Sunman
hi there allme and my wife have been coming to Lombok for 4 years.. and like most have fallen in love.we would like to buy land and build in the Sengiggi area or Mangsit. can any of you give me contacts of people who can help.. buying laws and owning etc. any of you built your pros and cons would be very helpful..cheers :D
Bert Vierstra
Welcome Sunman,You probably find a lot of info on owning property in Indonesia in this section : [u][brl=http://balipod.com/owning-property-bali-f43/:cjsjitku]Owning Property in Bali[/brl:cjsjitku][/u]
Sunman
hi bertjust been on that section.. I still have no confidence in the law!! would be nice to buy land or house and own it forever.. just looks like its mine for 25 years with the hope the govement will exstend?? or meet a local and hope the agreement between you will hold.. all sounds very dodgy and worrying for a english lad like me.. are you a local or bought a place in lombok, or which will help married a local??all we want to do is build a holiday home for our future and maybe retire in 20-30 years there.. buy then the law could take our dream home away!!
Bert Vierstra
Maybe you could look into long term leasing. This seems a safe option. 50 years?I am not sure I understand the rest of your question, but no, I am not a local.
FreoGirl
Hi SunmanUnfortunately for us (and perhaps fortunately for the Indonesians), you can't own land in Indonesia - so you are right - you have to find a local you can trust, or do a long term lease. Something to consider about owning a holiday home in the tropics is that maintenance is a killer. If you are not living in the house, it deteriorates very quickly in that climate. I've seen several people buy holiday homes only to sell a few years later as it is a big drain on finances and often half the holiday is taken up repairing the house and kicking out the locals (of the crawling kind). Alternatively you have a local couple live in the house as caretakers, but then there is the problem of where they go when you come for holidays (and whether they take the kind of care of the place that you would like), or you have caretakers clean the house and take care of the grounds on a regular (daily) basis - which is pretty cheap to do but doesn't solve the maintenance issue.Building is also something that you should supervise (as you would at home, but perhaps even more so to check the quality of the work - no building standards as such in Lombok). So if you are looking at buying land and building a house, then you should plan on frequent visits to check things, or an extended stay while the house is being built. A good alternative to that process is to buy an existing house. There are houses for sale in Karadangan and Batu Bolong for sure, less so in Mangsit as it doesn't have that many western style houses to start with.We have a little plot in Mangsit that we may put something on one day, maybe we will be neighbours?
Sunman
thanks all for your replys. sorry you didnt understand bert!! I was writing late at night with my 7 week old new born in my arms, who keeps me very busy when I'm home from work..myself and my wife have fallen in love with lombok.. weve stayed at villa qunci and the hotel a few times..love the place. the people are great.. when we stayed at the villa I played football every evening with the local kidds. what great fun. there football was very old so I went down town and bought a few new ones. well that was it the whole village turned up and all wanted to play football!! what a great feeling. my wife was on the the side line playing with all the young ones.england is becomming a very grumpy place. people dont have the time to say hello and cant be bovered any more. money is making people very greedy and stuck in there own little lives and not giving a damn of there surroundings. seeing how little the people on lombok have but look so happy makes you want to keep coming back for more. we live in a world where money rules.customer service in england is very very bad the only time you tend to get good service is when you spend lots of money. this is why someday we wish to own a property in lombok. a place in paradise!! but from reading all your posts this seems very hard. one of the guys who works in qunci hotel became a good friend. he keeps texting me about building plots for 30,000 dollars in the mangsit area, or sengiggi. sounds cheap. I'm a builder in england and my wife is a dentist so both have good trades. we could only come a few times a year, so maybe buy a new build that is already built? my thought on the maintenence would be to employ locals. they seem to be cheap, can you trust them? all the guys round the hotel work very hard for there money..cheers
FreoGirl
one of the guys who works in qunci hotel became a good friend. he keeps texting me about building plots for 30,000 dollars in the mangsit area, or sengiggi[/quote]I guess it depends on how much land you are talking about for 30K. If it is 5 are (500 sq metres) then that is expensive for the area (roughly 55 Million per are), If it is 1000 sq metres then it is more like the going rate.You also need to be aware that the land is unlikely to have utilities. You know that big house right on the beach between Qunci and Holiday Inn? It was built about 3-4 years ago. Last I heard they are STILL without power supply and have to rely on generators. I know another couple who bought land up the hill, not as far up as Qunci villa, and they have been unable to find water on the land - despite several drillings and all sorts of other methods. In fact they had to buy more land, and pay for a road to be built, just to get a truck up there to drill. You have to have a well in that area as the town water supply is irregular at best. I lived in Mangsit and the water was off more than it was on. Our neighbours without a well had to fill up tanks from our well.Not meaning to sound negative, hey I want to live there again one day too, but just wanted to let you know some of the problems so you have your eyes open.The guy that keeps texting you stands to make commission on any land deal if you buy. Nothing wrong with that, but you know how persistant they need to be just to sell you a wood carving, imagine how persistant they are if the stakes are so much higher. Feel free to send me a pm if you are serious about buying any of the land in that area, my husband will probably know the land in question and a bit of its background (ownership, who lives around it, potential problems). CheersFreo
Sunman
hi freogirl. what is the meaning of that name?thanks for your reply. very helpfull! always good to knw someone in the know as we say in the uk. do u live in lombok now?as for building I think we would buy newly built. as we cant come over much. takes a whole day to get there. do you know of any new builds going on. 2-3 bedroom villas with a pool we are looking to buy one day. theres some lovely ones in bali! really modern...cheers sunman
FreoGirl
Hi Sunman,hi freogirl. what is the meaning of that name?[/quote]I'm from the city of Fremantle in Western Australia. Locally we call it Freo. I'm a girl. = Freogirl.thanks for your reply. very helpfull! always good to knw someone in the know as we say in the uk. do u live in lombok now?[/quote]No, we live in Fremantle at the moment - planning on returning to Indonesia to live soon. I will be in Lombok in a couple of weeks time for a holiday and family visit (MAN it feels good to write that!).as for building I think we would buy newly built. as we cant come over much. takes a whole day to get there. do you know of any new builds going on. 2-3 bedroom villas with a pool we are looking to buy one day. theres some lovely ones in bali! really modern...[/quote].Villa development is also happening in Lombok, not as prolific as Bali (thank God). There are some new developments around the Senggigi / Mangsit area - if I see anything really interesting I will let you know.Freo
Sunman
freogirlyou lucky lucky bugger.. I'm soooooooooo jelous..have agreat time. where are you staying?and yes if you see anything let me knw..thankssunman
