upgrade from Kitas to Kitab - in Bali

zoyra

Hi all, Has any of you done the 'upgrade' recently? I am referring to the new law (which yet needs to be implemented) - foreigners, who have been married to Indonesian for more than 2 years, are entitled to Kitab (I'm not touching the subject of 'work permit' here). There is a posting on another forum, explaining step by step the procedure - very detailed - but it was not done in Bali. So, I was wondering if any of you has any experience with the Bali immigration (or any visa agents) recently. Thanks.

BKT

Yea I wouldn't mind knowing how to do this as well, chances are no one at immigration will

gilbert de jong

BKT, where do you wanna do this, down south or up here in pemaron?

goldminer

I didnt think it was law yet guys :icon_e_confused:

BKT

gilbert de jong wroteBKT, where do you wanna do this, down south or up here in pemaron?

I've still got over a year to go but probably Pemeron, the pockets at immigration there are a little less deep.

zoyra

BKT wroteI've still got over a year to go but probably Pemeron, the pockets at immigration there are a little less deep.

What I heard today from someone who has spoken to immigration Bali is the following. If the person is married to an Indonesian (more than 2 years) and if he/she has been a Kitas holder for 2 years (sponsored by his spouse), then he/she can immediately apply for Kitab. However, not sure if this is the correct information.

sakumabali

That is the correct information (as far as I know) but does anybody knows how much this gonna cost? I mean the switch to KITAP (B?) I heard it's quite costly :icon_e_confused:

gilbert de jong

just to get it straight ok BKT..you now have a KITAS spronsored by your wife and want to change to the KITAP?

BKT

Yup, but from what Zoyra has written it looks like I'll need to wait a little longer, I only received my Kitas in March. But if thats true, who ever wants one of these new visas they'd have to go on an unpaid 2 year spouse visa first? That doesn't sound right/fair.

gilbert de jong

Okey.. will ask for the price next time when I am @ pemaron imigrasi, one of the upcoming days have to go there to start the application for my wife sponsored KITAS. I am not sure if I understand right (what do you mean with unpaid?), but yeah every KITAS-holder needs to have their KITAS for at least two years before allowed to change it to a KITAP..

goldminer

gilbert de jong wroteOkey.. will ask for the price next time when I am @ pemaron imigrasi, one of the upcoming days have to go there to start the application for my wife sponsored KITAS. I am not sure if I understand right (what do you mean with unpaid?), but yeah every KITAS-holder needs to have their KITAS for at least two years before allowed to change it to a KITAP..

What if i just want to go to KITAP Gil?

BKT

gilbert de jong wroteOkey.. will ask for the price next time when I am @ pemaron imigrasi, one of the upcoming days have to go there to start the application for my wife sponsored KITAS. I am not sure if I understand right (what do you mean with unpaid?), but yeah every KITAS-holder needs to have their KITAS for at least two years before allowed to change it to a KITAP..

Zoyra was told you need a Spouse sponsored Kitas before getting one, and seeing as though you're not legally allowed to work on a Spouse Kitas you'd be jobless/unpaid for 2 years. That doesn't sound right though, surely you would be allowed to convert a normal working Kitas to a Kitap.

BKT

goldminer wroteWhat if i just want to go to KITAP Gil?

You might want to look at getting a Spouse Visa now mate, unless you want to wait two years when you finally do move over

goldminer

BKT wroteYou might want to look at getting a Spouse Visa now mate, unless you want to wait two years when you finally do move over

Cheers Brad, will look into that.

zoyra

Hi all, I really don't want to cause a confusion. I am not an expert on this. So, here's an update (if this is the right information or not, I really don't know). I called up the visa agent we used last year for the kitas (sponsored by spouse) application. I was informed that if one is legally married with an indonesian spouse for more than 2 years and residing in Indonesia (meaning holding a sponsored by spouse kitas) for at least 2 full years - then this person is entitled to apply for a KITAB. However, it is a totally different isssue, if you are married to an indonesian spouse, but your kitas is sponsored by a company (working kitas). The duration for the processing of KITAB is about 4 months. Meaning, your passport will be taken away from you for that duration and you will not be able to leave the country. So, for us - the above is not an option at this moment due to travel plans in future. At present, no other choice except renewing the present Kitas. The price for renewal is 6 million (almost the same as for the first one). There is really a very detailed step by step on Kitab written by Atlantis on the living in indonesia forum. Not sure if I can post the link here, but whoever is interested will sure able to find it - and he's really an expert. Hope this helps.

BKT

Wait... they're charging you 6 million to extend a Spouse Kitas?

zoyra

BKT wroteWait... they're charging you 6 million to extend a Spouse Kitas?

Yes, they are charging me 6 million for extension. So, unless I find a less expensive one (but reliable) I think we will go ahead with this agent. It will take almost 4 weeks until all is done (then there is the national public holiday and hari raya). If you have a recommendation, let me know. Thanks.

BKT

Sorry Zoyra, can't say I know anyone, my wife and I deal with immigration ourselves and pay whats on the board, My Kitas cost me around 1.1mill all up. I've heard the extension is even cheaper and easier to get.

gilbert de jong

BKT wroteZoyra was told you need a Spouse sponsored Kitas before getting one, and seeing as though you're not legally allowed to work on a Spouse Kitas you'd be jobless/unpaid for 2 years. That doesn't sound right though, surely you would be allowed to convert a normal working Kitas to a Kitap.

if you hold a working kitas for two years in a row with the same employer, you could apply for a KITAP with workpermit. Only thing is that if the company you work for goes bust, so does your kitap. you can't change fro"forced to be un-employed" for two years... @goldminer, you can't go straight for a KITAP, first get the KITAS sponsored by wife and before you can get that, you get the sosbud sponsored by wife. In the period of 6months of this sosbud start the application for getting the KITAS...after 6 months you don't have to leave the country to pick up your kitas abroad, ofcourse you can but you would have to let them (imigrasi) know where abroad you want to pick it up. btw, haven't had time yet to check out that school, sorry mate..but will do so ASAP. about prices..."no hassles" price for the spouse kitas, "no hassle" meaning just bring your passport and wife's KTP and weddingcertificate, 5jt for local pick up...3jt for abroad pickup. maybe expensive (?), but no hassles like sending in letters yourself going to get signatures from there bring that back, etcetc...