rasi
This has kinda been asked here, but do any of you send your kids to a 'local school'? My biggest money worry about moving to Bali is school fees. I have thought about sending my kids to a local school? They are half Indonesian though, so they wont look out of place too much!
But I have no idea about school and what they teach at a local school compared to an "international' school... Obviously their schooling would not be up to scratch if they wanted to move to Oz and go to Uni/get a job etc... but surely they can do a year 12 Tafe course first?
I don't want to home school them....But what is everyone's opinion of the local schools?? Are they really that bad? My husband seems to think the kids would be kidnapped.... hahaha
mat
rasi wroteThis has kinda been asked here, but do any of you send your kids to a 'local school'? My biggest money worry about moving to Bali is school fees. I have thought about sending my kids to a local school? They are half Indonesian though, so they wont look out of place too much!
But I have no idea about school and what they teach at a local school compared to an "international' school... Obviously their schooling would not be up to scratch if they wanted to move to Oz and go to Uni/get a job etc... but surely they can do a year 12 Tafe course first?
I don't want to home school them....But what is everyone's opinion of the local schools?? Are they really that bad? My husband seems to think the kids would be kidnapped.... hahaha
I fully intend to send mine to a local school. Look around you, the kids haven't turned out that bad, have they?
There is plenty of opportunity for further education here [if needed].
Vin
Taman Rama school, runs both International and National programmes. They have a good mix of foreign and local students. Fees are reasonable too. Check out:
Taman Mahatma Gandhi Foundation | Taman Rama Schools in Denpasar & Jimbaran Bali
gilbert de jong
I have no kids yet...but what I know (not that much) teaching/learning is a matter of positive motivation, along ofcourse with the quality/knowledge of the teachers...
The 'local' schools I have visited, lack both...so when/if I would be so lucky to have children, I very much doubt I would put tem into a 'local' school.
There probably are local-schools with a good track record, I just haven't been to one
rasi
mat wroteI fully intend to send mine to a local school. Look around you, the kids haven't turned out that bad, have they?
There is plenty of opportunity for further education here [if needed].
Yes I agree! My husband (obviously) went to school in Java and he is smarter than me!
I guess I will have to look around and see what I can find because there is no way I can afford most of the schools in Bali! But I kind of like the idea of a local school :)
gilbert de jong
rasi wrotethere is no way I can afford most of the schools in Bali! But I kind of like the idea of a local school :)
You've hit the nail on the head (sorry to say), but lack of money is the reason why an expat would send their kids to a local school.
as for mat's comment "look around you, they haven't turned out that bad"...
I don't know where you're looking, but we are not looking into the same direction :icon_lol:
mat
gilbert de jong wroteYou've hit the nail on the head (sorry to say), but lack of money is the reason why an expat would send their kids to a local school.
as for mat's comment "look around you, they haven't turned out that bad"...
I don't know where you're looking, but we are not looking into the same direction :icon_lol:
I was comparing them to the kids from the British schools, [one of the main reasons I want to bring up my children in Bali].
Seems to be too many of them killing each other. The streets are not safe with what the Brits are turning out now. My personal experience of schools and the kids in England also makes me want to educate my kids elsewhere. I see so much violence on the streets even in the small village I am from. Had one teenage death already this year from an unprovoked attack. I went to so called good schools many of them fee paying.
Jimbo
If they can afford it many Indonesian parents send their children to fee paying schools. Says a lot for the state schools :icon_rolleyes:
mat
[b]Can you educate at home?[/b]
I was wondering if you can teach your children at home? I have met many Balinese who have only spent a few years in the system here and then left [some as young as 11].
Just curious if anyone knows the law on this. I would love to play a big part in the education of my children, I certainly will have the time.
spicyayam
I don't know the law, but I think the socialization aspect of going to school, making friends etc, is why I would want my kids to go to school rather than be home schooled.
gilbert de jong
In Indonesia there's a law that says every child should go to school for a minimum of 9 years, that would be SD and SMP.
Netherlands for example has something similar but duration is 12 years, don't know about England?
And this law is enforced.....
in Indonesia to no-ones surprise this law is not enforced (as so many other laws)
Why children don't go to a selokah 'negara' but to an sekolah 'swasta' could also be that their grades are not up too par for admitance at registration to a sekolah negara.
@mat..and I thought the most dangerous of English schools was the cantine-food :icon_wink:
just joking, I understand what you mean :icon_e_smile:
@spicyayam..I too think that interacting with other children is very important..
Pa_Yan
rasi wroteThis has kinda been asked here, but do any of you send your kids to a 'local school'? My biggest money worry about moving to Bali is school fees. I have thought about sending my kids to a local school? They are half Indonesian though, so they wont look out of place too much!
But I have no idea about school and what they teach at a local school compared to an "international' school... Obviously their schooling would not be up to scratch if they wanted to move to Oz and go to Uni/get a job etc... but surely they can do a year 12 Tafe course first?
I don't want to home school them....But what is everyone's opinion of the local schools?? Are they really that bad? My husband seems to think the kids would be kidnapped.... hahaha
Instead of an "international school" your children could go to a national plus school. There are many around. My daughter goes to DCC ( Denpasar Children Centre ) and she likes it a lot. The students are a mix between local and expat children. The facilities are good, like they have a pool and there is security. I can't really judge the classes, as she is in her second year and is my only child. I do know there's a lot of homework ( even for a 7 year old ). The cost are around 10 juta a year, so not too expensive.
diveguru
[b]Why I don't......[/b]
Having visited a few local schools and seen the teaching methods I am really loathe to send my son to one.... He is of school age now and I am currently home teaching.
One of the main problems that I see is that much of the learning is centred on learning by rote instead of nurturing creative thinking and problem solving. A case of "sit down and shut up". I think that many of the people that I know here have excelled and grown despite their education instead of because of it.
I make sure that he has lots of playtime with other kids so that he gets that all important socialisation.
fingers crossed I will be able to lure a teacher to East Bali soon, start a small school and then all my problems will be solved!! Well, education wise anyway!!
Julesie
I don't know what the laws are now, but 10 years ago, ex-pats and Indos (mixed) weren't allowed to go to local schools. A group of discontent mothers set up their own not-for-profit school in Kerobokan as a result (this is now an international - but still not-for-profit - school called Sunrise School). Now there are national plus schools and international, but most of the national plus schools are just as expensive, if not more than some of the international schools.
Julesie
Julesie wroteI don't know what the laws are now, but 10 years ago, ex-pats and Indos (mixed) weren't allowed to go to local schools. A group of discontent mothers set up their own not-for-profit school in Kerobokan as a result (this is now an international - but still not-for-profit - school called Sunrise School). Now there are national plus schools and international, but most of the national plus schools are just as expensive, if not more than some of the international schools.
ooo.. just remembered seeing some Indo kids at a local school... so I guess it is OK... but I have to agree with DiveGuru on the ROTE learning... Indonesians are great with facts, but they are not taught to question.
kayoticlaudia
Julesie wroteIndonesians are great with facts, but they are not taught to question.
I think this is a common failing in many schools - even here in Germany! I'm amazed at how many kids don't question the things they are told!
I home schooled my daughter for two years - for one because of the fees and two because I did not want to live down south. Now she is back in a regular German school but I see a lot of things that are lacking as compared to the home schooling. In just two years my daughter learned to read and write both German and English. She started grade 5 in an American home school curriculum. That says a lot for the German public school system.
My niece goes to a public SD (East Bali) and when I have the time I teach her extra things like reading and writing in English and now starting on reading in German. She is one smart cookie!
So if local school I would suggest extra hour of private studies if the kid is up to it.....
Julesie
I really, honestly believe that school is to learn HOW to learn (rather than the content) and about social skills. I think the reading, writing and mathematical strategies taught are important foundations, but in the older years (upper primary and secondary school), it is really learning about citizenship, social responsibilities and how to find the answers to problems.
I am actually a teacher, but I honestly believe that kids learn more by experiencing real-life (supported by a curriculum with predictive and reflective learning techniques), than they would in a traditional classroom. Schooling - home or traditional (or any other), is only as good as the teacher and the support provided by home. I know people that move their kids around schools according to the teacher that their kids will be having. It will be interesting to see how those kids turn out.
Markit
Dave you are in for a world of pain and expenses. The people you need to talk with are the Ozzies here as Australia has a long history of home schooling their kids where the nearest neighbor was an airplane flight away from their station.
Home schooling isn't for the weak or busy as it requires a level of dedication from both student and teacher that most families can't bring to the party or least wise, not for the years and years it will take.
I can really recommend the International Baccalaureate if you intend the sprog to have a life in the west without having to wash other people's windows.
Fred2
I would think Surabaya has more International schools than Bali, including the Surabaya European School. I don't think Surabaya has any of the tree hugging schools like Bali.
Nydave
Hey Fed,thanks for the info,i did a search for international schools in Surabaya andcouldnt find much,i did see Sis and when I researched it further I see that they use the American education system,im European but also an American citizen and without being disrespectful to my adopted country but I would never consider having my child educated under that system,its at least 5-6 years behind the European system,and also they charge around $14,000 per semester,thats more than double what it would cost if I were to take him back to Usa and educate him there,,but thanks again I will check out the European school
