Banyuwangi bound ferry goes down

spicyayam

Apparently no casualties... [video=youtube;p4LwCx7hp5o]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=p4LwCx7hp5o[/video]

davita

How awful to see those jumping overboard and no lifeboats deployed until the boat rolls over. Indonesia really needs to step up its safety concerns...it is a place full of disaster and chaos. Witness last Wednesday when there was an earthquake off Padang Sumatra....none of the 22 early warning Tsunami beacons, installed after 2004, worked. The local Disaster Mitigation Agent 'lamented' the lack of communication......yet she's the ffffing boss. I fear this will affect Bali's Nyepi migration from Java next week as there is one less ferry and many more frightened people to take the crossing.

davita

According to news....Disaster Mitigation Agency spokesman Sutopo Purwo Nugroho also said 71 people were rescued while four others — the captain, a deck officer, and a woman and child — were still missing. edit: four have been found dead including a mother and child and one is still missing....Four dead after ferry sinks off Bali

tel522

unfortunately from my experiences on the ferries here they are held together by paint and rust , god knows how old they are

Markit

Having worked for Germans in Germany in a tech company I can only say most German tech is great and works a treat but is presumed to be only future proof if maintained by (expensive) German technical people - we made 25% or our dosh on service agreements. Most of the Tsunami stuff at the time of delivery was probably old out of date kit sold to a government (Indo or German foreign aid) for development aid money at ridiculously inflated prices. What works in the tropics after 10 years? If this wasn't enough BS try here: http://www.gripweb.org/gripweb/?q=countries-risk-information/databases-information-systems/german-indonesian-tsunami-early-warning

davita

tel522 wroteunfortunately from my experiences on the ferries here they are held together by paint and rust , god knows how old they are

The details of the ferry that sunk.... [I]The ferry Rafelia 2 (IMO: 9079690) has overall length of 65.00 m, moulded beam of 14.00 m and maximum draft of 4.00 m. The deadweight of the vessel is 246 DWT and the gross tonnage is 999 GRT. The ferry was built in 1994 by Sanuki Shipbuilding and Iron Works in Takuma, Japan. The ship Rafelia 2 is owned and operated by Indonesia company Darma Bahari Utawa. [/I] I have a pleasure boat captains certificate but not for a ship that size, so no real experience. However, I don't think that a roll-on-off (RO-RO) ferry just over 21 years old was that ancient. I'm sure that lots of RO-RO in Seattle/Vancouver are at least that age. Also, I wouldn't suspect that a ship made in Japan would have inferior quality steel. The weather was calm so I suspect the investigators are looking at something submerged, and not on the charts, holing the hull. edit: I'm not eliminating gross negligence but we'll wait and see what investigators turn up before I travel to Banyuwangi by ferry.....anytime soon.

sakumabali

davita wrote....none of the 22 early warning Tsunami beacons, installed after 2004, worked. The local Disaster Mitigation Agent 'lamented' the lack of communication......

These beacons how you call them or buoys were a present from Germany for 50 million dollar. Surprisingly 10 years after the big tsunami they are stolen or broken... the problem of this country is, and this unfortunately runs through a recurring theme and you will find this attitude EVERYWHERE (at a Hardy's cashier lady or at a BMW sales counter), EVERYBODY gives a **** about almost everything. Trash? Open the window and throw it out. Oh this person wants to cross the street and made it already halfway so perhaps I need to stop to not drive over him? Nah after me. Find a place elsewhere where you hired 5 workers and find them lying on the ground and sleeping in the afternoon. Excuse? We had no nails how could we work boss...? The BMW has 4 or 6 cylinders? Yes I'm working for BMW (put Mercedes here if you like) but I don't know ... it's driving you know?