ibuenglish
Just wondering what the second hand car market is like.. Could I expect to get something decent for around $10,000AUD/80 million rupiah?Thanks for any advice
mat
Just wondering what the second hand car market is like.. Could I expect to get something decent for around $10,000AUD/80 million rupiah?Thanks for any advice[/QUOTE]Yes, the upper end of the used car market is good. You will be able to get something decent, but beware there are a lot of wrecks around that can be expensive. So take care and shop around.
ronb
So your budget is about half the cost of a lower end new car. Cars hold their value better than in countries like Australia - roughly they lose only 10% per year. So on you budget you would be looking at cars maybe 6 or more years old.But since they hold their value better, buying new cars can make more sense.
manofadventure
Any advice on where to look for a solid, used car?We are currently looking in the budget range of 50 million IDR or less - I am thinking to get an old taxi.Thoughts? Suggestions?
mat
Any advice on where to look for a solid, used car?We are currently looking in the budget range of 50 million IDR or less - I am thinking to get an old taxi.Thoughts? Suggestions?[/QUOTE]Bali Advertiser, second hand car sales shops on the road, privately advertised cars [from adverts in car windows.]What part of Bali are you in? I have a Suzuki Katana [Jimmy] that clean and all up together that is reliable if you are interested. It's in the north. New t bars, hand brake, indicators, seat belts, battery. Has mag wheels, nice seats, regularly serviced and tinted windows with AC [stands out from most others of the same make]. Pretty good on bad roads and very cheap to maintain/run. 1st reg Oct 1993, but looks good. I'm off to the UK for 6 months soon and will need to upgrade as I have a baby now and want something I can fit a baby seat in. Will be going down south soon for business.Oh yes, never been stopped by the police in it over the last 2 years. Bonus !
mat
Here's a photo, to give some idea. Not thought about selling it before. was going to hire it out to get some income.
gilbert de jong
old taxi?? don't know what's 'old' in your book, but the vios ex-taxi is surprisingly expensive second-hand...no where near the 50jt you're willing to spend. but guessing you're looking for a 'sedan' type of car and to give you an idea of what to expect----- 1997 toyota corolla 1.6L 58jt1986 honda accord 25jt1988 daihatsu charade 25jt1994 suzuki esteem 1.6L 40jt
matsaleh
For those members who are not yet proficient in bahasa Indonesia:"juta" or "jt" = million in English
ibuenglish
Thanks for the replies. Also wondering if long-term car rental (12 months) is a good option or usually works out too expensive?
Debbie A
[b]your car[/b]Matt.. how much are you asking for your suzuki?Bali Advertiser, second hand car sales shops on the road, privately advertised cars [from adverts in car windows.]What part of Bali are you in? I have a Suzuki Katana [Jimmy] that clean and all up together that is reliable if you are interested. It's in the north. New t bars, hand brake, indicators, seat belts, battery. Has mag wheels, nice seats, regularly serviced and tinted windows with AC [stands out from most others of the same make]. Pretty good on bad roads and very cheap to maintain/run. 1st reg Oct 1993, but looks good. I'm off to the UK for 6 months soon and will need to upgrade as I have a baby now and want something I can fit a baby seat in. Will be going down south soon for business.Oh yes, never been stopped by the police in it over the last 2 years. Bonus ![/QUOTE]
mat
Matt.. how much are you asking for your suzuki?[/QUOTE] pm sent, regards Mat.
Debbie A
[b]your car[/b]Matt can you post a couple of pics of the inside please.. I cant pm reply to you because I have not posted enough on this thread, but I'm interested
mat
Matt can you post a couple of pics of the inside please.. I cant pm reply to you because I have not posted enough on this thread, but I'm interested[/QUOTE]I haven't cleaned the interior but, Here they are;I forgot to mention I put new locks throughout [so plenty of spare keys] and it has a 'banging' stereo with booster amp. which can be taken out as the ordinary stereo is enough.
mat
Bali Advertiser, second hand car sales shops on the road, privately advertised cars [from adverts in car windows.]What part of Bali are you in? I have a Suzuki Katana [Jimmy] that clean and all up together that is reliable if you are interested. It's in the north. New t bars, hand brake, indicators, seat belts, battery. Has mag wheels, nice seats, regularly serviced and tinted windows with AC [stands out from most others of the same make]. Pretty good on bad roads and very cheap to maintain/run. 1st reg Oct 1993, but looks good. I'm off to the UK for 6 months soon and will need to upgrade as I have a baby now and want something I can fit a baby seat in. Will be going down south soon for business.Oh yes, never been stopped by the police in it over the last 2 years. Bonus ![/QUOTE]Must add, power steering, spare wheel and tyre intact, new drive shaft bearings [last month] new water pump and service [as today].
wayansamy
[b]Your car[/b]any advice on where to look for a solid, used car?We are currently looking in the budget range of 50 million idr or less - i am thinking to get an old taxi.Thoughts? Suggestions?[/quote] buy a kijang it s a solid car
JohnnyCool
I bought a second-hand 1995 Daihatsu Feroza about 16 years ago. I don't remember what the Rupiah was worth then (maybe half of what it is today). At the time, it cost me about Rp 60 juta (maybe AUD 12,000 then). Now, I've driven this box-on-wheels all around Bali maybe a million times. Also all around Java for a couple of years. The engine timing belt broke once (in Java) and I had to hire an empty tourist bus in the middle of the night to tow it to my house in Jogjakarta. Apart from that, that Feroza is amazing (reliability-wise).Of course, I've had to change tyres (normal), etc. I've always had it serviced by official Dahaitsu outlets. The one in Sanur reckons it's one of the best they've driven but they still won't give me a free T-shirt. It's only got a 1600cc motor and is not 4-wd but it gets me just about everywhere. I tried to talk them into buying it from me and putting into their show-room but they lack marketing imagination.After all these years, I could still sell it for about Rp 42 juta (without my sound system). In case I'm inundated with offers...it's not for sale.So - a second-hand "taxi" for Rp 50 juta [B]is[/B] a possibility (I wouldn't buy one). You can still pick up VW Safaris in excellent condition for less. Or a second-hand [I]tuk-tuk[/I] (three wheeler nightmare thing). Toyota Kijangs have always held their value here - not sure in the future because of the Japanese earthquake/tsunami and availability of spare parts.There are three ways to buy a second-hand car here:1) Spot one being driven with a "Dijual" sign on it ("For Sale") and ring the owner2) Find a place with heaps of second-hand cars for sale and check3) Read the for sale ads in [B]local[/B] newspapers - expat rags tend to be "Expat-owned and maintained - must leave Bali soon - all log-books", etc.:icon_biggrin:
mugwump
[b]Used Cars[/b]Matt.. how much are you asking for your suzuki?[/QUOTE] Certainly not referring to Matt here, but be careful when reading used car odometers from dealers. I have learned from observation and from others that the odometer readings on many used cars have been spun back. Looking at door handles and clutch and accelerator pedals for wear can be far more revealing than the odometer.Three years ago I went through the same situation and finally gave up on used dealer cars and bought a new Daihatsu. It has been a good decision and has worked out fine despite my reluctance to pay that much. Good Luck!
hermit
[b]Market economy:supply and demand[/b] I bought a second-hand 1995 Daihatsu Feroza about 16 years ago. I don't remember what the Rupiah was worth then (maybe half of what it is today). At the time, it cost me about Rp 60 juta (maybe AUD 12,000 then).[/QUOTE]From wich year is your car?a 1995 model still fetches 55 to 60 juta now.It is not unusual for cars being more expensive now than when they were new,the Karimun is a good example.I have spoken to several people who bought a second hand Karimun and sold it a few years later for more.With the prices that are asked now i think that is not possible any more.@1,2 and 3:Very few cars that are sold by dealers or otherwise have any service record,so you will have to change things like timingbelts etc.to make sure your engine is not damaged by a faulty one.Or go for the option expat car with sevice records and bills,but these cars are most of the time just as overpriced as the rest,if not more.I have learned from observation and from others that the odometer readings on many used cars have been spun back[/QUOTE]There is also the problem of cars with odometers going till 99.999km only.So you may encounter a twenty year old Suzuki Van with 10.000km on the odometer of wich the seller seriously claims that is what it has travelled.Add at least 200.000 km. to be on the safe side.
JohnnyCool
Hi hermit[I]From which year is your car? a 1995 model still fetches 55 to 60 juta now.[/I][/QUOTE]My Feroza is a 1995 model and still going strong. If I wanted to sell it now (which I don't), and could get [I]Rp[/I] 60 juta for it, by today's exchange rate that would be AUD 6,571, roughly half what I paid in the first place. That's not [I]too[/I] bad considering I've had it for 16 years!Also, I spent [I]Rp[/I] 7 juta last year to repair various dings, etc, and re-painted with [B]real[/B] Daihatsu metallic paint ([B]by[/B] Daihatsu). My Feroza doesn't have mud-flaps anymore - one of my Balinese dogs ate them. It's also missing a few trims here and there, after I was nearly run off the road by drunken Balinese on motorbikes years ago. I've never bothered to replace them (unnecessary, purely cosmetic).:icon_lol:
hermit
Hi hermitMy Feroza is a 1995 model and still going strong [/QUOTE]According to my arithmetics you must have bought it new,if it is 16 years old.
