Which Hospital?

Indiedog

Hi folks - I've got a pal staying with me. He seems to be suffering with a chest infection (he has had asthma for a number of years). he's due to fly to KL tomorrow then back to the UK on Thursday - I'm wondering if things take a turn for the worse which hospital we should head for? I'm based in Sanur if that helps. It may be that anti-biotics may do the trick but need to be prepared for the worst case scenario Any contact details, address etc would be appreciated - just in case, as I don't want to leave it to the last minute if there is a problem Thanks in advance

spicyayam

If you want a hospital BROS: Bali Royal Hospital and Kasih Ibu aren't far away: Kasih Ibu Hospital

Indiedog

Thanks for the advice guys - all is good this morning. Perhaps too much sun and not enough to drink maybe but he's feeling a lot better now ! Appreciate your help

geedee

Feeling great knowing that all medical is free here (sort of) for everyone. Wish it was like that in every country. Sort of take it for granted. Glad davita's not here would put a huge strain on government coffers as for Markit don't know if the mental health dept would cope.

davita

mugwump wroteYou can check room rates online and probably get other specifics as well. Trying to phone and learn much is near impossible. If you think S'pore Shenglish is bad wait till you try to communicate with these folks.

I tried searching but couldn't find enough details to make a comparison with my Bali hospital experience. Hahaha....I know what you mean about Penangites shenglish...my first wife was from Penang and I learnt some Hokkien as her shenglish was funny. :icon_e_biggrin: Last week I went to KL to give up my MM2H visa...and have my fixed deposit leined to the Malaysian Gov't returned. My plan, some years ago, was to live in Penang but after a few trips there decided I liked living in Bali better.

davita

Indiedog wroteHi folks - I've got a pal staying with me. He seems to be suffering with a chest infection (he has had asthma for a number of years). he's due to fly to KL tomorrow then back to the UK on Thursday - I'm wondering if things take a turn for the worse which hospital we should head for? I'm based in Sanur if that helps. It may be that anti-biotics may do the trick but need to be prepared for the worst case scenario Any contact details, address etc would be appreciated - just in case, as I don't want to leave it to the last minute if there is a problem Thanks in advance

Seems like you don't have a lot of time if he needs serious treatment before he flies out. Anyway, if you take him to any pharmacy in Sanur that has a doctor in the house (i.e. Kimia Farma) they can give a cursory check and a prescription...without going to a hospital. They usually charge between Rp50,000-100,000 for the check-up. edit: I think there's a large Pharmacist just inside Hardys'

mugwump

This post seems to have had a happy ending, and reminds me to inform members that may not be aware of an option for healthcare in Malaysia. Malaysia in one recent report is one of the highest ranked healthcare destinations in Asia. The doctors have the advantage of foreign education and training and the costs are substantially less than in S'pore. Gleneagles is considered one the top hospitals in S'pore and they have subsidiary hospitals in KL and Penang. Penang also has a Seventh Day Adventist hospital related to their Loma Linda hospital in the US, which is highly ranked. My information is of March 2016 when I went to Penang to check things out. The hospitals were found to have up to date medical facilities with latest medical technology and amazingly reasonable room rates and affiliated charges. Probably not the solution for emergencies, but a viable alternative for other healthcare.

geedee

davita wroteSeems like you don't have a lot of time if he needs serious treatment before he flies out. Anyway, if you take him to any pharmacy in Sanur that has a doctor in the house (i.e. Kimia Farma) they can give a cursory check and a prescription...without going to a hospital. They usually charge between Rp50,000-100,000 for the check-up. edit: I think there's a large Pharmacist just inside Hardys'

Davita -This may interest you and just going a little off topic but a friend of mines father is visiting from Canada. He got a little unwell and went to a large private expensive well regarded hospital on Sydney Upper North Shore. As he is an ex serviceman from Canada he received FREE treatment as Australia and Canada have a reciprocal heath agreement. Maybe this could work for you? Just arrive on holiday and check yourself in??

davita

mugwump wroteThis post seems to have had a happy ending, and reminds me to inform members that may not be aware of an option for healthcare in Malaysia. Malaysia in one recent report is one of the highest ranked healthcare destinations in Asia. The doctors have the advantage of foreign education and training and the costs are substantially less than in S'pore. Gleneagles is considered one the top hospitals in S'pore and they have subsidiary hospitals in KL and Penang. Penang also has a Seventh Day Adventist hospital related to their Loma Linda hospital in the US, which is highly ranked. My information is of March 2016 when I went to Penang to check things out. The hospitals were found to have up to date medical facilities with latest medical technology and amazingly reasonable room rates and affiliated charges. Probably not the solution for emergencies, but a viable alternative for other healthcare.

Is there any way to find what the Penang Hospital rates for rooms are? My blog, on this forum, on having colon cancer surgery in Bali's Prima Medika hospital states the general cost of the whole process at that time but I'm still on expensive cycles of oral chemo-therapy (Rp Rp3,500,000 per three week cycle.) I go to see the professor surgeon every three weeks for check-ups....which cost Rp150,000 per visit. When in the hospital for 8 nights the room rate was a base of Rp800,000 but with all the extras comes to about Rp2,000,000 per night. The actual operation was Rp47,000,000. The use of harmonic surgery tools was Rp14,000,000 (state of the art) The pathology testing was around Rp10,000,000 but was delivered 5 days after surgery whilst I was still recovering in hospital. I'm now as fit as ever except the chemo has slight itchy side effects and I'm less energetic (actually I'm just Fffing lazy as my dear wife likes to fuss around...I'm going to get her a nursey hat.) It takes me 20 minutes to go to my surgeons after-care clinic in Tunku Umar...I'm going there tomorrow again with the blood tests I had done yesterday. This contrasts with my wife's friend, who underwent breast cancer mastectomy in Singapore recently. She has to fly back there for her pathology results and after-care treatment. Her hotel bills are huge...but she's rich!

davita

geedee wroteDavita -This may interest you and just going a little off topic but a friend of mines father is visiting from Canada. He got a little unwell and went to a large private expensive well regarded hospital on Sydney Upper North Shore. As he is an ex serviceman from Canada he received FREE treatment as Australia and Canada have a reciprocal heath agreement. Maybe this could work for you? Just arrive on holiday and check yourself in??

Thanks for that info geedee...I did contemplate returning to Canada for my surgery under the Medical Services Plan but it would be considered elective surgery, and consequently I'd have to be in a queue, and who knows how long that would take...some people die waiting for treatments. My wife waited a year for an MRI some time ago. Would it be the same in Australia? edit: Just searched and found Australia and Canada do NOT have reciprical health agreements....surprised me! Maybe your friend was cared for under a military vet plan...I immigrated to Canada as a retiree and didn't serve in the Canadian military.

geedee

davita wroteThanks for that info geedee...I did contemplate returning to Canada for my surgery under the Medical Services Plan but it would be considered elective surgery, and consequently I'd have to be in a queue, and who knows how long that would take...some people die waiting for treatments. My wife waited a year for an MRI some time ago. Would it be the same in Australia? edit: Just searched and found Australia and Canada do NOT have reciprical health agreements....surprised me! Maybe your friend was cared for under a military vet plan...I immigrated to Canada as a retiree and didn't serve in the Canadian military.

Don't know about waiting lists. He was cared under a veteran type of agreement. Am sure its the same with the British military vets

Markit

mugwump wroteThis post seems to have had a happy ending, and reminds me to inform members that may not be aware of an option for healthcare in Malaysia. Malaysia in one recent report is one of the highest ranked healthcare destinations in Asia. The doctors have the advantage of foreign education and training and the costs are substantially less than in S'pore. Gleneagles is considered one the top hospitals in S'pore and they have subsidiary hospitals in KL and Penang. Penang also has a Seventh Day Adventist hospital related to their Loma Linda hospital in the US, which is highly ranked. My information is of March 2016 when I went to Penang to check things out. The hospitals were found to have up to date medical facilities with latest medical technology and amazingly reasonable room rates and affiliated charges. Probably not the solution for emergencies, but a viable alternative for other healthcare.

Same as that! I looked at going there for a general medical checkup and the price difference was phenomenal when compared to SNG along with a very high standard and what I found to be very forthcoming and helpful communications - and I hate SNG. Decided instead to stay in Bali and self medicate as all true men do and am now waiting to die painfully of some "natural" cause.

davita

geedee wroteFeeling great knowing that all medical is free here (sort of) for everyone. Wish it was like that in every country. Sort of take it for granted. [COLOR="#FF0000"]Glad davita's not here would put a huge strain on government coffers [/COLOR]as for Markit don't know if the mental health dept would cope.

Nothing in life is free...there is payment due somewhere. I contributed to the UK NHS for 23 years (taxes). BUPA insurance for 16 years while working in Hong Kong. (Canada) B.C. Medical Services Plan for 11 years (premiums) and never been hospitalized for more than 1 day, until recently in Bali......whereupon I paid all the bills. I suspect if I had made the same contributions in Australia they would consider me a good investment....even if they paid for my recent surgery. BTW news today is the UK NHS doctors are on strike.....NOT :icon_e_surprised:

mugwump

davita wroteIs there any way to find what the Penang Hospital rates for rooms are? My blog, on this forum, on having colon cancer surgery in Bali's Prima Medika hospital states the general cost of the whole process at that time but I'm still on expensive cycles of oral chemo-therapy (Rp Rp3,500,000 per three week cycle.) I go to see the professor surgeon every three weeks for check-ups....which cost Rp150,000 per visit. When in the hospital for 8 nights the room rate was a base of Rp800,000 but with all the extras comes to about Rp2,000,000 per night. The actual operation was Rp47,000,000. The use of harmonic surgery tools was Rp14,000,000 (state of the art) The pathology testing was around Rp10,000,000 but was delivered 5 days after surgery whilst I was still recovering in hospital. I'm now as fit as ever except the chemo has slight itchy side effects and I'm less energetic (actually I'm just Fffing lazy as my dear wife likes to fuss around...I'm going to get her a nursey hat.) It takes me 20 minutes to go to my surgeons after-care clinic in Tunku Umar...I'm going there tomorrow again with the blood tests I had done yesterday. This contrasts with my wife's friend, who underwent breast cancer mastectomy in Singapore recently. She has to fly back there for her pathology results and after-care treatment. Her hotel bills are huge...but she's rich!

You can check room rates online and probably get other specifics as well. Trying to phone and learn much is near impossible. If you think S'pore Shenglish is bad wait till you try to communicate with these folks.

Steve Rossell

In Oz you won't get turned away from any hospital when you are in need of help. Full stop. If you have private health insurance then this helps you 'jump the queue' for some procedures that are considered elective. Considered by the private insurance companies that is. When I look at the amount of money that I have paid in premiums for the extra private coverage for me and my family, I only see a vast money pit. if I had used the value of my contributions to private health insurance to feather my own nest I could have been driving my kids and my (ex-wife) self to the doctor in the latest Bugatti. Private medical health insurance is a hoax!

Markit

Statistically seen you only need private health insurance for the last 6 weeks of your life - if we just knew when those 6 weeks were?!

Normy

I have been paying health insurance to various oz companies for the past 45 years . The premiums now are a large portion of my annual budget. I can suspend payments when away from oz for lengthy periods. Only once each calendar year. Returning to oz July last year found my wife was suffering from stomach cancer. She needed a test requiring an overnight stay in a private hospital. I received an account for au$6.10 which was for pain medication . However the account detailed all hospital costs, (about an a4 page) The 1 day (admission 7am) and the night stay (discharge 10am next day) cost a total of AU$12000. So I am glad I remained in the fund.

geedee

I stopped paying private heath insurance 20 years ago.must have saved a fortune. My ex wife worked for medibank/ medicare and we got discount and it still wasn't worth it.She always said don't tell them you are in a fund so whats the point. I got operation privately 20 yrs ago with insurance still out of pocket by $1500 because of the GAP (the difference paid by the fund and what hospital charges) if I went with medicare it was all covered there were 4 to the room and the guy in the next bed got the exact same service as a public patient I totally agree with Steve that its a hoax. As the former Prime Minister Paul Keating said you don't need private health insurance ,medicare will take care of it.

davita

Just a thought Normy...if you had self-insured over all those years and put the money into a safe investment...how much would have accumulated by now..... and how does that compare to your medical expenses over the same time-scale? BTW if your wife still has problems with stomach cancer, and you are currently in Bali, I can recommend my cancer surgeon...please PM for info. edit: just done some sums..... I self-insured for the last three years as the only company I could find to insure at my age was too expensive. i.e. The premiums I would have paid, including the deductable, would be around Rp 300,000,000.....My total cost for all treatment to date is just under Rp 200,000,000. I may have to pay approx. Rp7-10M for future chemo-therapy pills...but no cancer evident, according to my doctor yesterday.

Normy

Thanks Davita for the interest. My wifes cancer is too advanced for an op. She finished 6 months of chemo mid March (fortnightly treatment via a port in her chest) A pet scan indicates she is in remission (but for how long) She has to see oncologist 17 May. Although she has minimum side affects, her weight got down to 46kg (dropped about 15kg). Although eating well she has no strength. The treatment cost is free as are the visits to the oncologist on those treatment days. When you visit him without treatment after govt refunds cost about AU$90. Years ago when still In the workforce health fund contributions were tax deductible as were superannuation contribs. I suppose if one were to calculate money spent on cars, slow racehorses, visits to casinos, ladies, and booze, we would all be millionaires. Oh well you can't take it with you.