gilbert de jong
a list of Indonesia's Government ministery's...Menteri AgamaMenteri Badan Usaha Milik NegaraMenteri PertahananMenteri Dalam NegeriMenteri Hukum dan Hak Asasi ManusiaMenteri Kebudayaan dan PariwisataMenteri KehutananMenteri Energi dan Sumber Daya MineralMenteri Kelautan dan PerikananMenteri KesehatanMenteri Koordinator Bidang Kesejahteraan RakyatMenteri KeuanganMenteri Komunikasi dan InformatikaMenteri Koperasi dan Usaha Kecil dan MenengahMenteri Lingkungan HidupMenteri Luar NegeriMenteri Pekerjaan UmumMenteri Pembangunan Daerah TertinggalMenteri Pemberdayaan Perempuan dan Perlindungan AnakMenteri Pemuda dan OlahragaMenteri Pendayagunaan Aparatur Negara dan Reformasi BirokrasiMenteri Pendidikan NasionalMenteri PerdaganganMenteri Koordinator Bidang PerekonomianKepala Badan Perencanaan Pembangunan NasionalMenteri PerhubunganMenteri PerindustrianMenteri Pertahanan RepublikMenteri PertanianMenteri Perumahan RakyatMenteri Koordinator Bidang Politik, Hukum, dan KeamananMenteri Riset dan TeknologiMenteri Sekretaris NegaraMenteri SosialMenteri Tenaga Kerja dan TransmigrasiFor me it makes total sense why the left hand is not knowing what the right hand is doing....
hermit
But thanks god there is the"Menteri Pendayagunaan Apparatur Negara dan Reformasi Birokrasi"that will stramline it all.Do not forget all the state secretaries in each ministry that are pushing up like mushrooms after the rain.
gilbert de jong
:highly_amused: yeah, what would the government be without a department who streamlines it all :icon_wink:ow yeah...the secretaries...the secretaries of secretaries etcetc...seems there's no end...haven't mentioned the provincials like the governor,bupati, walikota etcetc too...:icon_biggrin:
Markit
I love and promote chaos at every opportunity and wouldn't have it any other way, that why I love it here. If they were as efficient as the Germans you couldn't live here - come to think of it, if the Germans were as efficient as the Germans you couldn't live there either.
davita
I love and promote chaos at every opportunity and wouldn't have it any other way, that why I love it here.[/QUOTE]I agree. When I'm frustrated by the Balinese 'management by chaos' model I remind myself, if it was perfect, we'd need to rename the island to.....'Honolulu'!
klaatu
For me it makes total sense why the left hand is not knowing what the right hand is doing... EH? the right hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing!
Joe Writeson
For me it makes total sense why the left hand is not knowing what the right hand is doing... EH? the right hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing![/QUOTE]... and THAT sums it in one perfect quote!
ronb
Just our of interest here is the equivalent list for Australia. It is in 3 bits: Cabinet, Outer Misitry, Parliamentary Secretaries.The following members of Cabinet were sworn in on 18th SeptemberPrime MinisterDeputy Prime Minister Minister for Foreign Affairs Minister for Employment Attorney-General Treasurer Minister for Agriculture Minister for Education Minister for Indigenous Affairs Minister for Industry Minister for Social Services Minister for Communications Minister for Health Minister for Small Business Minister for Trade and Investment Minister for Defence Minister for the Environment Minister for Immigration and Border Protection Minister for Finance Outer MinistryAssistant Minister for Social Services Assistant Minister for Employment Assistant Minister for Health Minister for Veterans' Affairs Assistant Minister for Education Minister for Human Services Minister for Justice Assistant Minister for Defence Assistant Minister for Immigration and Border Protection Assistant Minister for Infrastructure and Regional Development Acting Assistant Treasurer Parliamentary SecretariesParliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Agriculture Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Industry Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Foreign Affairs Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasurer Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Social Services Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for the Environment Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Education Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Defence Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Communications Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Finance [/quote]
davita
If they were as efficient as the Germans you couldn't live here - come to think of it, if the Germans were as efficient as the Germans you couldn't live there either.[/QUOTE]I blame the Japanese for this chaos...if they hadn't invaded Pearl Harbor USA would have stayed neutral in WW2. Germans would run all of Europe and Russians would still be on food stamps. There would be NO migration from the African continent to EU. The Muslim world would still be praying 5 times a day but the oil would be confiscated (stolen). The Suez Canal would be under German management and Iraq, Afghanistan etc would be words in old geography books. Oh! and all of Asia would be speaking Japanese with organised labor forces and organised traffic flow to augment Japanese superiority.Silly Japs...what were they thinking!
Joe Writeson
a monster [SIZE=5]LIKE[/SIZE] to #10
klaatu
I blame the Japanese for this chaos...if they hadn't invaded Pearl Harbor USA would have stayed neutral in WW2. Germans would run all of Europe and Russians would still be on food stamps. There would be NO migration from the African continent to EU. The Muslim world would still be praying 5 times a day but the oil would be confiscated (stolen). The Suez Canal would be under German management and Iraq, Afghanistan etc would be words in old geography books. Oh! and all of Asia would be speaking Japanese with organised labor forces and organised traffic flow to augment Japanese superiority.Silly Japs...what were they thinking![/QUOTE] Or imagine if the Dutch still ran this country or for that matter Whites still ran south Africa and Indonesia still ran Timor Timur and Aboriginals ran Australia and Maoris still ran NZ...Or do countries become better without colonial rule...hmmm maybe they were colonized for a reason
