/knkt/ntsc_aviation/baru/Final Report PK-LKS released.pdf

In the Medical and Pathological finding para 1:13 it clearly states 'No alcohol or Drugs" were found...yet this guy contradicts that.

The investigation was attended by US National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB). I doubt they would accredit the findings if falsified.
 

BestofBali

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Regular drug screening/testing should be implemented if they recognise there is an issue. Scary thought that your life is in the hands of someone that is under the influence of such a drug :(
 

davita

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Regular drug screening/testing should be implemented if they recognise there is an issue. Scary thought that your life is in the hands of someone that is under the influence of such a drug :(

This is already done on a random basis, and on annual or bi-annual medical checks...but where to start and stop making it mandatory for all who have lives in their hands.
Should all taxi drivers, bus drivers, surgeons, cruise ship crew, crane operators, air traffic controllers, train drivers, nurses, subway controllers, judges, ojek drivers, maintenance engineers etc.....all have to submit to a mandatory drug/alcohol test before they start their working shift.....or is it only pilots?
A joke among aircrew when asked "what is the scariest moment of your job?" answer "getting on the coach to/from the aircraft!"
 
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SusanSydney

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In Sydney, train drivers are subject to random testing. Sorry, prob not very relevant, but it does have some history to it.
 

davita

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Having a few beers before take-off should be compulsory. It relaxes the muscles, brings a sense of wellbeing and reduces stress and tension. Who wants a pilot who is up-tight and worrying about his mortgage when he is at the controls?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VLYpKGVBUg

Hilarious SamD...more funny now than when I first saw it around 25-30 years ago. Hale and Pace......oldies but goodies. Thanks for the memory.
 

SamD

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Yes, a classic piece of comedy from an era that is sadly long gone. Nowadays, the Ferret Protection Society would raise a Twitter storm of offended outrage. Probably not, but you know what I mean.
 

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Guys aint none of us gonna get out of this life alive so why worry if the guy running the airplane has had a couple of drinks before you land in Las Vegas where they're all fecked up on free booze and the taxi driver has been snorting coke for 3 days to pay off his mortgage or the homeless psycho you meet on the road has a pistol and would love to shoot someone?

I always take a bomb onto the plane with me purely because the statistical chances that there are 2 bombs on the same plane is vanishingly small.

Health and Safety are not a fun bunch!
 

davita

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Today apparently has been a real tell-all for the director of Indonesia’s National Narcotics Agency (BNN).

After confirming on Thursday from Denpasar that two WNA pilots working for Indonesian airline Susi Air tested positive for heroin use, Commissioner General Budi Waseso had another big reveal.

The Lion Air flight that made infamy by coming up short of the runway in Bali on April 13, 2013 had the screwed up landing because the pilot was under the influence, according to Waseso.

Waseso shared the news at today’s inauguration of Bali’s P4PGN Program, the Prevention Eradication, Abuse, and Circulation of Illicit Drugs.

This revelation is so shocking, because mainstream media had reported back in 2013 that the pilot had passed drug and alcohol testing following the crash.

But Waeso says that drug testing revealed that the Lion Air pilot responsible for plunging the flight into the water was positive for narcotics.

It’s not clear why Waseso decided to go live with this scandal at this time.

Bad Trip: Pilot of Lion Air flight who missed runway in Bali was under the influence, says BNN director | Coconuts Bali

This BNN Commisioner guy should stop talking until he has all the facts....and how good are these random tests.
Report from Jakarta Post today....

"The National Narcotics Agency (BNN) says it has found no indications that two pilots working for Susi Air, the airline owned by Maritime Affairs and Fisheries Minister Susi Pudjiastuti, had consumed illegal substances.
The statement follows a comprehensive assessment and lab test conducted from Wednesday to Friday last week, after a random urine check at Tunggul Wulung Airport in Cilacap, Central Java, earlier last week had suggested that the two pilots had consumed morphine.
“The positive narcotics test in Cilacap by the officials there was because the pilots had consumed medicine and supplements,” BNN explained in an official statement on Monday."