nomad4ever
I was recently in the situation to assess the existing internet options in Bali, to chose what is best to spend my bucks on.
Spent quite a lot of time and effort to check it all up and compare the different providers and options.
If anyone is interested, here is the roundup:
http://www.nomad4ever.com/2007/01/03/roundup-of-isps-internet-service-providers-in-bali/
If you know of any more providers and cheaper/better options, please let me know!
I'm heavily interested to reduce my internet expenses.
Thanks,
mimpimanis
[b]RE: Roundup of ISP[/b]
I was very interested to read this. However in some of your cons you state "Not available anywhere" did you mean not availlable everywhere?
Thanks
nomad4ever
[b]RE: Roundup of ISP[/b]
I'm sorry for that mistake. My english doesn't work that well in combination with red wine or beer bintang. Will change that right away! ;-)
matahari
[b]RE: Roundup of ISP[/b]
My first post in a long time now.. =) Maybee an odd question... but is there anyone who tried to download from DC++ or Bittorrent? what speed (Kib/s) is possible to obtain? I guess it won´t be any fast but it would be interesting to know anyways.. =)
Lee
I had a look at the Indosat M2 web page and it says that there is a Rp 100/minute local tariff fee for the dial up access. From what I can see this isn’t accounted for in the total cost breakdown given, so would bring the hourly rate up to close what Telkom charge per hour.
Please correct me of I am wrong.
nomad4ever
[b]RE: Roundup of ISP[/b]
From my perspective this is only, if you dial the nation-wide number 0809 88 001. For the local number (Bali's is 20456) and when using the packet deal, it shouldn't be the case. Even for the plain dial-up service (not package deal, the hourly rate is stated at 2.850 Rp.) If they add here another 100 Rp/minute, that would look suspicious for sure.
As I didn't receive a bill yet (just signed up a few days ago) I can't say for sure of course.
I will monitor that and will update the info, when getting my first bill.
Lee
I’m not 100% sure, but I think that the 100 Rp / min is what Telkom charge and not Indosat. Even if you call the local number in Bali it is through a telkom line to get the Internet access, so therefore there will be a charge by them.
Anyway I hope you’re right and I am wrong.
nomad4ever
RE: Roundup of ISP
Ohhh, that would be really terrible. Where did you read this with the 100 Rp/min for Telkom at the IndosatM2 website?
I only know this site here:
http://www.indosatm2.com/index.php/serv ... tdialup/en
that's where I subscribed as well. Do you have any other website?
Hmmmm, I better don't surf that much then this month, to avoid any nasty surprises..... ;-)
Lee
As I said I’m not 100% sure on this, I checked the same web page as you and it only mentions the access fee of 100 rp a minute (no mention of Telkom). I just assumed it would be them and not Indosat making the extra charge.
Keep us informed.
Roy
Lots of laughs Phil reading your post, and happy new year to you too.
In reality, my e-mail is set to block all incoming e-mails with an attached file greater than 500k in size. If I am really curious, I can have a closer look on the Centrin internet site at my blocked e-mails and decide if it’s worth the time (to download) or not.
As I said, the internet is primarily business for me...no songs, no video, and no 3d photos (sorry Bert). I pay no more than approximately 200 thousand rupiah a month to get the job done...including lots of posts here.
For me, the internet means business, except of course for my time here and other places! :P
To each his own, and my hammer is working just fine!
nomad4ever
[b]RE: Roundup of ISP[/b]
Hey guys,
thanks for the valuable information of longterm residents. Makes me a bit more concerned about the coming monthly bill.
Maybe am just a bit spoiled with my last accomodation in Phuket/Thailand, where I practically had 512K Wireless access included in the rental price of my apartment, which was per se very low. So I had basically "always on/unlimited bandwidth". So it's even harder right now to accept, why I should shell out 1 Mio. Rupiah/month for a mere sh*tty dial-up service.
I can't have Speedy, as I have a digital (modern!) phone number. Haha!
But okay, guess for my blog, e-mail and the occasional picture download I will somehow survive with it. Arglglgglg! :)
jogry blok
[b]RE: Roundup of ISP[/b]
Happy new year to you all.
We use satelite connection, unlimited use for 1 juta
nomad4ever
[b]RE: Roundup of ISP[/b]
@ Sanurian,
I think as well, that Speedy is the best value for money around. Naturally I wanted to apply for it, but am not eligible. As posted on my website, you can only have Speedy, if your telephone line number starts with a 7. Not an 8.
The 7xxxxxxxxx numbers are connected to an old analogue interchange and therefore eligible to use with ADSL (Speedy).
The newer 8xxxxxxxx numbers are basically fibre optics lines, which go to a digital interchange, which don't allow ADSL to be send over those lines.
I only found out about it, after I rented our house for 1 year.
Tough luck! ;-)
Roy
Oh gee Phil, I guess what you are about to tell me is that which has worked for me in all these past years has somehow not worked for others...meaning you?
Our average monthly telephone bill runs about 100K a month...internet use and all else considered including my wife’s family compound.
We use both Centrin numbers in our dial up modem. Even on the worst of days, one works sooner or later. Again, as I wrote before, for me this is all about getting the job done. So long as that happens, I am happy and that is it.
Funny it is, to me anyway how so many folks have opinions on this topic, and don’t even live here in Bali.
Sorry Phil, but we live in Ubud, :P Things in Sanur are totally diifferent, and it's your world, to be sure.
Sanurian
[b]RE: Roundup of ISP[/b]
I'll look into it further, [b]nomad4ever[/b], when I can.
But my phone number starts with a [b]2[/b]. So what does [b]that[/b] mean in the scheme of things?
No problem - I get more confused on a daily basis. In fact, if I wake up one day un-confused, I'll start to really worry.
:D
Roy
[quote]No problem - I get more confused on a daily basis. In fact, if I wake up one day un-confused, I'll start to really worry. [/quote]
This is of course very easy to do when one is surviving on a disability pension. :shock:
Roy
Well, as an eight year internet user and resident of Ubud, relying on the internet for our business, I have can only say that in the end, Centrin and Telkom, with only dial up connections, have always, in the end, found for me what I needed to get the job done. Very early on, even Indosat was occasionally “employed” out of total desperation.
While that means that very often I was working on-line from 1 to 5 AM to get a better modem dial up speed for all my uploads, and downloads, the undeniable fact is, I was able to get it done.
I guess what bothers, or frustrates the dickens out of me is that I only regard the internet and e-mail as a tool. My mentality on this is based not unlike that of a carpenter. For him, if his hammer worked, and worked well, why consider a new or modified hammer?
Moreover, I will freely admit that I do not embrace changes to my routine with open arms, and I am immediately suspicious of new hardware/software, that are sometimes presented to me as a means to make my “computer life” easier.
My computer “guru” a Chinese/Indonesian friend in Denpasar, who I have known for many years seems to embrace the psychology of each and every computer user that he can call a client. He is brilliant in that he listens very intently to what his clients say they need, maybe think they need, and he can tell the difference.
As when dealing with any increase in over-head costs of doing business, my computer is not regarded beyond any other over-head expenses. “Keeping up with the Jones’s” has no appeal to me, especially when it comes to the tools of my trade.
Lee
Has anyone got or heard of the Xplore 3g package? I just heard about if today and checked it on the website.
http://www.xl.co.id/Program_Promosi/Pro ... plor_3G/1/ (only in Indonesian though)
For Rp1,300.000 (plus tax) you get a data card for your computer, there is a discount if you subscribe to one of their packages which are:
Mega package: Rp 99,000/month for 250 MB free, anything over that is 400 rp /10kb
Giga Package: Rp 499,000/month for 3 giga free, over and above that is as above.
The speed is around 365/kps.
I would be interested to hear if any one is using it.
Sanurian
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That's great of you [b]Roy[/b]
To show your true colours.
You hate Balinese dogs and you have no time for pensioners, "disabled" or otherwise.
[b]Take a look at yourself[/b].
[u]Your last comment was totally uncalled for.
[/u]
A few keywords here so the [i]Google-bot[/i] can pick up on them:
"bigot - know-it-all - clandestine racist - bullshit artist - aggressive conqueror - insensitive - talented ignoramus - sexist", etc.
I tried not to post this but you managed to piss me off, big time. I hope you're happy.
:evil:
nomad4ever
[b]RE: Roundup of ISP[/b]
Oha! What a discussion.
@ Sanurian, I don't know, what the number 2 means. Maybe it's an old analogue fixed line number as well?
I got only explained this 7 and 8 thingy by several Telkom employees in Denpasar and Kerobokan.
@ Lee, this Xplore 3G sounds interesting. Have to check that out in more detail. Though it has the high-initial-price-bomb as well as a downside.
Hm....