Chris A
[URL]https://indonesiaexpat.id/news/indonesian-immigration-launches-hotline-to-report-foreigners-suspicious-activities/[/URL]
harryopal1
I see a side article in that link referring back to passengers being able to bring 2.25 litres alcohol duty free at the beginning of 2022. What is the status of the idea now? I get the impression this is impossible in Bali. Not sure about elsewhere.
Shadrach
II see a side article in that link referring back to passengers being able to bring 2.25 litres alcohol duty free at the beginning of 2022. What is the status of the idea now? I get the impression this is impossible in Bali. Not sure about elsewhere.[/QUOTE] checked out that link. Wow, telling people to Snitch, on tourist is like cutting the golden gooses throat! If they did this in the States, sorry to say, but they wouldn't last very long, and their goose would be cooked! Pronto! People there don't like anyone, that's a Rat!
spicyayam
Are there any governments around the world that use Whatsapp for a hotline? Just seems strange to me.
Markit
I'm gonna be making a lot of calls on this line about illegal fly-tippers, underage children on scooters, price gouging shops, lazy policemen, bad traffic, potholes, more children on scooters without helmets, illegal building, building against the regulations (1.5 meter upstand), demands for payments from anybody and anywhere, I could (and will) go on and on.
britoo
I'm gonna be making a lot of calls on this line about illegal fly-tippers, underage children on scooters, price gouging shops, lazy policemen, bad traffic, potholes, more children on scooters without helmets, illegal building, building against the regulations (1.5 meter upstand), demands for payments from anybody and anywhere, I could (and will) go on and on.[/QUOTE]of course, it's a one way street :eek: - so enjoy those calls[B]. . . . . serves as a tool for the Indonesian public to deliver their concerns over foreigners[/B]
Foamcrest
I'd take a guess and say it's aimed at a certain group of 'guests' who are hiding out in Bali as they don't want to participate in Mr Putins war and are opening businesses, treating the locals with disrespect, building enclaves on virgin land etc etc. Just a wild guess on my part mind you.
Shadrach
I'm gonna be making a lot of calls on this line about illegal fly-tippers, underage children on scooters, price gouging shops, lazy policemen, bad traffic, potholes, more children on scooters without helmets, illegal building, building against the regulations (1.5 meter upstand), demands for payments from anybody and anywhere, I could (and will) go on and on.[/QUOTE]Motorbikes on sidewalks, passing on the wrong side of a vehicle, passing on blind curves, and worst of all, throwing plastic bags of rubbish, in the Streams, Rivers, Ocean, Streets! One more, after a big ceremony, leaving all the plastic water bottles, and wrappers, for sweets! On the ground!
sakumabali
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sakumabali
They are learning from the best
Shadrach
[ATTACH type="full" alt="1714467346923.png"]4093[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]What is this? Am I supposed to call the Mall of America, if I see something? I must admit, I saw someone, not put sauce on their Nasi Campur!
meremortal
s[URL]https://indonesiaexpat.id/news/indonesian-immigration-launches-hotline-to-report-foreigners-suspicious-activities/[/URL][/QUOTE]unfortunately this is something the wite folk have created in, what once was, a most natural and free land. they did th same in about every country in the world (bar thailand where the king lost his life to save his country altho it didn't help them in recent years!) and that is why i'm wishing to escape from the western world. however, i feel 'they' have got there before me ...... by complaining and misbehaving (owning a noisy fast sepeda and galloping around blind corners); disrespecting religious ceremonies and the likes; and wishing our desires to be met (sit down waist high loo with push down button, air-conditioning, toilet paper, toxic vegetable seed oils so our food does'nt taste coconutty (but kills instead - eg cancer)) we destroyed a country, it's culture, language and, most of all, it's natives. maybe i'm going where i'm coming from .....
Balifrog
Oksunfortunately this is something the wite folk have created in, what once was, a most natural and free land. they did th same in about every country in the world (bar thailand where the king lost his life to save his country altho it didn't help them in recent years!) and that is why i'm wishing to escape from the western world. however, i feel 'they' have got there before me ...... by complaining and misbehaving (owning a noisy fast sepeda and galloping around blind corners); disrespecting religious ceremonies and the likes; and wishing our desires to be met (sit down waist high loo with push down button, air-conditioning, toilet paper, toxic vegetable seed oils so our food does'nt taste coconutty (but kills instead - eg cancer)) we destroyed a country, it's culture, language and, most of all, it's natives. maybe i'm going where i'm coming from .....[/QUOTE]ok, sit down, have a nap and read that again....It may need some "editing"
harryopal1
sunfortunately this is something the wite folk have created in, [B]what once was, a most natural and free land.[/B] they did th same in about every country in the world (bar thailand where the king lost his life to save his country altho it didn't help them in recent years!) and that is why i'm wishing to escape from the western world. however, i feel 'they' have got there before me ...... by complaining and misbehaving (owning a noisy fast sepeda and galloping around blind corners); disrespecting religious ceremonies and the likes; and wishing our desires to be met (sit down waist high loo with push down button, air-conditioning, toilet paper, toxic vegetable seed oils so our food does'nt taste coconutty (but kills instead - eg cancer)) we destroyed a country, it's culture, language and, most of all, it's natives. maybe i'm going where i'm coming from .....[/QUOTE]There has long been this Western, romantic view that untouched societies are simple, innocent and harmonious. It was and is wishful thinking. Information technology has had a profound impact on the way societies relate and exchange information but any communities whether they be remote in a jungle or a crowded city are prone to have the usual human complexities from love to spite and malicious often violent feuds. In Australia there are romantics who still have the notion that Aboriginal peoples lived in peaceful harmony with nature and the universe until a white invasion spoiled it all. The history of that invasion includes attempted genocide, theft murder and oppressing Aborigines. That is true. But pre the invasion there was not an Aboriginal nation as such but hundreds of tribes many of which were often engaged in hostilities. And within tribes the usual dynamics of human emotions and variety of personalities given to periods of harmony and disruption. Similarly I am sure that before the Dutch these same human features amongst the Balinese meant life was not just blissful and free of stress. This is not to say that constant change and development has not come without a significant and detrimental impact. But it is the same the world over. Ever changing and often for the worse. It is what it is.
meremortal
hunThere has long been this Western, romantic view that untouched societies are simple, innocent and harmonious. It was and is wishful thinking. Information technology has had a profound impact on the way societies relate and exchange information but any communities whether they be remote in a jungle or a crowded city are prone to have the usual human complexities from love to spite and malicious often violent feuds. In Australia there are romantics who still have the notion that Aboriginal peoples lived in peaceful harmony with nature and the universe until a white invasion spoiled it all. The history of that invasion includes attempted genocide, theft murder and oppressing Aborigines. That is true. But pre the invasion there was not an Aboriginal nation as such but hundreds of tribes many of which were often engaged in hostilities. And within tribes the usual dynamics of human emotions and variety of personalities given to periods of harmony and disruption. Similarly I am sure that before the Dutch these same human features amongst the Balinese meant life was not just blissful and free of stress. This is not to say that constant change and development has not come without a significant and detrimental impact. But it is the same the world over. Ever changing and often for the worse. It is what it[/QUOTE]
meremortal
hunzakutz? and don't agree with what some WITE historian wrote about australian natives in tribes being aggressive (i'd rather read marlo morgan's books on the mutant message from downunder for the truth!. bit like all the tv war movies that taught me japanese were evil beings until i learned the language and worked with them. they are my favourite ppl in the civilized world for being humble, conscious and peaceful.
Markit
hunzakutz? and don't agree with what some WITE historian wrote about australian natives in tribes being aggressive (i'd rather read marlo morgan's books on the mutant message from downunder for the truth!. bit like all the tv war movies that taught me japanese were evil beings until i learned the language and worked with them. they are my favourite ppl in the civilized world for being humble, conscious and peaceful.[/QUOTE]Be careful not to fall foul of the Stockholm Syndrome. I lived for 15 years in Germany and was sure that there was not a more peace and freedom loving democracy on the planet until I heard a Robin Williams bit on why the Germans aren't funny - his take was because they'd killed all the funny ones. My take was because all the warmongers, and Nazi scum were killed during WW2. Anyone with an aggressive bone in his body has long been ploughed under. The Chinese and Koreans still aren't so keen on the Japs.
harryopal1
hunzakutz? and don't agree with what some WITE historian wrote about australian natives in tribes being aggressive (i'd rather read marlo morgan's books on the mutant message from downunder for the truth!. bit like all the tv war movies that taught me japanese were evil beings until i learned the language and worked with them. they are my favourite ppl in the civilized world for being humble, conscious and peaceful.[/QUOTE]Yes, within the cultural tradition of Japan being humble, conscious and peaceful are admirable elements. But this does not contradict the point I am trying to make that most people are capable of actions ranging from sublime to pure evil. Or are you suggesting the terrible atrocities carried out by the marauding Japanese army during WW2 did not take place and are just fiction? I have had the advantage and privilege of having made many indigenous friends across a life span of more than 60 years and stayed in communities around Australia from remote to urban locations. Fundamentally , as with the rest of the population, Aboriginal people are prone to express the gamut of human emotions from love and care to rage and violence. [ATTACH type="full"]4097[/ATTACH]
meremortal
iBe careful not to fall foul of the Stockholm Syndrome.I lived for 15 years in Germany and was sure that there was not a more peace and freedom loving democracy on the planet until I heard a Robin Williams bit on why the Germans aren't funny - his take was because they'd killed all the funny ones.My take was because all the warmongers, and Nazi scum were killed during WW2. Anyone with an aggressive bone in his body has long been ploughed under.The Chinese and Koreans still aren't so kee[/QUOTE]
meremortal
a) iYes, within the cultural tradition of Japan being humble, conscious and peaceful are admirable elements. But this does not contradict the point I am trying to make that most people are capable of actions ranging from sublime to pure evil. Or are you suggesting the terrible atrocities carried out by the marauding Japanese army during WW2 did not take place and are just fiction? I have had the advantage and privilege of having made many indigenous friends across a life span of more than 60 years and stayed in communities around Australia from remote to urban locations. Fundamentally , as with the rest of the population, Aboriginal people are prone to express the gamut of human emotions from love and care to rage and violence.[ATTACH type="full" alt="1714910884033.png"]4097[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
