balibule
That will be very difficult in my opinion Balibule, they're building hotels with MANY rooms everywhere. SOMEBODY has to sleep there. So the hotel owners will think "better rent it cheaper to make a little profit than no profit at all", [/QUOTE]In the same article it says;<<< To slow development, Governor Made Mangku Pastika has imposed a moratorium on new hotels in parts of the south, where most of the island's 50,000 rooms are concentrated. >>>I think bali is (slowly) moving in the right direction. The moratorium will take care of the oversupply of rooms and eventually make the average spending go up again (at least that is the plan).The goverment is also going hard on the villas who are ilegally operating and foreigners working without the proper paperwork.The most urgent traffic congestions are being taken care of as well.Eventually, the rubbish will be tackeled as well.
balibule
[URL="http://www.perthnow.com.au/opinion/going-belly-up-in-bali/story-e6frg423-1226341578789"]Going belly up in Bali | Perth Now[/URL]Let's make no bones about it. Large slabs of what was once the jewel of the Indonesia archipelago are nothing more than a magnet for boofhead Australians whom I had the misfortune to hear in full cry about a week back.They were propped up in our hotel's pool bar, covered head to toe in attitude and suncream, pissed to the eyeballs and bellowing obscenities across the water to their sloth girlfriends, who looked as though they were on their 10th pina colada.[/QUOTE]
jaffa
What would you need a moratorium on hotels rooms IF you had an adequate planning system and looked to address the root problems (corruption) at source. I mean capitalism is great in that it results in booms and busts and those who build hotels based on an occupancy of 25% perhaps deserve to go bust. Hotels give jobs and 'generally' bring improvements to local infrastructure. And in a country where the government seems to assign money randomly, private investment is perhaps the only way things will progress here at the rate required to keep up with tourist growth. As for Bali being too crowded, take a trip along any coast in the Med (Especially Italy and Spain) and you will see much much greater development, far greater population but still crystal clear waters and coastline that is protected. Mallorca and other islands handle far more tourist with ease, so no reason Bali can't do the same with investment, education and some strong leaders who don't just seek to line their own pockets. My 2 bobs worth...
jaffa
Rule 1....never write posts after Bintangs......I mean to say "Why would you need........." Oops
balibule
What would you need a moratorium on hotels rooms IF you had an adequate planning system and looked to address the root problems (corruption) at source.[/QUOTE]Hi JaffaI think the main reason for the moratorium is because there are to many "hotelsbeds" for the amount of tourists that arrive.
jaffa
[b]Moratorium[/b]Yes, I appreciate the moratorium and the reasons why but my point was that capitalism is the great leveler when it comes to business.Let the market control who builds what (subject to planning approval) and let businesses go bust by building hotels that can't get more than 20-30% occupancy. Rumour has it, thatits starting to bite here in Nusa Dua.If you believe in a moratorium on hotels rooms, why not a moratorium on motorbike stupidity (36 people die every day in Bali) or a lift in the minimum wage OR some compulsory education on how to ride a bike/drive a car?? A moratorium is a blunt instrument that should not be needed if they had a few brave souls in the higher echelons of Government who would be prepared to implement a planning code. One might argue an empty hotel room is more attractive than a run down Warung that uses the adjacent river as a tip.......QUOTE=balibule;71912]Hi JaffaI think the main reason for the moratorium is because there are to many "hotelsbeds" for the amount of tourists that arrive.[/QUOTE]
Annam
[b]so true[/b]I totally agree with all the above, especially the increase in arrivals.....it is true nothing is reported about the huge amount that will never return because of what has happened to Bali. I know of many long time visitors who have vowed never to return to Bali and will instead go somewhere else,, which is their own choice of course. sad to say but any restuarant or (aussie owned and operated") establishment that has boards advertising F****** good tucker mate...and "Bloody cold P***" is enough to put anyone off from ever wanting to go there. With the ever increasing hotels being built soon it will be Bali-De Sol.....[/QUOTE]Also, T shirts with lewd pictures and crass/disgusting slogans displayed publicly in areas where tourists bring children will turn people away ..........
Annam
[b]to wear or not to wear...[/b]It would be nice if they actually wear a t-shirt at least on the streets, malls, restaurants or bars.[/QUOTE] I second that!
hanzrobby
Like them or not all tourists contribute to the bali economy, whether it is simply keeping the hotel staff in work or buying the bintang singlet.I hate and feel embarressed when i see other australians acting like fools while over here. You wouldn't even go into maccas in perth with out a shirt or shoes on so why go into a quality resturant over here. They should not let them in, but most do not say anything.It won't change with the flights getting cheaper and cheaper.If people want to stay in their $300 a night villas so be it. They are still eating and drinking and paying their way. You can't always change things when people don't realize there is a problem. That is both the locals and visitors.
motormouth
As a surfer, l have to laugh when others describe Bali as having been developed from the surfing boom here.Europeans have been coming here since the 20's with not a surfer in sight.As a person who travels in and out of the Bali airport about 15+ times per year, l can say without any question that no more than 3-4 passengers on a flight have any form of surf craft/board...whatever.which would roughly equate to @ 2% of passengers.Wow...what a support to the community.As for the trash...in my 12 years here it has hardly changed...poor discipline from the people and even worse effort from the government.I read the other day that 66% of trash is illegally dumped daily here...WHAT A DISGRACE
