LATAH
Hi All,
I'd like to sell my motorbike in NSW, Australia and I'm hoping there might be some way to do this without returning to sign over rego etc.
The bike is with my brother who can show it and has all the necessary paper work & history. I guess I could get my brother to post me the paper work and I could sign it over to him to sell but it seems to me that this would take time and perhaps unnecessary paperwork & cost.
Wondering if anyone might know of someway that I could handle all the rego transfer stuff without being there myself?
BTW - Wanting to buy Honda Phantom....can anyone give me info on how hard these are to find here and if they attract a much higher price than they would in Singapore or Thailand? Any info on Honda Phantoms would be great!
spicyayam
I don't know about motorbikes but I know you can give someone POA and they can sell property on your behalf. Probably if you gave the roads dept in NSW a quick call they could tell you straight away the procedure or there might be something on their website.
ronb
The registered owner must complete a Notice of Disposal, and it seems you may be able to do this on-line. Look at
myRTA - Notice Of Disposal
gilbert de jong
Hi Latah,
do you mean the 200cc phantom or the new shadow phantom?
gilbert de jong
Okidoki....
prices for a 200cc (single cilinder)honda phantom, vary anywhere between 23jt and 45jt...depending on buildyear / condition / papers / accessoires fitted.
another option is a honda steed, prices are the same...but this is a two cilinder (V) 400cc bike...driverposition is a bit lower then on the phantom and a bit more laidback.
both type of bikes are not easy to find on Bali, more easily on Java..
as for maintanance, not expensive, spareparts are pretty easy to find if needed.
The phantom having a single cilinder, makes that every bengkel on the island can take it apart and put it back together the way it should.
as for the bike importing, simple answer is don't do it....lot of paperwork and hassle.
gilbert de jong
you're welcome latah, and when I hear or see any nice and good 'chopper' kind of bike I will let you know.
btw if you don't mind buying chinese made, you could also buy a brand-new Kaiser Ruby...either a 150cc single cilinder or a 250cc V-twin cilinder engine...the 250cc bikes price if I remember right was only 27jt or 28jt.
great story about the hyosung, there are also hyosungs on the Island..but dealership again on Java.
oh forget to mention about the importing, besides the paperwork and hassle it's also not cheap to import a bike. So unless it has some sentimental value, I wouldn't bother :)
LATAH
The registered owner must complete a Notice of Disposal, and it seems you may be able to do this on-line. Look at
myRTA - Notice Of Disposal
Thanks for this Ronb, it does appear that you can do this online. Perhaps, I'm being cynical but it just seems too easy....we are talking about the RTA.
Spicyayam - Thank you, also. I'll get my brother to give them a call to confirm the above.
Gilbert. I'm not familiar with the Phantom Shadow so I think I must be talking about the Phantom 200cc. A friend's son said he would look around for a motorbike for me as I've been having trouble finding the sort of thing I'm looking for here and know bugger all about bikes or the market. I told him the sort of thing I was looking for and he suggested a Honda Phantom. I Googled Honda Phantom, saw a pic and told him that would do nicely.I've seen them in Thailand - to me, they seem similar to the Honda Rebel or Nighthawk....both of which I've spent time riding and liked.
I'm after a not too expensive used cruiser style bike - 400cc or under. I'm not crazy about the more forward riding style of the Tiger's, Vixens etc. Also the pillion seat is too high for my father (not that he'll be on board often).
I've got an old Honda Rebel and a very cheap Hyosung cruiser in Cambodia. I've also just been told that a dear friend who recently died left me his Nighthawk (I'd imagine that getting paperwork changed on this would be a bit of a nightmare). An Indonesian friend told me he could get a bike imported if I had it dismantled. A Kiwi friend told me there was no need to ship it as parts as it would be coming from an ASEAN country. I keep getting conflicting advice on this.
I'm happy to leave them in Cambodia and not worry about trying to import, If I can find a suitable cruiser style bike at the right price here. In Cambo, they are everywhere and I could easily pick-up a 250cc cruiser for around US$1,000. In Australia I'd be looking at least $3,000. So, I'm hoping not more than 2K here.
Never concerned myself too much with bike condition in Cambodia as I know nothing about mechanics, have a few bikes and bush mechanics are a dime a dozen. The few problems I've ever had always seem to get magically fixed very quickly and very cheaply (usually without me ever knowing what the problem was).
I guess, It's a very different story here.... I could use any advice you'd care to throw my way.
LATAH
Wow, thanks Gilbert - great information! Sounds like, if and when I do find one, I might need to spend a little more than I was bargaining for. That's ok, I guess.
So, in a nut shell it sounds like the Phantom would be slightly easier for maintenance but it's not really a big issue. Think I'd be happy with either at this point. If you happen to see or hear of either for sale anywhere on the island would you be so kind as to let me know? My friend's son also said the Phantom would be easier to find on Java.
And yeah, I can't be stuffed with importing. Although my friend assures me he can have his office handle it all for me...Tidak apa apa.
Small chance we might go to Cambodia together in December. If this happens I might put the Hyosung in his name and tell him if he wants to handle it all and not involve me he can go for it. It would be nice to have it here but I wouldn't care that much if I lost the bike altogether - there is not much point in it being in Cambodia and it really isn't worth much. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Coolest looking bike though! I found it on my best friend's father's farm (Khmer). It was once red but was now so rustic that it looked like an antique. They gave it to me as a thank you, in return for a few things I'd been helping them with. It divided the community in Sihanoukville with half insisting that I had to restore it and the other half saying that if I touched it they'd kill me. That is, until they realised that it was just a poorly looked after cheap Hyosung and not some antique Harley or something. Cheap Hysosung or not, I sat firmly in the don't touch it camp.
Again, thanks for your info. It really has helped! Cheers.
Fred2
I'm with gilbert go for the Kaiser Ruby 250cc, I have been thinking of changing one to a Harley, its got to be easier than buying a Harley over here.:icon_mrgreen:
Fred2
Latah have a look on tokobagus.com, look under harley. Importing is not that hard if you want to pay tax but the real problem is when you try & get rego the fun starts.
Gilbert I was just thinking, pay s/h Ruby 20,000,000 push it into the back shed, Build a nice chopper frame bring in s/h harley engine & gear box. put the fuel tank,vin & engine No from the Ruby, Custom bike for under 100,000,000.00. I think that is a fair price, I don't like standard bikes so I'm happy to play.
gilbert de jong
Fred2 wroteI'm with gilbert go for the Kaiser Ruby 250cc, I have been thinking of changing one to a Harley, its got to be easier than buying a Harley over here.:icon_mrgreen:
hahahaha...better buy a second hand harley fred2. If you really are thinking of putting a (minimal) 883cc engine into a kaiser frame...I am affraid we will be reading your obituary in the java post..something like "Expat goes airborne after exploding kaiser frame", then that news gets posted here on balipod, and alot of members upset again :highly_amused:
No but seriously fred2, you're in surabaya right?
if you want I can hook you up with the HDCI overthere.
Making sure you won't buy some scrapmetal harley bike :icon_wink:
it might be good for business too, investing in a Harley that is..
I know I have made some pretty influential friends over the last couple years just by joining a M.C. :icon_mrgreen:
LATAH
Hi Glibert & Fred2
I checked out the Ruby and even did Google search for a second hand Ruby on the isle (not very fruitful).
I did find the Bali chapter of the ROC (Ruby Owner Club) and was thinking of posting on the forum for a second hand Ruby 250V-Twin. Do you think the ROC guys will be as influential as the Harley Club guys? ....Maybe influential in waiting.
Speaking of influential, the guy who wanted to help me import my bike is a very influential type. He assures me he could bring it very cheaply and I have good reason not to doubt him. Like I said, all being well and if we happen to be in Cambo together in few months. I will let him try but only in his own name...I'm sure he won't want to bother after seeing my masquerading Hyosung.
Speaking of airborne motorbikes: Did either of you happen to see the link I posted on the Art of napping thread about flying motorbikes? How good would one of these be in Bali!! If they ever come out, I'm getting one even if I have to sell the house. I reckon, it would be able to do Uluwatu to Canggu in less than five minutes. If you missed it and want to have a look here it is:
Chris Malloy hoverbike: Helicopter pilot invents world's 1st flying motorbike in his garage | Mail Online
LATAH
[b]Friend in Jakarta trying to find me a bike - Steed or Phantom?[/b]
Hi Gilbert.
My friend (the one that offered to have my bike imported) is in Jakarta and is going to try to find a bike for me.
Have you ridden both the Steed and Phantom? Wondering which one would be more comfortable after a few hours in the saddle?
At the moment, I'm leaning towards the Steed and think I will ask him to concentrate his efforts on this....unless you have any other food for thought?
My bike in Australia gives me a numb bum after a long ride and I want something more comfortable.
Cheers and thanks again.
gilbert de jong
fred2...aha...sepeda motor pake 'surat nikah' :highly_amused:
yeah you're in surabaya, a bit more available there then here on Bali.
overhere no powdercoat-er, no good chromer, forget about finding a mechanic/benchworker who can build a good strong kube-frame or tube-frame for that matter, hahaha.
Would love to come over 'kapan2' and help you with the ruby/harley project...
ooooeee, just got an idea...why not build a kaiser/harley trike :)
LATAH
You are my bike Guru....THANK YOU so much Gilbert. Fingers crossed he can find a Steed.
gilbert de jong
Hi Latah,
I have ridden the honda steed, the phantom I have never ridden.
but seating position (original) is pretty similar, heigth and length of the bike too..just the steed is a bit heavier, but not noticeable when driving or scary when having to come to a complete stop. The height of the saddle is low enough that even 'short' legs can easily reach the ground and keep the bike stable.
Why I wrote original above, is because some have forward controls fitted, meaning your legs are more in a straightened position forward to reach rearbrake and gear shifter.
It also gives a more 'in' the bike feeling, rather then 'on' the bike, if you know what I mean?
for longer rides I think I would prefer the steed over the phantom, just because it has a bit more power/torque...might safe your left ankle a bit of shifting gears all the time.
Oh and for the numb feeling, just change the seat :)...there are after market seats for sale with a bit more cushioning then the original seat. If you do change the seat, don't give away or sell the original seat, who knows in the future you might want to sell the bike again, and with original parts the re-sale value is higher then with aftermarket parts.
If you like the original seat, the way it looks on the bike I mean...you could try and buy a 'gel-pad'. Personally never used them, but have been told they do the job a-ok.
I am not trying to sell you a bike okey, I am just wondering how much would you want to spend on either the steed or the phantom?
Btw, for your friend it's easier to find a phantom then a steed, people who own a steed don't seem to be willing to sell their bike..maybe that can tell you something too.
Wichever bike he finds for you, ask him to ask the seller about the CDI...depending on buildyear that might be something to look a bit closer at.
Feel free to ask again, my pleasure to help out.
greetzz, gilbert.
gilbert de jong
:highly_amused:...you're welcome.
I have posted a question on one of my Blackberry groups, asking for a steed. If something turns up I will let you know.
rick55
Unless you need to have sale documents noterized, why don't you just have your brother sign your name as if he's you?
LATAH
Not a bad idea. Nobody would be the wiser. My brother's a bit of a stickler about these things but I'll discuss with him.
balidavo
you should try a scorpio then latah , its a cruiser , and has a more upright seating position than the tiger that youve rented, youll also be glad of the extra power on the 1st overtake of a big smokey truck , and the much cheaper price ,better handling and new bike warranty.
There has been a phantom for sale recently through the bali advertiser , but he wants about 31+ juta for it , low km but about 8 years old ..., that is if your still have your heart set on one ..., but up to you its all your call , but I do recommend against it though as getting parts will be a nusance , and for that money , there are so much better performing bikes around then that heavy clunker. Either way latah ,,,enjoy the ride and " hati -hati on the road "
