Pakman
Hi All,Hoping someone more enlightened may be able to share their knowledge.I am in Bali and I am thinking about changing my Sosbud to Kitas (wife sponsored), and am wondering if I have to be outside Indonesia these days to do so.My agent says yes, though I have read quite a few posts that mention otherwise,?:confused:Also I have read that it is about IDR 800.000, at Immigration plus a little more for forms etc, but around 1mil all up?my agent who Ive been with for a long while and has been competitive with quotes in the past, is asking 8mil!.I have deffered the process another month untill I can gather some more info as it does seem a quite steep for something I may be capable of doing myself for around a mil.Any knowledge/experience would be so greatly appreciated as Im finding a lot of conflicting info, leaving me totally confused.thanks in advance:tranquillity:
gilbert de jong
my personal experience...(I changed from sosbud sponsored by wife to KITAS sponsored by wife)So if your sosbud is sponsored by your wife, you can change it to a KITAS sponsored by your wife without leaving the country.IF you apply for the change to KITAS within the first 60 days of your sosbud.Have no idea about 'real' costs or agents costs, I just pay direct to the one in charge at the imigrasi and paid 5jt for the change to KITAS,Hope it helps :)
Fred2
I paid just under 1jt, cost is 700,000rp for the kitas + forms + fingerprints+ photos.Immigration wants to start the process after we had renewed my sosbud twice (60days +30+30). Once you start you can continue to extend your sosbud,until you receive your Kitas. Only problem was sending letters to Jakarta to be signed other wise it was just running around locally
spicyayam
Only problem was sending letters to Jakarta to be signed[/QUOTE]I tried doing it myself and completed all the forms and got them sent to JKT etc etc. Nothing seemed to happen after that. Gave up in the end and just used an agent. What I would like to know now is how to get the KITAP, which I believe is now possible after 2 years of being married.
gilbert de jong
@spicy...should be going into effect next year (Pemaron), staff still getting "training" about how to do the paperwork..yes, after two years of marriage, when applying for the extension of the KITAS at the same time apply for the conversion to the KITAP.. (same process as with the retirement-KITAS)@fred, I've been told that prices are not everywhere the same (not nationally set)..ofcourse pricedifference between what you paid and what I paid is big, but personally I would not hesitate to pay more for a bit of peace of mind..also all the other paperwork is take care off.
Pakman
Thanks,Gilbert,Fred2 & Spicyayam for your replies, much appreciated and more food for thought.Fred2 you say you started the process after your 60 day initial sosbud already into ext mode? and didnt leave Indonesia,Is this right? My 60 day sosbud still not up for another 18 days, I am on my 3rd sosbud and was waiting on document my wife needed from Kantor Sipil, which only just arrived, before I could start the KITAS process,, my agent then tells me theres not enough time for letter to go to Jakarta and I will have to extend sosbud again, then after reapply and go to Singapore first,cause I didn't do it within the first 60 days, yikes!
Fred2
Maybe your agent knows better, for a price??Things agents may not tell you, 1- you are a ATM:icon_e_biggrin:2- you can extent your sosbud x5 until you Kitas is process3- do it yourself its cheaper4- Buy a cheap ticket & take your letters to Jakarta, Immigration likes a little personal touch. They will sign it & send it back in 3 days.5- The price of a kitas is the same all over Indonesia, the only difference is too many people in Bali pay extra. Bali is the worst place to deal with immigration, I prefer to enter Indonesia at any other airport then Bali:livid:.6- You can process your kitas under 1 month, I have do it, so it must be easy:icon_e_biggrin:
spicyayam
Buy a cheap ticket & take your letters to Jakarta, Immigration likes a little personal touch. They will sign it & send it back in 3 days.[/QUOTE]Fred, that is what I read on the living in Indonesia forum after I sent the letters. I didn't want to use an agent, but then if you factor in flights to Jakarta, hotel, the extra shopping by your wife, I thought it would work out cheaper and less hassle using an agent. I met an Indonesian guy married to a foreigner and even said it was easier to use an agent. I haven't asked about fees yet for a KITAP to an agent, but it wouldn't surprise me if they charge their usual annual fee times 5.
Fred2
Same day in Jakarta so no extra shopping & hotels. You should get to know your local immigration people its a lot easier in the long run.Process your kitap after your second kitas, can't remember the price.
Dolly
[b]Sosbud tO kItas[/b]I am in the process of changing this now. Paid 6jt for guy in singaraja immigration office to do it. He assures me will be back before my visa expires on 26th so shouldnt have to leave the country but i'm getting a bit nervous about it! Don't wanna leave my 4month old baby if hubby's family had there way think he'd be on nasi goreng when i got back :icon_rolleyes: but as usual hubby just keeps telling me 'santai santai it will be back in time' although i would love a nice cider in KL :icon_e_biggrin:
BKT
I consider myself lucky, I applied for mine in Singaraja, I paid what was on the board, I think all up it cost me around 1.2mil.
Markit
I consider myself lucky, I applied for mine in Singaraja, I paid what was on the board, I think all up it cost me around 1.2mil.[/QUOTE]Sorry BKT if I'm being dense as usual but what did you get for 1.2mil in Singaraja?
BKT
My Spouse sponsored Kitas, this was back in February 2011. I can't remember if it was 1.2mill exactly but it was around that mark
Markit
A bugger! Was hoping for info on how to DIY a 5 year retirement Kitty.
alex margou
A bugger! Was hoping for info on how to DIY a 5 year retirement Kitty.[/QUOTE]Sorry mate, but you just can't.The heart of the problem is that for all KITAS/KITAP folk of any kind, not just knackered old shits like me on a retirement KITAP, but also young working guys with IMTAs and folks getting married just to grab a SPOUSE generated KITAS/P, every single action down at the immigration office [U]starts with a letter from the sponsor[/U].If you're working, then the firm will happily hand out a sponsor letter to you free, gratis and for nothing.If you're married then perhaps your wife will be prepared to sign a sponsor letter, as long as you promise to stop seeing the girlfriend for a couple of weeks! (?)But if you're on a retirement deal then your agent will smile sweetly and demand his pound of flesh.Basically, retirement visa folk are fucked. Nothing we can do about - except perhaps reach for another Bintang!Cheers!
Markit
My devious mind asks the further question that since it all hinges on the sponsor letter what has to be done to be a sponsor?What does one of these sponsor letters look like? I get one, no problem, for a Social visa.
