Fred2
You do not have to leave, if you have started the process you can extend your visa (5th) no problems. Your wife will need to do some running around to different departments to have letters signed, but it's not that hard and don't need to go to your embassy for anything. Best to have a folder with 10 copies of everything you can think of, they always ask for extra copy. Most immigration officer have no idea of the rule & process ,so search the forum , you will then know the process so you can steer your wife in the right direction.
Fred2
I don't deal with agents, travel web sites or black magic .I only deal with immigration, when you start the process you are covered, immigration will take your passport and renew your visa you will have to pay of course . This is a rule for only Indonesia so Bali may be different.
davita
Fred2 wroteI don't deal with agents, travel web sites or black magic .I only deal with immigration, when you start the process you are covered, immigration will take your passport and renew your visa you will have to pay of course . This is a rule for only Indonesia so Bali may be different.
So Fred2 I assume you have done this...... so did it mean you could stay on a Sosbud for 210 days before leaving?
In Jakarta I never tried for a 5th extension....so I don't know.
Now I'm on a retirement visa I HAVE to use an agent so DIY with Immigration for me, unfortunately, is not available......maybe I should use black magic!
davita
Fred2 wroteYou do not have to leave, if you have started the process you can extend your visa (5th) no problems.
Fred2...are you sure the above is correct advice?
My understanding is the sosbud is generally only valid for a total of 180 days. This includes the first 60 days + 4 extensions of 30 days each to complete 180 days.
This is clarified by my copy/paste from a Travel Co.website....
"[I]The social & culture visa ( Visa Index 211) is a single entry visa that cannot be used for working but for all activities which have connection with government, tourism, social and culture, it is given 60 (sixty) days, then extendable 4 times every 30 days. This visa can be sponsored individually."[/I]
However, I do agree the OP should contact Immigration with his issue and see if they can give a dispensation......rules/laws, especially in RI, are often ignored.
odez999
As a mater of fact, I have not extended it up to 180 days jet !
I got VISA in Singapore (type 211) for 30 days (I applied for 60 day Sosial Budaya Visa but got only 30 days) ! And I already extended it in here 4 for times ! (30+30+30+30) ! (total around 150 days)
Before 2 years I got extended 5th time (when I got only 30 day 211 type visa sticker in my passport) without a problem !
But last year (and this one) immigration counter workers were telling me even If I get 30 day visa or 60 day one .. no mater it is possible to extend it only 4 times !
And again on the other hand .. last week counter officer in immigration was convincing me that apply for KITAs is possible only after 2y of living in Indonesia ! When asked (by my wife) to point the pasal (rule) where is such thing stated (coz it doesnt have sense beside that all ppl. told me othervise)... he felt insulted .. And told me that I can talk with his supervisor :( (and he was wrong, coz supervisor said it is possible)
Ah we will see this week what it is going to be ! Prepare for the worst hoping for the best ...
Fred2
Davita the process starts with handing your passport in with your paper work, they keep your passport until the Kitas stamp is processed. That's why you normally start on your 3th extension & should be finished with in the month, if not it will be extended.
Markit
That's almost too reasonable to be believed. It's almost like in real life isn't it?
davita
Ok Fred2 I get it.
You are advising odez999 that his Sosbud will be extended automatically as his passport is at Immigrasi undergoing the process from Sosbud to Kitas.
I thought you were giving general info on extending Sosbuds. My bad.
Smoke
standard practice from what i have heard .I will be doing this shortly also
Markit
Smoke wrotestandard practice from what i have heard .I will be doing this shortly also
Take the new daughter-in-law that should smooth the process or at least give everyone something to look at while they wait.
Smoke
Markit wroteTake the new daughter-in-law that should smooth the process or at least give everyone something to look at while they wait.
Come to think about it ,when we went to immigration with her I was helped immediately for getting the pamplet on what is needed for my kitas the process and even for adoption .
She will be living here soon (just let me know when your visiting so i let her visit Lombok lol )
Markit
Pardon the possibly stupid question but when you finally have the married visa stating you are hitched with an Indonesian person you still do not have unrestricted right to work and live here?
I can't think of any other country in the world where marriage partners of countries citizens are treated as 2nd class.
But what do I know?
Smoke
Well technically you can "help" your wife out in her biz since it all goes to "feeding and housing" the family but shhh
Smoke
read a few of these !
UU no 6 is Kan Im
UU 25 is pertinent to Dep Naker Trans - (ministry of manpower) as far as I recall
Markit
Odez, or anyone really, is it possible to marry an Indonesian and just work like an Indonesian - apparently not.
So what visa do (married to Indo) expats need to be able to just get a fecking job here like you do in any other country in the world?
Not, I hasten to add, do I, in any way, want a job!!! Or to get married. Just idle curiosity.
spicyayam
At least there has been an improvement in the immigration laws for foreigners married to Indonesians. Sure, it is not perfect, but at least the situation is better than before. At least in our case immigration were fairly helpful to get the KITAP.
Markit
But even with a Kitap there are lots of restrictions or?
matsaleh
Not possible, Markit. The spouse may "assist" in their partner's business only and this is open to interpretation and depends on the size of the partner's business.
If the foreigner wants to work for another company, the company still has to provide KITAS and pay the US$1200 IMTA. The spouse KITAS doesn't help at all in this situation.
spicyayam
I thought you could still use your spouse sponsored KITAS and you just need your company to get an IMTA, if you want to work for a company. I was under the impression that this was way it is supposed to work.
Smoke
spicyayam wroteI thought you could still use your spouse sponsored KITAS and you just need your company to get an IMTA, if you want to work for a company. I was under the impression that this was way it is supposed to work.
company controls the Kitas ( I think Davita ran into this with his wife)
