Tim COLLINS
Hi expats.I understand there are the( bigger type ) fishing boats that tourists can hire out. I wonder, is there a business in Bali where a tourist can rent out a small 2 person boat on an hourly basis. Obviously it would have to be somewhere on the coast where there is no surf.Just a fleeting business idea that I thought about today.In Seaford, Melbourne Australia, where I live, you can go down to the beach/cove and rent a boat for about 18 AUD an hour. I was thinking is there a market for the small 2/3 person fishing boat rental business in Bali.All thoughts and comments would be much appreciated.
Roy
Fishing...this is very near and dear to my heart. Shore casting, small boat bottom, lure or bait casting, and when the pockets are full enough for pre dawn to post dusk deep sea adventures for the "big boys"....YES it can all be done in Bali.The "big boy" deep sea fishing ventures here are most all located in Benoa. Given the horrendous fuel increases, (thank you Pertamina....arragh)...the cost for a fully equipped deep sea fishing vessel, enough for six fisherpersons (no longer a male only sport) is not much unlike what you would pay anywhere else in the world...viz Florida Keys, Bermuda, the Caribbean, etc. That would be about US $600 to $900 for the day, depending on the boat and "provisions" (i.e beer), needed on board, as well as how far out from Benoa you want to fish.In all honesty though, and this is something I have never written about before, is my excursions armed with a simple salt water spinning reel on a fly rod, with five pound test line, and with the boys who head out from the shores of north and east Bali every day on their out rigged classic Balinese boats. This IS fishing, as I like it anyway. While the boys either line or net fish, I can sit there and angle to my wildest dreams. It's the best fishing experience I have ever had anywhere, and I have fished in many parts of this world, both fresh and salt water.For one to do this, we (bule) has to have TOTAL sun block and a whole lot of it! Keep your baseball hat home...wear a large brimmed straw hat. One is also smarter to stock bottled water, and leave the beer for when you return. It is brutal out there, and the boys will not be bringing their boats home until well after sunset. Pack a small cooler packed to the gills with fresh fruit and bottled water, and be sure to share it with the boys. This is my idea of the best of fishing. While I'm out there having tremendously good fun and sport, I always keep in mind that the boys are out there to make a living. That is most important to keep in mind. I've never heard of a tour operator arranging this kind of fishing. I've always just done it on my own. But who knows Tim...it may be that I've just planted a seed for thought. PS...in case anyone is wondering about my motive by posting this, I assure you that there are none. However, aside from tourist pictures taken of these skilful fishermen of Bali, they are entirely "out of the loop" of the tourism dollars. Think about it.
Tim
What kind of fish do you catch in fresh water and from salt water?Tim
Roy
I've never fished fresh water in Bali, but I will say that when I send out a cry for sawah eel, in a few hours, I have more than I could ever use. They are ugly critters, and are either caught by hand or net, but when cooked properly, pepes style or fried, they are amazingly good.Salt water? You name it, it is here. My personal favorites are yellow tailed tuna and Spanish Mackerel, or tengerri. Butterfish also abound here if you like bottom like fish, and they are like their name. They are heads and heal over the best Summer or Winter flounder you can imagine. The list of salt water fish to be found in Balinese waters is endless...and I mean that. Just do a Google or Yahoo search and you will be amazed. I'll tell you this though...hooking on a 3 kilo tengerri with a fly rod and a salt water spinning reel with 5 pound, (2.5 kilo) test line off of a local Balinese fishing boat is a fisherman's best dream come true. Your rod will be bending over like a lady begging for it, and you had better pay attention to the drag setting on your reel, as they can easily put 20 or more pounds on your line and pole in a heart beat twist and turn. Hu Hah! That's fishing and it costs next to nothing. So that's it. Don't ask me about bait, the tides, places or times, as that would be asking me way, way too much.
Tim
Sounds like you are an avid saltwater fisherman Roy, I love to fish as well but just don't get the time anymore. Am interested to learn what a "Tengerri" is so I'll look that up........Tim
Roy
Tim, no need to bother as I already told you what tengirri is, viz: and Spanish Mackerel, or tengerri. [/quote]And yes, I love salt water fishing, having grown up on the Connecticut shore of Long Island Sound, and thank the Gods...well before it became polluted.
Tim
I'm afraid that pollution is a big problem everywhere. The Northwest and Puget Sound is a great area but pollution is affecting the sealife just as in your home state.....sure hope we get our heads out of the sand before it's too late. Yeah, your right, Mackerel on light tackel would be fun.....hope to try fishing in Bali some day soon.Tim
Tim COLLINS
Hi RoyThanks for the reply regarding fishing boats - Yes there is scope for development in the Balinese fishing boat experience in the tourist/money making area [though I'm sure it would take a bit of work]. Utilising Balinese fishing boats would give a more cultural experience as opposed to the Western boat 'set up'. it must be a fantastic experience to take the journey out into the waters on a Balinese fishing boat. Yes the Balinese are very generous in spirit. I'm sure for an appropriate fee, all parties would be happy. As you suggest, it would bring Balinese fisherman into the tourist/money loop. "Fish for thought"!Regards Tim Collins from Melbourne
rickerw
Very interesting. My idea is to fish from shore, in the surf, or from a small boat I could hire and row myself or go out with some Balinese guys- not paying too much. I have done a lot of fly fishing and taught in a great fly fishing school with Lee Wulff back in the 80's. I also have a lot of spinning gear- light weight and heavier gear for surf fishing. Looking forward to experiment/exploring... Ricker
ferdie
I think its a good idea, but you will need to improved the safety factors and it would be costly.Let us know if you decided to open it, my family loves to fish:listening_headphone
mugwump
[b]Fishing discussion at get together June 30th,[/b]Very interesting. My idea is to fish from shore, in the surf, or from a small boat I could hire and row myself or go out with some Balinese guys- not paying too much. I have done a lot of fly fishing and taught in a great fly fishing school with Lee Wulff back in the 80's. I also have a lot of spinning gear- light weight and heavier gear for surf fishing. Looking forward to experiment/exploring... Ricker[/QUOTE]You are mentioning things close to my heart, and hope we can talk a bit on June 30th. Too much to get into here, but am also ardent fly fisherman with gear, live close the surf and have surf casting gear as well. Hope to see you and any others interested in the topic.
