Poor Air Safety Record?

sugarbear

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/01/world/asia/airasia-flight-8501-indonesia-airline-safety.html?_r=0

Fred2

davita wroteIndonesian Air Asia, as in QZ8051, is an Indonesian Company registered in Indonesia (IATA code QZ, ICAO code AWQ). The majority shareholder is PT Fersindo Nusaperkasa, an Indonesian company. The 29 aircraft are registered in Indonesia (PK). The crew are licensed by Indonesian Civil Aviation, The routes are authorised by the Indonesian Gov't, The management are Indonesian. The headqurters are in Tangerang... near Jakarta airport. A minority shareholder is Air Asia Berhad...A company registered in Malaysia. And here I thought the Indonesian flag on the side only ment it had a paint job in Indonesia. Tricky buggers

davita

[QUOTE=Fred2;101473And here I thought the Indonesian flag on the side only ment it had a paint job in Indonesia. Tricky buggers[/QUOTE] Not sure about Indonesian Air Asia's maintenance contract but Air Asia Berhad has a contract to service/maintain their A320's with Singapore Technologies Aerospace Ltd. It's possible the flag painting was done at Changi in Singapore.

Fred2

davita wroteNot sure about Indonesian Air Asia's maintenance contract but Air Asia Berhad has a contract to service/maintain their A320's with Singapore Technologies Aerospace Ltd. It's possible the flag painting was done at Changi in Singapore.

Davita if you stand up you may catch it on the way back:icon_wink:

davita

When there isn't anything of value......I usually let it fly straight over. I only catch worthy items.....like debunking myths and emphasizing truths.....:icon_idea:

Smoke

davita wroteWhen there isn't anything of value......I usually let it fly straight over. I only catch worthy items.....like debunking myths and emphasizing truths.....:icon_idea:

seems you may be confused then

Markit

Thanks for sharing that - after the first paragraph it was clear that it must be an Ozzy doing the writing as they were obsessed with trashing Indonesia. After mentioning all the bad stuff about Indonesian air safety and the bad record of Air Asia (lost it's first plane ever a couple days ago) the article at no time mentions that Air Asia isn't a fecking Indo company but a Malaysian one! If you are concerned about air safety and want a little more truth with you bull**** try this article - I love the bit about thousands dying on the roads in US that stopped flying cause it was so "dangerous" and they were such pussies. If you're avoiding air travel after MH17 and more, let statistics be your guide | James Ball | Comment is free | The Guardian

davita

After mentioning all the bad stuff about Indonesian air safety and the bad record of Air Asia (lost it's first plane ever a couple days ago) the article at no time mentions that Air Asia isn't a fecking Indo company but a Malaysian one!

Indonesian Air Asia, as in QZ8051, is an Indonesian Company registered in Indonesia (IATA code QZ, ICAO code AWQ). The majority shareholder is PT Fersindo Nusaperkasa, an Indonesian company. The 29 aircraft are registered in Indonesia (PK). The crew are licensed by Indonesian Civil Aviation, The routes are authorised by the Indonesian Gov't, The management are Indonesian. The headqurters are in Tangerang... near Jakarta airport. A minority shareholder is Air Asia Berhad...A company registered in Malaysia. Indonesia AirAsia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

davita

Smoke wroteseems you may be confused then

There's no confusion....I'm very familiar with satire, wit and 'taking the piss'. I read Shakespeare at school but beginning to believe you epitomize this form of humor better than he...and I mean that in a kind way...:icon_wink: Cannot wait to read your sonnet of 'Tragedy....Truth or Myth?'.....but realize you may not have time to write given you're still on honeymoon.....and the children need to be fed...:icon_rolleyes:

Smoke

davita wroteThere's no confusion....I'm very familiar with satire, wit and 'taking the piss'. I read Shakespeare at school

Was this before or after you "gave" kids your lunch money ?:icon_eek:

davita

Smoke wroteWas this before or after you "gave" kids your lunch money ?:icon_eek:

Lunch money?..LUNCH MONEY?...what the feck is that. I was home-schooled in an Anderson Air Raid Shelter during WW2...remember those days smoke? We eat worms and woe betide any kid that stole from my corner of the shelter...my butch sister would beat the crap out of them! She now lives in California and totes a gun....:icon_twisted:

Smoke

not at all [MENTION=11670]davita[/MENTION] but I remember a tin can with holes in it some hot coal and a Potato in in while people spun it around on a string so they could eat ! at her age glad she still toting gun ( or 2) .I actually miss my 9mm

mugwump

SquarePeg wroteBtw, both "trashing" writers are American.

The Guardian was formerly known as "The Manchester Guardian", and I don't think that Manchester has been moved to the US. But check with Rangi, as he is an authority on things like this.

Rangi

mugwump wroteThe Guardian was formerly known as "The Manchester Guardian", and I don't think that Manchester has been moved to the US. [B]But check with Rangi,[/B] as he is an authority on things like this.

Maybe you need to read the thread more carefully and then comment. The original story was linked to the NY times. This was the article Markit referred to as being written by Australians in which Squarepeg shared that he believes they are Americans. Glad to be able to help you there Mugwump.

SquarePeg

mugwump wroteThe Guardian was formerly known as "The Manchester Guardian", and I don't think that Manchester has been moved to the US. But check with Rangi, as he is an authority on things like this.

OP posted link from NY Times, not the Guardian. Careful, you want to maintain your "voice of reason and accuracy" persona so you can keep firing shots at Rangi's postings of differing opinions.

sugarbear

Rangi wroteMaybe you need to read the thread more carefully and then comment. The original story was linked to the NY times. This was the article Markit referred to as being written by Australians in which Squarepeg shared that he believes they are Americans. Glad to be able to help you there Mugwump.

I posted the original article by the NY Times, Markit decided it was authored by Australians. I didn't disagree because as we here have all learned, Markit is never wrong.

SquarePeg

Thanks for sharing that - after the first paragraph it was clear that it must be an Ozzy doing the writing as they were obsessed with trashing Indonesia. After mentioning all the bad stuff about Indonesian air safety and the bad record of Air Asia (lost it's first plane ever a couple days ago) the article at no time mentions that Air Asia isn't a fecking Indo company but a Malaysian one! If you are concerned about air safety and want a little more truth with you bull**** try this article - I love the bit about thousands dying on the roads in US that stopped flying cause it was so "dangerous" and they were such pussies. If you're avoiding air travel after MH17 and more, let statistics be your guide | James Ball | Comment is free | The Guardian

Btw, both "trashing" writers are American.

Markit

Except one time when he thought he was wrong. :abnormal:

mugwump

SquarePeg wroteOP posted link from NY Times, not the Guardian. Careful, you want to maintain your "voice of reason and accuracy" persona so you can keep firing shots at Rangi's postings of differing opinions.

Damn if it isn't disgusting to argue with people that require accuracy! What is the world coming to? Mea culpa!

davita

Thanks...ronb but do you have an independant opinion..... I'd be delighted to hear...otherwise, in other words, it seems you're simply repeating my observation.