Balifrog
Historian [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niall_Ferguson']Niall Ferguson[/URL] argues that France is the most belligerent military power in history. It participated in 50 of the 125 major European wars fought since 1495He said nothing about "winning" only participating. Negroes in America "participated" in the greatest cotton industry the world has ever seen. Germans "participated" in 2 of the only world wars. BUT...You get my drift?[/QUOTE]Nope
John Evans
Hi, I am relocating and bringing a few items in, one will be an espresso machine (can't find it anywhere locally) What's the general feedback on brand new or second hand with duty and carring it in? Kitas not as yet, have a residence though and Pt. PMA.I've heard that second hand items are a no go now for fear of re selling, and if new (or second hand I guess) to have the recpt and under USD500Thoughts?[/QUOTE]hi there, i could help you with that, i work on import and exporting business, i could give you some consultation on what to bring in or not, thanks
oliverhen
Hi, I am relocating and bringing a few items in, one will be an espresso machine (can't find it anywhere locally) What's the general feedback on brand new or second hand with duty and carring it in? Kitas not as yet, have a residence though and Pt. PMA.I've heard that second hand items are a no go now for fear of re selling, and if new (or second hand I guess) to have the recpt and under USD500Thoughts?[/QUOTE]For importing electronics like your espresso machine into Indonesia, ensure compliance with customs regulations. Second-hand items may pose resale concerns, so new items with receipts under USD 500 are advisable. Consider seeking advice from local authorities or customs brokers for smoother importation processes.
Shadrach
This is such a funny topic when you think of 99% of the Indonesian people, wouldn't have a clue what or how to use such a machine. See the look on their faces when you ask for a espresso, margarita pizza, creamy spaghetti carbonara, meatloaf, a cheese platter, where is Bali on the world map, what is a world map, etc? The list goes on and on. Yes there is much about the different traditions, religions, here that westerners don't have a clue about , but to tax someone for bringing in an espresso machine or the horrible thought they might resale it. Truly cracks me up! Just imagine going down to the local Warung and asking for a espresso, caffe latte, flat white, cappuccino, Americano, or one of the many varieties offered from an espresso cafe, and seeing the dumbfounded look on the local faces? Yea, you better have a safe garage for that new Tesla!
pantaiema
This is such a funny topic when you think of 99% of the Indonesian people, wouldn't have a clue what or how to use such a machine. See the look on their faces when you ask for a espresso, margarita pizza, creamy spaghetti carbonara, meatloaf, a cheese platter, where is Bali on the world map, what is a world map, etc? The list goes on and on. Yes there is much about the different traditions, religions, here that westerners don't have a clue about , but to tax someone for bringing in an espresso machine or the horrible thought they might resale it. Truly cracks me up! Just imagine going down to the local Warung and asking for a espresso, caffe latte, flat white, cappuccino, Americano, or one of the many varieties offered from an espresso cafe, and seeing the dumbfounded look on the local faces? Yea, you better have a safe garage for that new Tesla![/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure you're aware that Indonesia has a considerable number of franchised coffee houses, including well-known brands like Starbucks, Costa, and Cafe Nero. These establishments offer a variety of coffee-based beverages such as espresso, espresso macchiato, cappuccino, cafe latte, mocha, flat white, and Americano. You might not find it in local warung in sub urban areas but if you go to exclusive local cafe where there are a lot of foreigners, you could also buy these various types of coffee-based beverages in there. Some of these cafe's owner's might call them with a different name.The process of making these drinks is greatly facilitated by automated coffee machines. With such fancy name, enable them to be sold at premium prices, yielding a much higher profits.In contrast to cheese, the ingredients required for these coffee beverages are abundant in Indonesia. Notably, the country is a major exporter of cacao and various types of coffee beans.
Shadrach
I'm pretty sure you're aware that Indonesia has a considerable number of franchised coffee houses, including well-known brands like Starbucks, Costa, and Cafe Nero. These establishments offer a variety of coffee-based beverages such as espresso, espresso macchiato, cappuccino, cafe latte, mocha, flat white, and Americano. You might not find it in local warung in sub urban areas but if you go to exclusive local cafe where there are a lot of foreigners, you could also buy these various types of coffee-based beverages in there. Some of these cafe's owner's might call them with a different name.The process of making these drinks is greatly facilitated by automated coffee machines. With such fancy name, enable them to be sold at premium prices, yielding a much higher profits.In contrast to cheese, the ingredients required for these coffee beverages are abundant in Indonesia. Notably, the country is a major exporter of cacao and various types of coffee beans.[/QUOTE]Very good point! I must admit I am not very aware of these kind of establishments selling gourmet coffee drinks! I don't go to the city much. I guess, as you say I live in sub- urban areas where you just get a Bali coffee. I do go to the larger supermarkets and buy Sumatran coffee and mix it with the Bali variety. I do like the flavor of exotic coffee based drinks though. I am from the west living with the locals, and I like it that way. Enjoy your coffee anyway you can get it! One thing for sure, you know all the names and how to spell them!
Metter
Hi, I am relocating and bringing a few items in, one will be an espresso machine (can't find it anywhere locally) What's the general feedback on brand new or second hand with duty and carring it in? Kitas not as yet, have a residence though and Pt. PMA.I've heard that second hand items are a no go now for fear of re selling, and if new (or second hand I guess) to have the recpt and under USD500Thoughts?[/QUOTE]I have done this for a Lelit expresso machine and no problems at all.Just make sure you have receipts which prove it is below $500 USA.I already owned the machine and if I was to buy again I would certainly explore local options first.I bought my coffee roaster in Indonesia and paid less than Australian prices. There are some good sellers ( not in Bali though). Look on Tokopedia.
oliverhen
For electronics, especially valuable ones like espresso machines, it's wise to prioritize authenticity and reliability. Consider the warranty and after-sales support, which might be easier with new purchases. Ensure you're well-informed on customs regulations to avoid any surprises. Good luck with your relocation!
oliverhen
For electronics, especially valuable ones like espresso machines, it's wise to prioritize authenticity and reliability. Consider the warranty and after-sales support, which might be easier with new purchases. Ensure you're well-informed on customs regulations to avoid any surprises. Good luck with your relocation!
