bakso
Hi everyone
This is my 1st post so before i start i'll introduce myself
I'm Bakso a 35 year old Aussie with a Indonesian wife [Javanese]
Now i was wondering what sort of money AUD or rp we would expect to pay for land [per are] in Bali within a 1/2 hr drive of Kuta Denpasar Seminyak type of areas that we could build on [for holidays at the moment with a view to becoming our permanant residence in future]
and also a ballpark figure to build a nice yet simple 2 or 3 bedroom home of brick and tile any advice would be much appreciated
Do's and don'ts what to look out for tips and or bad experiences
Thanks in advance
Bakso
Roy
Welcome to the forum Bakso, and good luck with your dreams and plans to live on Bali. To answer your first question, how is the best way to go about buying land in Bali…the only way to “buy” land here (Hak Milik land certificate) for you would be through your Indonesian wife, assuming she has retained her Indonesian citizenship.
Land [per are] in Bali within a 1/2 hr drive of Kuta, Denpasar or Seminyak covers a whole lot of territory, and as you might expect, a whole range in pricing, as in anywhere from 30 million per are (if even possible anymore), to over 200 million per are depending on those magical words, location, location, location.
Your best bet to get any sort of realistic idea of costs in those areas is to look at existing properties as listed and easily found on the internet, or better yet, take a trip over here, find a real estate agent or two, and start beating the ground.
Cheers, and as I said, good luck with your plans.
mimpimanis
I enquired about some land up at Balangan recently. Dirt road access but a beautiful spot. Rp80million per are.
terryputumarsh
Hi Bakso,
My advice is better you buy the property and already building in there but you have to check of the property documents from the owner such as :
1. Certificate ( Land title )
2. IMB ( Building Permit ) ; the purpose is Residence, make sure the IMB plat on the wall
3. Building Tax , plz ask the owner of the payment receipt, so you don't need to pay the building tax
4. you have tu put a mortgage.
Not much headeach :)
Tregger
Whatever you do, go about it carefully..........
[b][size=7]Bali’s expatriate crooks and fraudsters; be warned buyers of villas[/size].[/b]
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mimpimanis
I have a feeling this will be removed and rightly so.. fairly quick!
Tregger
[quote=mimpimanis]I have a feeling this will be removed and rightly so.. fairly quick![/quote]
Tell me Mims, do you believe the article or not? I do as I have had a dealings with Barry or Lawrence or whatever he calls himself now.
Markit
I always love these articles masquerading as "advice" to the stupid. Sorry mate your article has some truth to it but, frankly, if someone is stupid enough to part with their money to these Shysters then it was only a matter of time anyway so, tough shite.
Tregger
[quote=Markit]I always love these articles masquerading as "advice" to the stupid. Sorry mate your article has some truth to it but, frankly, if someone is stupid enough to part with their money to these Shysters then it was only a matter of time anyway so, tough shite.
The length and timber of the article remind me of another contributor that "used" to be here. He thought he was ROYalty too :lol:[/quote]
Well you would be surprised how many people show up and give this guy money, he is still quite well known in Bali for selling properties just google Bali real estate, this guy has appx. 20 websites under his command that popup and when someone contacts the website they are going straight to him.
As for Royalty, I am a Johnny Reb..........
mimpimanis
[quote]Tell me Mims, do you believe the article or not? I do as I have had a dealings with Barry or Lawrence or whatever he calls himself now.[/quote]
I dont believe or disbelieve it...one persons post is not enough for me to make a judgement on. My comment was that it will be removed because of the possible legal implications.
Tregger
[quote=mimpimanis][quote]Tell me Mims, do you believe the article or not? I do as I have had a dealings with Barry or Lawrence or whatever he calls himself now.[/quote]
I dont believe or disbelieve it...one persons post is not enough for me to make a judgement on. My comment was that it will be removed because of the possible legal implications.[/quote]
True Mims, but tis site has the same article up for almost 20/2 months and Captain Lawrence has not said anything, the article is true
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sydneymike
I have friends who live in Sanur, with whom i sometimes stay when I come to Bali. This guy apparently lives in Sanur and was pointed out to me in a restaurant as being a crook, so it seems to be a well accepted fact in Sanur. There does seem to be enough info on the net to confirm that this guy stole from widows and orphans in Hawaii and was convicted in absentia of fraud and required to pay USD 4.5 Million in fines. Not yet paid. There are some stories in Bali that he has "Sold" the same villas many times over using lease agreements to obfuscate ownership, but this is just heresay in fairness.
Tregger
Mike, do you know an American named Tom Irwin in Sanur?
sydneymike
No I don't, and I don't spend a lot of time there. It's too quiet for me, I just stayed there with a friend whilst my place was being buit.
Tregger
He is not a bad man if you ever run in to him down there, knows Lawrence Bellafonte well, drives a 7 series BMW (only bad point about the man).
ronb
An interesting thread even though I missed what was edited out. I just Googled Lawrence Bellafonte and you find some real estate sites that look pretty good, you also find sites warning you of his "past", but I think one of these sites (BaliBS.com) is linked with Mark Austin, so its a bit like a pot calling the kettle black.
So if your first step in seeking real estate was to find one of his sites, it looks good, second step is to meet him, presumably he comes across well, then the third step would be to seek feedback from other customers. I suggest this is the all important step to take very seriously.
Tregger
[quote=ronb]An interesting thread even though I missed what was edited out. I just Googled Lawrence Bellafonte and you find some real estate sites that look pretty good, you also find sites warning you of his "past", but I think one of these sites (BaliBS.com) is linked with Mark Austin, so its a bit like a pot calling the kettle black.
So if your first step in seeking real estate was to find one of his sites, it looks good, second step is to meet him, presumably he comes across well, then the third step would be to seek feedback from other customers. I suggest this is the all important step to take very seriously.[/quote]
Not sure if I would take that advice, Captain Lawrence or Barry Bellefonte has had alot of practice.......
Bert Vierstra
Not sure if I would take all the gossip so seriously.
AFAIK I know the guy has sold a lot of real estate. I have met a few clients of him, and they were not complaining. Of course there will be unsatisfied people or people who feel otherwise mistreated. This happens. And I am sure this has happened more in Bali. Not only with him.
sydneymike
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/artic ... 60348.html
Not sure about all the other names, but this from a mainstream US newspaper. Don't know about you, but I would be nervous about buying
anything from a guy who stole Millions of dollars from widows and orphans, then fled the US in a 50 foot yacht whilst running away from a USD 4.5 Million penalty in the US? People do tend to revert to type.
But you may be right.
Bert Vierstra
I don't know what happened there, and I am not defending him.
But if you can steal millions in the US and live happily ever after in Bali, well it may get busy here. :D
