Fibre (Fiber) internet to homes in South Bali

Yes, we had been waiting sometime for action from Telkom and at one stage they claimed to lose the paperwork but then somehow found it again. Then suddenly we got 2 connections on the same day - the same guy did both. So I suggest you keep at them. The bit about 5 metres is unbelievable. At the house where we got a 300 metre cable, they were a bit apprehensive and there is at least one join along this 300 metres. But when installed he did some test and was happy - said something about 90%.Indihome Internet performance (meaning how long after you hit Enter does it take for the required web page to materialize) is about the same as Speedy except that downloads are faster when they get going - and this is not surprising since you are using the same International connectivity and the only difference is that the final hop into your house is now faster.

Guys it is all much simpler than you think. Like markit says. Fiber is fiber. It is just a dumb very longer fiber. Even with average equipment incredible speeds can be achieved. All that matters nothing what speed you actually get at home. That depends on how much bandwidth your ISP wants to provide you. That, of course, depends for a large part on how much you are willing to pay. Most users don't want to pay more than Rp 1 mln. Period. telkom, globalxtreme, whoever, says: fine. I just tell you that you are on a 2 Mbps package, but forgets to tell you that they programmed their router, whic controls your speeds, to have 100 customers that each believes that they have that 2 Mbps packge to share, say 10 Mbps. This means that sometimes you may get that speed, but usually not. This is called contention ratio. They rather sell their wife to a brothel than to tell you what that is in your neighborhood.Bonus tip. Every ISP knows all the speedmeters. What they do is to give unlimited speeds to those websites. Only. Makes speeds look good.

Bonus tip. Every ISP knows all the speedmeters. What they do is to give unlimited speeds to those websites. Only. Makes speeds look good.[/QUOTE]Like to pick your brains Peter...if all those ookla etc. speed are fake speeds is there another way to determine how fast is the internet? Like I said in another post here I seem to get a consistant 4.5-5 mbps (up and down) on a 5mbps contract with a guarantee of min 70% of that...but how will I know what it really is?

Easy:1. Connect a PC directly to YOUR router with ethernet cable. Disconnect everything else. Shut down Wifi - or unscrew the little antennas.2. Install a bandwidth meter on your PC or Mac. E.g. [url=http://sourceforge.net/projects/freemeter/]FreeMeter Bandwidth Monitor For Windows download | SourceForge.net[/url]3. Install a download manager, e.g [url=http://www.techradar.com/us/news/software/applications/top-5-best-internet-download-managers-1261176]Top 5 best internet download managers | TechRadar[/url]4. Download 4 or 5 very large files at the same time. e.g. a bunch of manuals from Casio [url=http://support.casio.com/en/manual/manuallist.php?cid=001]Digital Cameras - Manuals - CASIO[/url]5. Keep adding to the list of CURRENT downloads until they add to say, 100 MB.6. Sit back and watch the speed.IPS hate it when you do this. They will have a 1000 excuses why you download speed is nowhere near the advertized speed.Bad fibre, far from the road, weather, big cows near your house, etc. Please... They can if they wish give you ANY speed. But they don't wish.Basically the same for any "last mile" technology. 3G, Wireless, DSL, etc.INCLUDING Speedy. If they want they can give you any speed. OK with a few exceptions such as trees blocking you wireless connection...PS downloading 10 big torrents with plenty of seeds would do the same.

Peter you definition of "Easy" and mine maaaaaayyyyy just differ slightly. Fact is just fecking enjoy what you've got - you are never, ever gonna make TwoKomSwell or whatever they are called back off from their promised, to your actual, never. And I fecking hate you all and hope you get a virus that your wife agrees to give your accounts to the Shah of Buttfeckistan's brother to transfer $100,000,000.00 Not really but I really, really hate this thread.

Hahaha...markit's first sentence expresses my opinion also...even I went to all that trouble...what could I expect from the provider. I'd hoped you'd recommend a speed-tester that maybe was honest...but if they all lie what's the point. Surely competition among speed-testers should flush-out who might be willing to disengage from such a cartel.

Davita that's not what he meant. The providers know exactly which websites people use to check their internet speed on and those websites are given "special" bandwidth by the providers. This means that when you try your test it's not using the same pipeline as your normal usage - it's going faster because your provider wants it to so that his service looks better. Phew - must give up drinking next week.

Thanks Markit...you should know I'm not familiar with all this techie on internet...my background is slide rule, morse code and match sticks...:lemo:Anyway...I just google search for any speed-test website and randomly select...there are many so I'm not sure how CBN know which one I'm choosing....some are in EU, UK and some in USA.

I like Peter's last method of testing. I get about 1MB per second for downloads. With Speedy I guess it was about a fifth of this speed. I think if you are only browsing websites, doing email and Facebook you won't notice that much of a difference with fibre. The beauty really is being about to download large files quickly and streaming video/music. Also with Speedy if I wanted to Skype or Facetime I would stop any other downloads to get a good connection. It doesn't seem to matter with fibre.Fibre supposedly doesn't have problems with stormy weather, so will have to wait and see if that is an issue or not. I can't believe people are complaining though. I thought we would have to wait much longer to get it.

For comparison I selected 6 different speedtest sites and tested Speedy against my new CBN and consistantly got 2 times the speed from the latter.I tried downloading Peter Ka's link to 'sourceforge.net' but got a message that someone had hijacked the site and was trying to make money...it seemed iffy so I stopped the download.

I am for the moment renting a vila with a fiber connection. I also a have Mifi router connected on 3G to Tri so I can use the one that works best for the moment. The speed I get varies noticeably during the day. Until 3pm it is OK. Then it gets slower and slower as Indonesia gets online and hits Facebook. Between 8 PM and 12 PM it is quite slow. I get DNS errors and lost connections all the time. A fiber connection does not help if the backbone itself is gridlocked.During the best of times I get downloads of ~10Mbit from fast servers in Sweden for the fiber connection and like 3-5Mbit for the 3G on Tri. Lower quality streaming is possible off peak hours which is not so bad Just a few years ago a whole internet cafe shared an ISDN connection and checking your emails tested your patience. I am in no doubt that a large number of used previous generation mobile base stations from Scandinavia ends up being used in places like Indonesia as the latest tech.

Easy:1. Connect a PC directly to YOUR router with ethernet cable. Disconnect everything else. Shut down Wifi - or unscrew the little antennas.2. Install a bandwidth meter on your PC or Mac. E.g. [url=http://sourceforge.net/projects/freemeter/]FreeMeter Bandwidth Monitor For Windows download | SourceForge.net[/url]3. Install a download manager, e.g [url=http://www.techradar.com/us/news/software/applications/top-5-best-internet-download-managers-1261176]Top 5 best internet download managers | TechRadar[/url]4. Download 4 or 5 very large files at the same time. e.g. a bunch of manuals from Casio [url=http://support.casio.com/en/manual/manuallist.php?cid=001]Digital Cameras - Manuals - CASIO[/url]5. Keep adding to the list of CURRENT downloads until they add to say, 100 MB.6. Sit back and watch the speed.IPS hate it when you do this. They will have a 1000 excuses why you download speed is nowhere near the advertized speed.Bad fibre, far from the road, weather, big cows near your house, etc. Please... They can if they wish give you ANY speed. But they don't wish.Basically the same for any "last mile" technology. 3G, Wireless, DSL, etc.INCLUDING Speedy. If they want they can give you any speed. OK with a few exceptions such as trees blocking you wireless connection...PS downloading 10 big torrents with plenty of seeds would do the same.[/QUOTE]I think you are somewhat paranoid thinking the providers are rigging the answers that Speedtest give you. It would be almost impossible for them to do that and I don't think they could care less. But if you don't believe Speedtest then just watch the download speed as you get a movie that is well seeded or any large download of something that is readily available at fast speeds. I just now downloaded an 841 Mbyte movie in 16 min - that is an average download speed of 8.7 Mbps on the service rated at 10Mbps. BitTorrent show a graph of the download speeds over much of that 16 min - I tried to attach the screenshot but the Manage Attachments dialog is not workiing right now.So no need for disconnecting anything or getting special measuring software - just put your link to work and watch it.

...Every ISP knows all the speedmeters. What they do is to give unlimited speeds to those websites. Only. Makes speeds look good.[/QUOTE]And they do that [B]how[/B], exactly?Given that just about all internet traffic in to and out of Indonesia has to ride on a backbone connected to Singapore (?), how is it that we can sometimes get seemingly fast wi-fi speeds? I can walk down my street and hook into a Telkom depot for Rp 5,000/day and get speeds of 15+ Mbps (the promise is the magical "up to 100 Mbps"). When I tried it, it was noticeably faster than my ADSL at home - not just snake oil.Oh, and BTW... "FreeMeter" is a total dud. It hasn't been updated since 2012. I just tried to download and run it from the author's site and nothing happened (didn't install properly but managed to add one process in my system).Many software download sites these days come loaded with crapware. Sourceforge, Softonics, CNet, even MajorGeeks, etc.Like ronb said: "I think you are somewhat paranoid thinking the providers are rigging the answers that Speedtest give you. It would be almost impossible for them to do that and I don't think they could care less. "[/QUOTE]

And they do that [B]how[/B], exactly?[/QUOTE]Each test server on say speedtest.net has an easily identifiable IP address. I think there are about a 1,000 of them. Either an ISP has a lackey write down all of them, or copy/paste them from a list widely circulated among ISPs. (I have that list, but I am not going to post it). Than the ISP programs their routers that sit between you and IP transit to allow whatever speed they want you to see. Takes all of two minutes to set rules on a Mikrotik, which is a typical router OS ISPs in ID use. The clever ones can even do this with one click to all their routers in one shot.Look, I think we are forgetting that bandwidth has dramatically improved over the last 10 years. On all last mile technology. Sure not everywhere in Bali - sorry Markit. Savvy shoppers can get very good pricing too. OK, Bali is not South Korea yet, and let that be a blessing...

Hi Peter...I read about your comment of 'last mile technology'. As I'm interested I checked to find this technology means the connection from the fibre-optic distribution to a modem is copper wire and therefore restrictive. This isn't the case in my new internet provider...the fibre-optic wire comes directly to the back of the modem and it connects to a wi-fi router by data cable. I could easily connect the box that translates fibre-optic light to digital directly into a laptop but I'd have to sit on the floor..:abnormal:Also...agree with JC... I opened your link (freemeter) to find the author had deleted his OP...as I noted earlier. I suggest if you make a recommendation you should try it first to ascertain it is still recommendable.

Am now the proud owner of a fiber optic cable internet connection. Have bought (not yet but will do next month) the 10gb service and to say I'm "happy" would barely touch the reality of my feelings. Having fought the army, Indihome bureaucracy, general stupidity and general inertia (Manana must be an Indonesian word) to conclusive victory I'm now basking in high speed internet. Some tips I've learned along the way: 1)Don't believe a word the "engineers" tell you get their bosses number and use it, often. 2)Do not use a paid for VPN but go for the much better freebies that come as apps tied to your browser - my fav is SetUpVPN tied to my Mozilla Firefox.3)Get the biggest 4k monitor/tv you can find/afford. Some questions: 1)Does anyone notice a better/faster connection using an ethernet cable connection to the router or same as with wifi?2)What do I need to do to get TV out of the thing? Ethernet cable to black Indihome box or special cable?Any other "newby" tips would be gratefully accepted.

Am now the proud owner of a fiber optic cable internet connection. Have bought (not yet but will do next month) the 10gb service and to say I'm "happy" would barely touch the reality of my feelings. Having fought the army, Indihome bureaucracy, general stupidity and general inertia (Manana must be an Indonesian word) to conclusive victory I'm now basking in high speed internet. Some tips I've learned along the way: 1)Don't believe a word the "engineers" tell you get their bosses number and use it, often. 2)Do not use a paid for VPN but go for the much better freebies that come as apps tied to your browser - my fav is SetUpVPN tied to my Mozilla Firefox.3)Get the biggest 4k monitor/tv you can find/afford. Some questions: 1)Does anyone notice a better/faster connection using an ethernet cable connection to the router or same as with wifi?2)What do I need to do to get TV out of the thing? Ethernet cable to black Indihome box or special cable?Any other "newby" tips would be gratefully accepted.[/QUOTE]Welcolme to the 21st century

Welcolme to the 21st century[/QUOTE]Where you and the missus come on holiday

7 weeks. What do you need?