ZnC
Hi folks, first-time poster here. Hopefully this is in the right plcase. We are moving to Bali in the near future and will move our household goods and personal eefects by sea to Bali. I received a list of restricted good from the receiving agent in Indonesia that icluded a lsit of restricted items:LIST PROHIBITED ITEMS Fireworks Colors photocopy machine and parts Audio and / or visual recording media Telecommunication equipment Medicine Pesticides Wastes Cultural Valuable Goods Firearms, ammunitions andexplosives Obscene literature, photographs andfilms Politically "undesirable" literature [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]Foodstuffs[/COLOR] and alcohol Toy guns and air guns Books of a political or religious nature,which may be offensive to Indonesia,Indonesians or Islam.But I find variations on that List wherever I look and search! We are moving from an Islamic country (Qatar) so things are very similar here.Our question is in two parts... 1. Is there a definitive list anywhere? 2. And while we understand '[I]foodstuffs[/I]' does this include dry goods (rice, pasta, cereals, etc), spices in jars, and tinned goods (soups etc)? If anyone has any advice we'd be very grateful for your help.
spicyayam
Even if you find a definitive list, it may come down to the individual custom's officers who inspect your stuff. I would be more worried about what visa you will be coming on and whether your household goods will get taxed or not.Unless you are rich, or your company is paying for shipping, it is better to arrive here just with your suitcases and buy what you need here.
Balifrog
Except family souvenirs and personnal stuff we came here with our stuff in our suitcases.2 trips HKG - DPS was enough.Other stuff we had shipped previously direcrly to the Missus adress, through one of the hundreds specialized shipping companies attending to domestic helpers and overseas workers.I inquired.with 2 major international movers and they both confirmed that importing "personnal goods" here is often a nightmare. Having a long (profesionnal) experience with customs in SEA, I abandonned the idea.Note : Retirement visa in my case.
Fred2
You need the right Visa. Everything going to Bali would go to Surabaya and I have always had trouble with them.
Markit
Do not ship [B][I]anything[/I][/B] to Indonesia - it's just a red flag to the boys in tight shirts to get their wallets out. It is much, much cheaper to buy everything you need here and you'll get good quality teak furniture to export again (much easier). Everything else you can get online with Tokopedia or Shoppee.
AuroraB
I have nothing good to say about Indonesian customs. I have imported household goods that they held back and then asked for hefty day penalty. In essence blackmail. My daughter send an extra suitcase via air freight, again held back. I had to write an email to the ministry before they would release the suitcase. Xmas gifts arrive each year with wrapping ripped apart and a hefty "import fee". Along with the police interaction with the customs to be avoided at all cost.
ZnC
Except family souvenirs and personnal stuff we came here with our stuff in our suitcases.2 trips HKG - DPS was enough.Other stuff we had shipped previously direcrly to the Missus adress, through one of the hundreds specialized shipping companies attending to domestic helpers and overseas workers.I inquired.with 2 major international movers and they both confirmed that importing "personnal goods" here is often a nightmare. Having a long (profesionnal) experience with customs in SEA, I abandonned the idea.Note : Retirement visa in my case.[/QUOTE]Thank you, second home visa entry for us. We're quite nomadic for 2 oldies and move our house contents (PE and goods) quite regularly. Fingers crossed!
ZnC
You need the right Visa. Everything going to Bali would go to Surabaya and I have always had trouble with them.[/QUOTE]2nd home visas for us. Freight will arrive after visas have been approved.
Balifrog
2nd home visas for us. Freight will arrive after visas have been approved.[/QUOTE]Would be interesting to have some more information about this "2nd home visa".Is this one of the recent new visas ?Requirements, apllication process, cost, documents needed ?
matsaleh
Would be interesting to have some more information about this "2nd home visa".Is this one of the recent new visas ?Requirements, apllication process, cost, documents needed ?[/QUOTE]See Indonesian Immigration's website in the attachment. It's also possible (although it's not mentioned on the site) to use property purchased on Hak Pakai title (with a minimum value of IDR 5 billion for Bali) to use as the "proof of funds".[URL='https://www.imigrasi.go.id/en/visa-rumah-kedua/']Imigrasi - 2nd home visa[/URL]
matsaleh
Cost for the 2nd Home Visa (Index C321 for the applicant and Index C322 for any dependants) can also be found on Immigration's Molina website, where it's possible to apply for the visa directly.[URL='https://molina.imigrasi.go.id/front/faq/0e6b4213-6b94-450a-9d14-9c9cb971fd06']Molina - C321 2nd home visa[/URL][URL='https://molina.imigrasi.go.id/front/faq/b6469147-09ae-44c0-878e-74e2c4c2c14e']Molina - C322 2nd home visa for dependant[/URL]
Balifrog
See Indonesian Immigration's website in the attachment. It's also possible (although it's not mentioned on the site) to use property purchased on Hak Pakai title (with a minimum value of IDR 5 billion for Bali) to use as the "proof of funds".[URL='https://www.imigrasi.go.id/en/visa-rumah-kedua/']Imigrasi - 2nd home visa[/URL][/QUOTE]Ok, it is indeed the latest "novelty" discussed on various forums and in every pub a few months ago.Not being married, and with ZERO intention to do it, putting 125.000 euro blocked in a bank here is a nono.70 years old, not gonna buy either.But everybody's circumstances and views are different.
ZnC
See Indonesian Immigration's website in the attachment. It's also possible (although it's not mentioned on the site) to use property purchased on Hak Pakai title (with a minimum value of IDR 5 billion for Bali) to use as the "proof of funds".[URL='https://www.imigrasi.go.id/en/visa-rumah-kedua/']Imigrasi - 2nd home visa[/URL][/QUOTE]That's our route in. I know it won't be, but the process reads as fairly straightforward compared to other countries we have moved to. The other variation on the theme is that it reads as though you can buy an apartment (rather than a house) for 2Bn and also qualify.
matsaleh
That's our route in. I know it won't be, but the process reads as fairly straightforward compared to other countries we have moved to. The other variation on the theme is that it reads as though you can buy an apartment (rather than a house) for 2Bn and also qualify.[/QUOTE]Yes, that's possible too. Whether the 2nd Home Kitas will allow you to bring your household goods import duty free is a question you need to ask your freight company and if they say yes, ask them to guarantee it. Too many have been burnt before, where the agent says no tax payable, but the Kitas holder is held to ransom by customs once the goods arrive.
ZnC
Yes, that's possible too.Whether the 2nd Home Kitas will allow you to bring your household goods import duty free is a question you need to ask your freight company and if they say yes, ask them to guarantee it. Too many have been burnt before, where the agent says no tax payable, but the Kitas holder is held to ransom by customs once the goods arrive.[/QUOTE]Thank you [USER=231]@matsaleh[/USER]; sound advice ... our agent here in Qatar is going to take the advice of the receiving agent in Indonesia.
