meerkat
try asking questions directly via the Indonesian Immigration website :[url=http://www.imigrasi.go.id/]Beranda[/url]I was able to clear up an issue regarding changed regulation within a couple of hours -reply from Humas Imigrasi the point I'm making is that the Immigration department is issuing clear answers to questions directed to them. Insha'Allahnice way to check up on what your visa agents have to say about what you can do and what you can't do, or what they think is possible and maybe you can see if they are working around the issue or under the table. and searching the internet can turn up so much old information that has been outdated by regulation changestip- ask in bahasa via legal Indonesian company/entity if you have one...might helpeither way,we all know that regulations change and who better to ask - other than agents with vested interests
gilbert de jong
asking 2 imigrasi employees, who work at the same office, the same question, and I am pretty sure you would get 2 different/opposite answers :icon_lol:
meerkat
great then use the one you like- and you "have it in writing"
gilbert de jong
your point was : "the point I'm making is that the Immigration department is issuing clear answers to questions directed to them. Insha'Allah" my point was : : "different people give different answers, so the "clear answers" is a bit doubtful"imho it's more reliable to look up the answer to whatever in the relevant lawbook...and even then, the reality can be different then theory
Joe Writeson
asking 2 imigrasi employees, who work at the same office, the same question, and I am pretty sure you would get 2 different/opposite answers :icon_lol:[/QUOTE]...in the aftermath of the change regarding the status of children of mixed marriages an official on Batam went ballistic when someone produced documentation from Jakarta confirming the as then new rulings... quote "Jakarta cannot tell us what to do' and threatened to 'arrest' the supplier of the info ...and his wife ...AND his children. When his superior was summoned he backed his minion completely.Even to this day we maintain two sets of docs for [I]our [/I]kids 'just in case'
meerkat
your point was : "the point I'm making is that the Immigration department is issuing clear answers to questions directed to them. Insha'Allah" my point was : : "different people give different answers, so the "clear answers" is a bit doubtful"imho it's more reliable to look up the answer to whatever in the relevant lawbook...and even then, the reality can be different then theory[/QUOTE]actually I agree with you - I have just been reading the relevant lawbook as you suggest and find a "different answer" to what Immigration replied to the question we were asking- that and one positive and one negative from sampling a couple of agents so it's two votes for and two against at the moment. and so,even going with the law as it's written...as you say there can always be a different reality or 'altered reality' shall we say.:indecisiveness:
Joe Writeson
Put five politicians, five lawyers, five clerics, five teachers and five army officers in a room and ask them to define The Pancasilla... stand well back and watch the resulting 'Handbags'...
