Timber versus masonry?

marklindsay

Am curious as to the cost difference between an all timber dwelling versus a masonry walled dwelling Obviously the masonry type also uses timber for roofing etc, probably cast cement bricks or cast form work The timber type would mainly be a la Joglo in fabrication ( not necessarily in style) but timber framework with timber infill etc Has anyone any semi accurate estimate as to the overall cost differential between the two? The discussion re recycled timber versus new might be best left to one side in this instance? Has anyone done the maths on the primary question? Thanks , in advance for any input

Markit

[ATTACH]2338.vB[/ATTACH][ATTACH]2339.vB[/ATTACH][ATTACH]2340.vB[/ATTACH] I built this "pavilion" from wood and mostly bamboo to get rid of the building trash from building the rest - the base is raised for land fill and for the view. The alang2 roof cost 15 milli with wood and the bamboo siding (replaceable when you want, strongly bug resistant and hey, fecking pretty) were 450,000 each.

Rangi

Looks beautiful my friend

ronb

...................... Obviously the masonry type also uses timber for roofing etc, probably cast cement bricks or cast form work ....................... Thanks , in advance for any input

Just on this question of roofing structure - I see an increasing number of new constructions using a metal framework to support the tile rooves. I am guessing it is galvanized iron - but I don't know. Take a look at Sell for Atap Baja Ringan Distributor , Supplier, Importer.

Fred2

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Markit

It's aluminum and fecking horrible - should be banned.

Markit

Rangi wroteLooks beautiful my friend

Ta very much. How's life as a wage-slave in NZ these days? Is Rosy busy this weekend?:tongue:

Rangi

Markit wroteTa very much. How's life as a wage-slave in NZ these days? Is Rosy busy this weekend?:tongue:

NZ great as always. Thank God I am not a wage-slave. Had a great time so far with friends and family I only get to see this time of year. Back to Bali in a couple of weeks. You should know, she told me shes up in Karangasem with you.

Smoke

Rangi wroteNZ great as always. Thank God I am not a wage-slave. Had a great time so far with friends and family I only get to see this time of year. Back to Bali in a couple of weeks. .

Hurry back you miss alot of parties

Markit

Rangi wroteYou should know, she told me shes up in Karangasem with you.

Dang! Busted.... I wish.

no.idea

Rangi wrote You should know, she told me shes up in Karangasem with you.

Nah mate, she only came to Sanur (saving you fuel money).

Rangi

Populaire

Hi Mark, This would very much depend on the type of wood you planned to build your structure from (e.g. Teak, Merbau, Bangkirai, Camper, Meranti) and to which degree of finishing you anticipated for the erected structure. Some areas might not require a significant foundation for an erected wooden structure (e.g. The Bukit where the sub terrain is limestone), whereas other areas may require such (e.g. Parts of Canggu). For longevity, wooden structures require a higher degree of care than their masonry counterparts. All the best, Populaire..

Populaire

Markit wroteIt's aluminum and fecking horrible - should be banned.

Hi Markit, It is actually galvalum (galvanized steel) - referred to in Indonesia for roof structure applications as "kuda-kuda baja ringan". It is not Aluminium. It is common and has been for many years. It is widely used in residential and commercial construction, not only in Indonesia. It is available in different gauges. It's advantages over wood include: - lighter (structurally advantageous particularly during seismic events) - cheaper - less propensity to warp and twist from exposure to humidity - more consistent (vs the inconsistencies of lumber - ie. Type of wood, KD to X%, sapwood or not, etc) - not susceptible to termites, etc Disadvantages include: - propensity to rust in coastal areas if not installed correctly - thermal warping more significant than wood - unlikely to be installed when an "exposed" rooftop (from the underside) is desired Still, in Indonesia, luxury homes will generally use neither of the above two options as their primary roof structure (though it should be noted that luxury homes in Bali are more likely to use wood than in other parts of Indonesia because of the common architectural practice of exposing rooftop structures from the underside). Most luxury Indonesian homes will use a roof structure fabricated from I-beams, H-beams, C-channel and UNP steel. The structure is welded together, primed with and anti-rust coat (typically epoxy based), then covered with the chosen roof covering. Its advantages include: - high strength / weight ratio - greater span capability (where needed) - greater flexibility deviating from conventional truss arrangements (which can mean higher ceilings in some applications) - very solid - minimal movement It's disadvantages include: - weight - it's still much heavier than galvalum (comparable to wood depending on the design) - expensive - not only the structure of the roof itself is expensive, the heavier load means a greater dead load which pushes up the cost of the building's structure - not as fast as galvalum to install All the best, Populaire..