wayneo

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hi guys new guy here. just looking at my options. 43yrs old originally from birmingham uk.... have been living in australia WA for the last 5 years. but due to my 457 visa ive been struggling for work. (mechanic) and now ive got immigration on my ass. if they cancel my visa want to have a plan B... im not going back to the uk !!. my friends mentioned bali to go and live there . ive just had my uk pensions sent over to my bank in oz. and im thinking that if it goes tits up here then whats the chances of me being able to move to bali and just retire n enjoy life. im single and busted my balls all my life.... and help ideas on what visa i would need, whats my chances etc budget to live on ... where to live etc .... thanks guys
 

Smoke

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budget depends on lifestyle, where you live could also affect budget .. how long is a piece of string ?

live where you want each area has plus's and minuses to personal tastes etc

visa depends on many factors
 

wayneo

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if i have access to my super ;) then it just want to live a normal life . nothing extravagent ... just nice clean appartment 1 or two beds etc.... i love cooking so i am keen to try making new dishes etc.... i like to have a beer like most blokes its just finding a place where i can meet up with more poms and get to know what the new life style is all about
 

samsiam

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You should figure out how much moola you have per month all inclusive.....and see if it will last you another possible 50 years....dont forget health insurance....and dont factor in meeting a bint and having a sprog or you'll just shit yourself.
 

wayneo

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mate im 43... dont wana live till im 93.... if ive got any kids they back in the uk ;) .. dont mind meeting a girl but no kids .....
 

JabberWokker

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originally from birmingham uk
Great curries in Birmingham, is that not where the Balti curry was invented? So many people don’t appreciate us brits with our melting of cultures invented so many good foods. Not to mention the Chicken Tikka Masala also a British dish.

43yrs old
I am 48 in two weeks time and to me I feel young. You have the opportunity of reinventing yourself now. Indonesia is one of the last frontiers that anything goes. Yes money talks, but as an intelligent person you can succeed very well here.

my friends mentioned bali to go and live there . ive just had my uk pensions sent over to my bank in oz. and im thinking that if it goes tits up here then whats the chances of me being able to move to bali and just retire n enjoy life. im single and busted my balls all my life.... and help ideas on what visa i would need, whats my chances etc budget to live on ... where to live etc .... thanks guys

Personally I have had thoughts about all that type of thing recently as my options have been up in the air.

I come up with the conclusion that I would rather live in a kos, eat local, ride my scooter and do some local job (with a future growth as I like to win), than ever consider going back to the UK and driving a merc and earning decent money. I am not a three bedroom semi detached house with fat wife, 2.5 kids, dog, caravan, east enders tv, football on weekends type person. Never will be that ever. I will stay and get a new 25 year oldish sexy wife and enjoy life, of course learning from older mistakes.

It’s so much better here if you can accept the chaos. You can live very cheap if you want. Everything Bule is what is expensive and beer is the highest part of that cost. Indonesians do not plan and to be truthful I think that rubs off on many expats here as what you want to do and plan never works out really, you will end up doing something else probably. Life is just different.
 

wayneo

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the balti triangle was 5 mins away from me and i cook a mean korma hahaha. ive been told istill behave like a big kid . if i can access my super then i recon il be over ifi get kicked out .....the x gf i came out here with is back in birmingham and hating it so im pretty sure i dont wana go back. .... . whats the chances of me getting a visa to live there etc ... any ideas bud ?
 

wayneo

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where a decent place to live . just want nice n comfortable notmiles way from nice restaurants etc. ... id like a social life back if you know what i mean
 
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JabberWokker

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the balti triangle was 5 mins away from me and i cook a mean korma
I love korma, but always like to split the curries and have a vindaloo as well, half and half. I can’t live without chilli.

ive been told istill behave like a big kid . if i can access my super then i recon il be over ifi get kicked out

I think if you read most of the forum of the last couple years you will realise that the people living here are the same as you. The forum used to be different and more serious and very non expat but now you have real people living here having a laugh. So enjoy moving to Bali and having what you can never have in the UK.

whats the chances of me getting a visa to live there etc ... any ideas bud ?

Initially to just come here and others will explain better. You can come here on a 30 day tourist visa on arrival and then extend in lots of places for another 30 days. Then you need to go to Singapore or elsewhere for a renewal, which gives the advantage of visiting the 4 floors of w***s if you go to Sin city.

Sometimes in life you need to say “just fuck it”. Come here do the visa on arrival, get a kos, scooter and enjoy. At the worst you have a great holiday on the cheap for up to a year or so and then go back to the dole queue and rain in the UK. Or maybe you network and integrate and make it here. Best of luck and give me a pm when you arrive.
 

wayneo

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hahahahah cheers bud.if i get access to my super thats just been transfered from the uk then im laughing ..... .... so whats your story ....how did you get out there ???
 

JabberWokker

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hahahahah cheers bud.if i get access to my super thats just been transfered from the uk then im laughing ..... .... so whats your story ....how did you get out there ???

I would imagine you mean sport by super. I don’t have a clue, there are lots of sports bars, satellite, downloading etc.

sanur .... wheres that compared to like kuta etc?

It sounds like you do not know Bali at all. That could be a big problem for you. Just come on holiday 30 days and take it step by step, very slowly and be patient.

Kuta is the party place, like the UK heavy bar scene or San Antonio Ibiza. Sanur is much quieter.

I will leave it to the rest of the guys here to explain to you.
 

wayneo

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super is what they call your pension over here bud....no never been to bali. but im open to new experiences....... dont takethat the wrong way. haha ive got mates who swear by the bali so im gona look into it.gota be better than going back to a shit hole like birmingham thats for sure
 

JabberWokker

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super is what they call your pension over here bud.

Ok understand, hope you have a decent pension then. I always thought they sucked as it’s just a business and you are best doing it yourself. Your pension will be able to be collected but will be frozen and not go up per year. Make new money.

im open to new experiences

To those who have not picked up the vibes! Smoke and Markit went away together. They stayed together and returned to Bali together. They were NOT interested in sex outside of their room. (Okay they did sneak down to the pool one evening but got caught).
Love is in the air.

The local expats will make sure they show you new experiences.

ive got mates who swear by the bali so im gona look into it.gota be better than going back to a shit hole like birmingham thats for sure

They are right, Bali is the best place.
 

wayneo

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so i will be able to access my pension /super ??. whats my chances of getting work etc.....i worked bars done 12 years nite club security and been a mechanic and truck driver
 

bakung

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so i will be able to access my pension /super ??. whats my chances of getting work etc.....i worked bars done 12 years nite club security and been a mechanic and truck driver

Be next to zero unless you can get a company to take you on at great expense to them, foreigners cant work in Indonesia without jumping through hoops that are strategically placed to make it entertaining to try and beat, you would have to make sure your pension will cover you in whatever lifestyle you opt for here, live like a local is cheap but to be honest it is very low standard that a westerner would find hard to accept, my advice would be to do a lot more research or jump over here for a month and try different set ups of living then you can make an informed decision.
 

Joe Writeson

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Accessing your UK pension can be done, but everything must be done by 'post' as they do not like email correspondence.

Having said that, they are only following standard operational procedures to ensure security and prevent fraud, it just takes so much longer. Once payment method and transfer details set up, everything seems to work fine.

Private pension funds or 'Super' each situation is different.

Living standards.
As stated, it depends entirely on the individual, there is a vast difference between 'living local' 'living carefully' and full 'gone troppo'

With no previous Indo/Bali experience it is pretty hard to describe to you some of the 'levels' of existence. But there is nothing wrong with most street stall food that comes at sometimes a tenth of the price of the same fare in hotels or upper end restaurants.

Your best bet would probably be get yourself set up in a 'Kost' first of all, a low cost guest house, these vary from nice big airy rooms with aircon and private bathrooms, to poky little rabbit warrens with shared facilities. I would also suggest Sanur as the best place to base yourself until you find your bearings and get used to the culture and pace of life. Most of the 'working men' I know live in, around, or socialise in Sanur.

Kuta, whilst a great attraction on the surface for a first time visitor rapidly palls when you realise every vendor, bar, hotel, bar girl, taxi and restaurant owner sees only the huge ATM sign tattooed on your forehead.

Avoid Ubud unless you are a 'teacher' 'author' 'spiritual enlightened individual' 'vastly superior to working class oiks' 'a pretentious twat' or 'an extra from Wuthering Heights'.

Check out the likes of Singaraja etc. once you have more Bali time under your belt.

Working, as stated is very difficult for a new arrival with no previous contacts, the rule of thumb being you cannot take a job which could be done by an Indonesian. Unfortunately your previous skills are all well covered by locals, especially the 'doorman/security' scenario where the local wannabe mafioso/thugs run everything. The usual route for 'retired' expats is to join 'the coalition of the billing' and advertise your self as a 'consultant' ... should you wish to try this you will have to be very creative with your resume...and again you will need 'contacts'. Do not under any circumstances be tempted to work 'illegally' despite what some people say on the various forums, it can and will cost you dearly.

Do not consider opening a business or partnership of any kind until you have been resident here at least 25 years, and even then, be careful! Exaggeration of course but I think you'll get the point, again the forums are full of 'excited' arrivals with their 'new' and 'totally original' ideas... that are posting bitterly twelve months later that they have 'lost everything'. Also as a new arrival you will be amazed how some people know this and approach you with fantastic 'investment' proposals ... yes there are Nigerian Princes on Bali wearing Bintang singlets and thongs!
Beware of expats bearing gifts, if it sounds 'too good to be true' then it is 'too good to be true' but also be prepared to listen to those who have 'been there' 'seen there' and 'bought the cheese'.

Never take the place too seriously, avoid anyone in a uniform, respect the 'system' but use it, go with the flow but learn which way to swim when the tide turns.

Good luck.
 

wayneo

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ok bud thanks for that .. think i need to get this pie in the sky ideas out my head and put some serious thought into this. as i say its a plan b in case oz goes tits up for me . fingers crossed it wont come to this but id still like to visit. tho and take in the life style