tintin
paulseawind wrote
I am using W/8.1 on my regular laptop. And the other (older) laptop has Vista...
PSW, are you some kind of masochist? :concern:
davita
As most regular readers may recall I'm not the smartest when it comes to computer technology...in fact, when I tell everyone my phone is smarter than I am there is a deathly hush... no-one has ever heard Davita admit anything/one smarter than he....:icon_e_biggrin:
So last night I tried to download Windows 10 to this older laptop I keep in Jakarta originally loaded with Windows 7.....what a fecking disaster!!! It took 5 hours and the result was a flickering screen. I read later this is often the case.
Anyhoo I managed to return to Win 7 but I lost some programs (which I never use anyway).
So guys...unless there are things on 10 needed.....I warn of upgrade consequences unless you know what you're doing.
BTW Happy New Year to all members...yup! all of you please have a guid nu year and hope yur first footin' is tall, dark, handsome and rich....took me a long time, back in Scotland, why I was never invited first thru' the door after midnight...:icon_e_surprised:
It's past midnight in Auckland so Happy New year to members there and soon to all our friends in Sydney. It's only 7;20 here in JKT but I'm celebrating as if I were a Kiwi...then an Aussie...then, as I'm from Bali, before the witching-hour......then celebrating here in JKT where we will be watching spectacular fireworks.
Markit
These words of wisdom from a Dell repeat owner are like car advice from someone that's only bought Ford Pinto's.
Good news is that when he only owns Dells he'll be offline shortly.
Markit
Anyone trying to understand the behavior of trolls like our very own PBW here's an interesting article trending on BBC.
2015: The year that angry won the internet - BBC News
davita
There is a saying which has nothing to do with Bali nor Windows 10...'The pot calls the kettle black.'
JohnnyCool
Some people who've adopted Windows 10 seem to be "OK" with it (so far).
And
some have had a bunch of issues (like missing/outdated drivers, software compatability, crashing computers, etc).
Many have had Windows 10 foisted upon them when they didn't want it in the first place, (not necessarily actualling installing it, but the installation files downloading in the background).
One cause of this for those using Windows 7 is having "Windows automatic updates" enabled. One particular update was
KB3035583 which will nag you forever to install Windows 10 unless you get rid of it.
I have yet to install Windows 10 on any of my computers because I still consider it a work in progress. The OS itself
might be "better" than 7/8.1, with caveats, not the least of which are the privacy incursions and inability to completely turn off "automatic updates", or at least choose which ones to allow. Even before Windows 10, some MS updates caused many people unexpected problems.
Personally, I see no "new features" that I can't live without and being locked-into MicroSoft's latest incarnation has little appeal.
With any new OS I believe that it's best to wait six months or so to see what problems early adopters have encountered (and what/how/if they've been fixed).
If you're happy with your current system, and it ain't broke yet, why "fix" it?
There are many internet articles about Windows 10, and its pro's and con's. If you're one of the unfortunate/unhappy ones struggling with it, it's possible to roll back to your previous OS within 30 days.
Note that not all roll backs work properly. The last resort is to completely reinstall your previous OS, all your previous software and drivers, assuming that you still have the original installation files.
The following sites have some interesting and pertinent information:
The truth about Windows 10 spying on almost everything you do | Emsisoft Blog
http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/how-stop-windows-10-upgrade-downloading-your-system
Good luck and have a great New Year.
:icon_eek:
Markit
And I've always said you and PPisWind won't ever be seen at the same time and place or are TSB (twins separated at birth).
hecta
Having worked in IT since the old MsDos days then progressing through all the Windows iterations up to and including W10, I feel qualified to throw my hat in the ring.
Firstly, most old-timers hate Bill Gates and his "Windoze" versions because he took away our power to control the computer. Any office-worker now using Word and Excel has become the "expert" of his/her machine. Techos need not apply.
Ok XP worked well, Vista had to be avoided then, after minimal waiting time, Windows 7 is/was a good progression. Unusually for Microsoft, a free upgrade to Windows 10 was made available. Admittedly it took several hours to complete the upgrade but once in use became easy to operate. Only snag was I lost control of my wireless scanner but easily fixed after I learnt there was a free app to control it.
nufsed.:icon_wink:
ronb
My Window 10 puzzle for this morning. Overnight the cat slept on the keyboard. She managed to switch the orientation of the screen to portrait (among other things) so that the bottom of the screen was now on the right and attempts to use the mouse were frustrating unless you picked up the laptop and rotated it - and when you do this the keyboard was a challenge. Anyhow, I Googled on the tablet, found the fix - pretty easy. Then afterwards realized that if I just used the touch screen the trouble with the mouse was avoided - and once you knew how to right click on a touch screen - it is a breeze.
I agree with Hecta - Windows 10 is the best yet - and they have promised no further major releases, but rather evolution via a series of smaller updates.
Markit
But what if you don't have a touchscreen - is it still worth changing?
ronb
I think the philosophy that some people had of "hanging back one release behind" in order to avoid teething problems with new releases has had its day. Updating is no longer something you need to decide about. You just the updates flow. For those who have deliberately held back from Windows 8/10 then there still is a decision to be made. My suggestion is that if your PC is already a bit old, maybe leave it where it is until you update to a new one that will come with Windows 10. But if you current PC is reasonably new - then update to 10 and let the rest happen automatically.
Smart phones have led the way here, iPhones update their software, and Android phones from the big names like Samsung do to - to and extent. Samsung models that are 3 years old or so seem to drop off the list scheduled for updates.
As an aside, it will be interesting to see where the low cost PCs in Indonesia that don't include a paid-for Windows licence will go. Thse guys have been good at loading pirated Windows 7, and of course they can do Linux versions like Ubuntu. Are stable pirated versions of Windows 8/10 emerging? There are certainly "Windows 10 Activators" available to download but I have no idea of how well they work.
JohnnyCool
Microsoft Windows is still the preeminent operating system in the world. It's had lots of ups and downs over the years, just like any other OS.
Overall, I think it's still the "best" available, in terms of what can run on it, (just about everything), unlike various incarnations of Unix-based systems, (Linux flavours such as Ubuntu, Fedora, etc), or even Apple's iOS, (Unix-based).
I was a trainee systems analyst at Melbourne University way back in the late 1960s. Our computer then was an IBM 7041 series main-frame that used punched-cards and card readers for input. Storage was high-speed vacuum-operated tape units (ten of them). No GUI, no internet, no "OS" in the way we think of them as "normal" these days. The early versions of Windows, which came much later, were a revelation and the rest is history.
[QUOTE][I][B]...most old-timers hate Bill Gates and his "Windoze" versions because he took away our power to control the computer.
[/B][/I][/QUOTE]
How and when did "[B]he[/B]" do that, exactly? Unless you're referring to Windows 10 or have "[B]him[/B]" mixed up with Steve Jobs.
What active role does Bill Gates have in Microsoft these days? Jobs, of course, died (maybe he's an Intel memory chip in cyber heaven).
DOS 6.22 got me going (for it's time), then Windows for Workgroups 3.11. Windows 95 was "ground-breaking" and Windows 98 SE2 even better.
Windows ME was pretty hopeless for many users. Windows XP SP1 was "brilliant".
Vista was a bad joke, thankfully replaced by Windows 7 SP1, which, IMHO, is the "best" Microsoft's come up with so far, but I haven't succumbed to Windows 10, yet.
I don't want to be locked-in to an OS that compromises my privacy, downloads "updates" without telling what they're for, prevents me choosing which ones to download, etc.
[QUOTE][I][B]...Updating is no longer something you need to decide about.
[/B][/I][/QUOTE]
That's [B]exactly[/B] what I'm against. If I don't want an "update", why should I get it? Why can I only postpone an "update" and not deny it?
And don't forget that some MS "updates" in the past have crashed computers.
Why would anyone trust MS that this couldn't/won't happen again with its no way to completely opt out of/turn off automated updates?
Windows 8 didn't go down too well with many users. Windows 8.1 "improved" [I]some[/I] gripes, a little.
The new ways that Microsoft's trying to really control what we do with our own computers sucks.
In a moment of weakness, (maybe when I'm a bit drunk), I [I]might[/I] "update" a perfectly working laptop to Windows 10.
Can Cortana speak Indonesian?
Sometimes "automatic" can mean "autocratic".
:ghost:
JohnnyCool
Um, what exactly is [B]your[/B] "point", [I][B]Real World Professor[/B][/I]?
You certainly must have been bullied a lot as a child to still keep over-compensating for your social failings as an adult.
So, now you have money (and "power"), and spreading it around Buleleng. Good for you and your ego!
As for your attempts at belittling me, that's fine if it floats your boat. Not everyone on this forum is stupid.
[B]Random Tips:[/B] Take up kick-boxing, try yoga, meditation, finish your unfinished novel, spend quality time with your wife and kids, engage with your local Balinese neighbours,
(instead of seeing them all as people who are going to rip you off), spend less time on internet forums, etc.
You seem to be spending a lot of time here and quite frankly, I can't see what you're getting out of it, or why.
You say: [I]There is nothing like the real thing.[/I]
If you seriously believe that [B]you're[/B] "the real thing", your prognosis is worse than I thought.
All power to your Dell computers.
JohnnyCool
[b]Shrivelled Sultana[/b]
[QUOTE]You want to fight and argue.[/QUOTE]
Only when and [B]if [/B]I think it might save somebody. What are [I]we[/I] fighting about?
[QUOTE]Surely you have a further diagnosis to get out?[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, my original diagnosis fell a bit short of the mark. Wasn't wrong, but an underestimate.
Are you the same guy that's a MENSA member (I forget)? At least you know the shape of a ball.
That's a start.
Member of Cicada 3301, or still struggling to get in?
[I]OK - I give up. You win. Happier now? What's next?
[/I]
[B]How about writing something useful about Windows 10 addressed to the rest of us mere mortals?
[/B]:icon_eek:
Markit
You all have not realized that the troll does not care what you think of him or say about him. His entire reason for living is having others take note of what he writes - good/bad/indifferent is all the same to your troll. He's ecstatic simply to be noticed.
If you met him in real life there would be nothing of interest there, just a squaty, little old man in greasy Y-fronts sitting in front of an aged Del hammering out his bile and hatred.
Why feed the troll?
Markit
Um, what exactly is your "point", Real World Professor?
You certainly must have been bullied a lot as a child to still keep over-compensating for your social failings as an adult.
So, now you have money (and "power"), and spreading it around Buleleng. Good for you and your ego!
As for your attempts at belittling me, that's fine if it floats your boat. Not everyone on this forum is stupid.
Random Tips: Take up kick-boxing, try yoga, meditation, finish your unfinished novel, spend quality time with your wife and kids, engage with your local Balinese neighbours,
(instead of seeing them all as people who are going to rip you off), spend less time on internet forums, etc.
You seem to be spending a lot of time here and quite frankly, I can't see what you're getting out of it, or why.
You say: There is nothing like the real thing.
If you seriously believe that you're "the real thing", your prognosis is worse than I thought.
All power to your Dell computers.
JC try this
https://balipod.com/forum/threads/combating-internet-trolls-in-bali.11358/ The "ignore" function is wonderful and is guaranteed to please!
JohnnyCool
[B]geedee[/B]. Believe it or not, I've been trying to be gentle with this guy, but it's not my business to "cure" him.
And you're right - he [B]will[/B] keep responding to what he perceives as an affront on his superiority.
Old as I am, I am still capable of empathy.
[B]Markit[/B]. I do know how to block his posts here so I don't have to be bothered by them.
Just hoping the acerbic verbal diarrhea dies down soon.
In retrospect, I sometimes miss old Roy Thompson on this forum, the most prolific poster ever.
Mostly great posts, (unless he was drunk or disagreed with you).
Didn't know that you're my master and do your beckoning. WTF.
geedee
JohnnyCool wroteUm, what exactly is [B]your[/B] "point", [I][B]Real World Professor[/B][/I]?
You certainly must have been bullied a lot as a child to still keep over-compensating for your social failings as an adult.
So, now you have money (and "power"), and spreading it around Buleleng.
.
You are correct of course everyone can see him as he is and you don't need to to be a professor to see that.
He probably has money now and loves the power.
I am an ordinary guy but I know he is lonely, has no friends, his staff dislike him (despite him thinking they do)
They probably steal from him as he is more than likely ripping them off , he doesn't respect the locals and acts like a big man where he lives.
But deep down he is insecure and if he is honest with himself he knows his downfalls.
I know he is not a real member of MENSA just by the way he writes and by even mentioning it
I also know he will reply to this but he is going to think about how now that I have written this sentence.
Markit
What Paul Piss Wind's answers look like:
[ATTACH]2635.vB[/ATTACH]
Woof, woof, woof
Markit
Johnny I had (surprise, surprise) many run ins with Roy and I do agree his posts were by and large very informative and interesting but he was equally prone to trollish behaviour by absolutely dominating any conversation.
It didn't matter what time of day or night I or anyone else would add to a thread Roy was immediately there. I was at that time often in England with 8 hours time difference and he would flash on at Bali time 4am or 2am day or night with some answer that immediately yanked the conversation back to his realm of knowledge.
It made for a very one sided experience and it was almost impossible to find out something [U]he[/U] didn't know.
If you are referring to me as "your master" I'm unable to read the projectile verbal diarrhea as I have blocked him.
Woof, woof, woof The caravan moves on and can't even hear the curs baying
