balibule
Just had dinner in Sanur with a fair amount of fireworks. Did it start already? Will it be as bad as last year? Did anyone else notice?
soontobeexpat
Sorry to be totally naive but.. Has what started already?? What was so bad about last yr?
balibule
The fireworks. Last year they started several days or weeks before christmas new year and lasted at least for one week or more after new year.
A really rediculous amount of fireworks.
I hope this year will not be as bad.
mat
balibule wroteJust had dinner in Sanur with a fair amount of fireworks. Did it start already? Will it be as bad as last year? Did anyone else notice?
Noticed that most shops/supermarkets [even baby shops] now have large displays of fireworks on sale. However yesterday was a good day in the Balinese calendar for getting married, so may be just celebrations for those. But in all honesty I think, yes, it has started. The Balinese love their fireworks.
RhysG
OMG yes it has started and yes it will be as bad as last year but we are just going to have to get use to it. even though it a royal pain in the gluteus maxims but if you can't beat them why not go out there a join them, who know you might even get to know the bajar ( [B]MAJOR IMPORTANT IN BALI[/B] ) so some good could can come out of it.
chill withe lokal and keep on there good books hell sit down and have some ark with them maybe, they will love that learn to speak Balinese or indo if you havent ([B]ANOTHER MAJOR IMPORTAN IF LIVING IN BALI[/B], ok I'm blabbing on im going to stop now.
yes it going to be like last year with the fire works
balibule
I love fireworks but that doens't mean I want to have fireworks going of 5 meters away from me while I'm having dinner. Or to have fireworks halfway January on a random evening in the middle of the week at 11 PM for no reason.
I think when new year has passed they sell left over fireworks at lower prices as they wouldn't last until next year.
JohnnyCool
I read somewhere recently that setting off fireworks "illegally" is now "banned".
I [I]think[/I] this was in response to a few buildings burning down because of them and a few more injuries.
Personally, I haven't seen any effects of this new "law"/decree.
The police have also been ordered to stop very young children riding around on motorbikes (without helmets/licenses). They are [I]supposed[/I] to be "arrested", the motorbikes confiscated and the "adults" who provided them could be charged for endangering public safety.
I've yet to see [I]any[/I] evidence that this is occurring, too.
The parents of the 14 year-olds who recently crashed into a tree in Renon while driving a car at high speed [I]might[/I] be charged for some kind of negligence.
The same for the parents of two other juveniles who were killed in a head-on smash on the same night.
I rarely, (if ever), see police patrolling the smaller streets to catch these kids. I see these very young children every day of the week. What makes me angry is that their parents or older siblings give them the keys in the first place.
The time for talk is over (IMHO) - it's time for education programmes and some concrete examples of those allowing them on the roads to be punished. (Significant fines, vehicles confiscated, even jail terms.)
Guess we'll all just have to wait and see how seriously the police take these tragedies on-board, and when (or if), they actually do something about preventing them in future.
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soontobeexpat
JohnnyCool wroteI read somewhere recently that setting off fireworks "illegally" is now "banned".
I [I]think[/I] this was in response to a few buildings burning down because of them and a few more injuries.
Personally, I haven't seen any effects of this new "law"/decree.
The police have also been ordered to stop very young children riding around on motorbikes (without helmets/licenses). They are [I]supposed[/I] to be "arrested", the motorbikes confiscated and the "adults" who provided them could be charged for endangering public safety.
I've yet to see [I]any[/I] evidence that this is occurring, too.
The parents of the 14 year-olds who recently crashed into a tree in Renon while driving a car at high speed [I]might[/I] be charged for some kind of negligence.
The same for the parents of two other juveniles who were killed in a head-on smash on the same night.
I rarely, (if ever), see police patrolling the smaller streets to catch these kids. I see these very young children every day of the week. What makes me angry is that their parents or older siblings give them the keys in the first place.
The time for talk is over (IMHO) - it's time for education programmes and some concrete examples of those allowing them on the roads to be punished. (Significant fines, vehicles confiscated, even jail terms.)
Guess we'll all just have to wait and see how seriously the police take these tragedies on-board, and when (or if), they actually do something about preventing them in future.
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In regards to the Fireworks enforcing, Kuta Beach its HEAVILY enforced but by hotel/restraunt security and they usually get somewhat violent and vicious however you are shuffled down the beach strip to Double 6 "out side the sign" or Kartika. The sign where they tell you to go is a sign that says they are banned and if you want to use them get local police permission..
Those things are horrible and dangerous, god knows why you would trust a 6 year old playing with them. We were relaxing on the beach one night/morning and some drunk western came down, lit the roman candle (real firework tube with 8 shots) didnt hold it properly, first one went off he dropped the cannister and 7 fireworks were then being shot all around the beach.. The friends thought it was HILARIOUS.
Thank god no one was hit by one of these stupid things!
The kids on the motorbikes? what a joke that is..
Apparently at my nieces school if they get caught driving before the age limit the school confiscates the motorbike from the child and the parents have to come pick it up at a later stage along with the child.. This is in Java
JohnnyCool
[QUOTE]Those things are horrible and dangerous, god knows why you would trust a 6 year old playing with them.[/QUOTE]
Well, if they let them ride motorbikes, why not?
[QUOTE]Apparently at my nieces school if they get caught driving before the age limit the school confiscates the motorbike from the child and the parents have to come pick it up at a later stage along with the child.. This is in Java
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Not sure if Bali is advanced as Java, yet.
I nearly collected some more today. Or, they [I]nearly[/I] crashed into me.
Don't you love it when somebody [I]just[/I] missed being killed on the spot by fractions of a second, or maimed for life, but still smiling?
Sometimes smiling is a kind of coping mechanism here when people momentarily realise they did something wrong/bad, but got away with it.
Even more frightening is watching what bystanders do when confronted with a serious accident.
Usually, all the wrong things.
Mind you, to be fair, lots of educated westerners aren't much better in similar situations.
However, you don't normally see them "smiling" or laughing...
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Liebling
[b]I heard the bangs at Massimos[/b]
Yep - it has begun. It's just all loud from here!
no.idea
We were lucky last year. It rained just before midnight. This year the noise will be worse. There is an alang alang (grass) roof on three of my buildings. New year consists of rolling out the hoses and hoping like hell there is no fire.
Liebling
[b]I remember last year *groan*[/b]
[SIZE=3]It was shocking, just terrible. You've just brought back to me, all that I groaned and bitched about last year. I had totally forgotten about it until I read this post. Oh dear, all booked for Christmas and New year and NOW I record the painful event! I remember they were doing something with the road whee I was staying. So, from sun set to God only knows what time in the morning we had the fireworks, at the same time, from 10pm until 5am we had the road works. Ye Gods, I shall never forget it!
All that said, I adore fireworks - it was a big deal in England and we used to celebrate Guy Fawkes night every year without fail. Still, the whole community would build a huge bonfire on common land and the fireworks would be an organized affair. We would have hot, roasted chestnuts, sizzling sausages, all kinds of yummy food. Happy memories - however, I never remembered the fireworks ever going on all night and through past breakfast the next morning! Just pray that good sense prevails! [/SIZE]
Tamispecial
on a recent visit to Legian beach with friends i was amazed....and getting very annoyed at the amount of bangers being thrown everywhere scaring some people and almost hitting somebody in the face.
Fireworks are illegal simple as that.
Some people just want to spoil it for others....come NYE the oohs and ahhhs wont seem the same as so many fireworks are let off all year round.
balibule
And it has started again since last week :(
matsaleh
Yes, I'm already fed up. Every night this week for at least 2 hours.:icon_evil:
I thought fireworks were banned?!
Markit
Where do these "poor" Balinese get the money for the fireworks from - they damn sure aint cheap!
balibule
the little ones go between 1,000 to 10,000 and are pretty noisy. that's not very expensive.
Annam
it certainly has started ..... and it is very worrying as it is mainly youngish and very young kids in the street here. I mentioned to one parent that there was no supervision and that it could be dangerous, and they just laughed at me. The kids are throwing them at each other!
divewench
It's getting so bad in my street in Nyuhtebel that I won't walk out after I've got home at 4.00pm. The (normally nice) kids think nothing of throwing bangers directly at you, whilst the elders just watch. Roll on New Year when they run out of fireworks and I can walk safely to the nearby shops without fearing for my life :C
gilbert de jong
buy bigger,harder,louder, and throw it at them ;p