mugwump
According to a recent article in Bali Update the wonderful new Mayo Clinic will be manned by Indonesian staff. So this means no board certified folks just Mayo name and operational influence. Hold that seat S'pore Air I just cleared the gate. Hmmmm?
matsaleh
See this article from The Star online from 17 March. Original article was published in The Jakarta Post (which is pay-walled)[HEADING=2]Mayo Clinic only acting as consultant for Bali International Hospital: exec[/HEADING]JAKARTA (The Jakarta Post/Asia News Network): The Mayo Clinic, a United States-based medical nonprofit, has said it is strictly serving as a consultant for the development of the Bali International Hospital and has no part in running the government-supported healthcare facility intended to encourage Indonesian patients to seek advanced care domestically.Royston Lek, the Mayo Clinic International's executive director for the Asia-Pacific region, told The Jakarta Post the hospital was providing strategic advice and acting as a clinical knowledge partner for its Indonesian counterpart."We're not running it," Lek said in an interview on Thursday (March 16). He did not rule out the possibility of more collaboration in the future."Pertamina Central Hospital [RSPP] is part of the Mayo Clinic Care Network, but obviously Bali International Hospital will become our partner in the future, but we're currently just doing a consultation with them," he said separately.The Bali International Hospital will be operated by state-owned hospital holding company PT Pertamedika Indonesia Health Care Corporation. The medical centre is set to open in the Sanur special economic zone (SEZ) of Bali in mid-2023, after a year of construction, alongside nearby premium resorts, hotels and care homes.Sanur is one of three locations where the government is planning to build new international-standard hospitals, with the others in Jakarta and Medan.Bloomberg reported in December 2021 that the Bali International Hospital would be run in partnership with the Mayo Clinic. The partnership was to include bringing its brand and medical practices to Indonesia, said Agus Ihwayudi, the project manager of the hospital, in October of last year.Mira Dyah Wahyuni, the president director of Pertamina Bina Medika Indonesia Healthcare Corporation, said the Mayo Clinic's involvement would only extend to assisting in the establishment of the hospital and serving as a medical consultant in areas such as human capital, permits and healthcare equipment."Later on, Mayo Clinic will participate in an upskilling programme for Bali International Hospital's operational purposes," she told the Post on Friday.Mira said the hospital would need 60 specialists, 19 general practitioners, 104 nurses, 73 supporting medical personnel and 78 non-medical personnel, which it would source by hiring local health workers, as well as medical professionals from the Indonesian diaspora.The plan is part of a government scheme to reduce the number of citizens seeking treatment abroad and to redirect billions of dollars in annual medical spending to the domestic healthcare sector.The government estimates that some two million Indonesians seek treatment abroad annually, in countries such as Singapore, Malaysia, Japan and the US, which it says results in Rp 97 trillion (US$6.3 billion) in foreign exchange losses annually.[URL='https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/aseanplus-news/2023/03/17/mayo-clinic-only-acting-as-consultant-for-bali-international-hospital-exec']The Star - Mayo Clinic only acting as consultant[/URL]
Mark
According to a recent article in Bali Update the wonderful new Mayo Clinic will be manned by Indonesian staff. So this means no board certified folks just Mayo name and operational influence. Hold that seat S'pore Air I just cleared the gate. Hmmmm?[/QUOTE]It's been widely reported that the government has created a special economic zone for the hospital which will allow it to employ foreign doctors, as well as board certified Indonesian doctors who are currently working abroad. Obviously, a key challenge will be the recruitment of these doctors.
Balifrog
The medical centre is set to open in the Sanur special economic zone (SEZ) of Bali in mid-2023[/QUOTE]More likely mid 2024 ......
Markit
I'm convinced this is the usual Indonesian example of naivete and not moronic stupidity. I mean I chose to live here, didn't we?I can see it now: all the boys were sitting around at a full moon ceremony one late night, drinking tuak and some Made/Wayan/Agus said "gee, what we need to get rich as feck is an international standard hospital". Komang/Putu/Ketut then said after a long pull on the rat poison "if I send an email to the Mayo clinic tomorrow and they write back we could say it was "in cooperation with the Mayo Clinic - fecking brilliant they all agreed.Now what will most likely happen is a few Ozzies will get their teeth capped, titties lifted/reduced, tattoos removed, etc. and that will be about it I'm afraid. I could be wrong.
AuroraB
The plan is part of a government scheme to reduce the number of citizens seeking treatment abroad and to redirect billions of dollars in annual medical spending to the domestic healthcare sector.The government estimates that some two million Indonesians seek treatment abroad annually, in countries such as Singapore, Malaysia, Japan and the US, which it says results in Rp 97 trillion (US$6.3 billion) in foreign exchange losses annually.[/QUOTE]The plan is apparently to divert some of the flow of wealthy Indonesian from going overseas and instead opt for Sanur. I doubt these wealthy Indonesian are price sensitive when life is at stake. They are obviously more concerned about the reputation of the available specialists, quality of the care and the fact that Singapore have quite a few capable hospitals. If the hospital is build using the same construction standards as applied to local airports built over the last 10 years it will be really sad. They might be able to buy state of the art equipment from overseas, but the most important factor is recruiting healthcare workers. If that is based on just poaching from other hospitals around it will basically just be similar to how other hospitals operate.
sakumabali
Unfortunately I had the chance to witness the hospital conditions in Negara, Tabanan and Denpasar. Places I don't want to be sick. When you grew older you want to have a good hospital nearby. A sixty something ex family member with high blood pressure (apart of that he seemed to be healthy; he had a six pack) died in Negara because the female doctor was heavily pregnant and couldn't do or reach anything to help him...
Markit
The hospitals here are completely bat-shit anyway. The families of the ill are expected to spend every waking and sleeping minute within reach of the nearly departed and jog off the the inhouse apotek or cantine if there is need of medicine or food. This while the "nurses", in full gear, sit around the main station playing with their phones or flirting with the doctors. Madness! A friends mum was in for high blood pressure with stroke symptoms (more white rice anyone?) and her children were expected to spend their time stroking mum's feet or stepandfetchit running for anything needed.
tel522
The hospitals here are completely bat-shit anyway. The families of the ill are expected to spend every waking and sleeping minute within reach of the nearly departed and jog off the the inhouse apotek or cantine if there is need of medicine or food. This while the "nurses", in full gear, sit around the main station playing with their phones or flirting with the doctors. Madness! A friends mum was in for high blood pressure with stroke symptoms (more white rice anyone?) and her children were expected to spend their time stroking mum's feet or stepandfetchit running for anything needed.[/QUOTE]Absolutely true unfortunately . Iv seen worse in somalia and eritrea where they have "naff all" drugs etc , but you would expect better here ,if you have no one to look out for you ,they will leave you in a corner to "cock your clogs" ,its a disgrace .
tel522
My advice would be ,plan your heart attack ,stroke or any other major issue just after youve landed in singapore , jeez even the private rooms in gleneagles malaysia do not have hot water for a shower ,forget that country .Here you need a team of supporters ,a lot of luck , and the immune system of an alligator to survive .
mugwump
Once went to a female doctor in Negara about conjunctivitis (pink eye), and she told me "oh good we have an ENT doctor coming tomorrow"!
Markit
Once went to a female doctor in Negara about conjunctivitis (pink eye), and she told me "oh good we have an ENT doctor coming tomorrow"![/QUOTE]Maybe ENT here means Eyes, Nuts and Tool?
Shadrach
See this article from The Star online from 17 March. Original article was published in The Jakarta Post (which is pay-walled)[HEADING=2][/HEADING][HEADING=2]Mayo Clinic only acting as consultant for Bali International Hospital: exec[/HEADING]JAKARTA (The Jakarta Post/Asia News Network): The Mayo Clinic, a United States-based medical nonprofit, has said it is strictly serving as a consultant for the development of the Bali International Hospital and has no part in running the government-supported healthcare facility intended to encourage Indonesian patients to seek advanced care domestically.Royston Lek, the Mayo Clinic International's executive director for the Asia-Pacific region, told The Jakarta Post the hospital was providing strategic advice and acting as a clinical knowledge partner for its Indonesian counterpart."We're not running it," Lek said in an interview on Thursday (March 16). He did not rule out the possibility of more collaboration in the future."Pertamina Central Hospital [RSPP] is part of the Mayo Clinic Care Network, but obviously Bali International Hospital will become our partner in the future, but we're currently just doing a consultation with them," he said separately.The Bali International Hospital will be operated by state-owned hospital holding company PT Pertamedika Indonesia Health Care Corporation. The medical centre is set to open in the Sanur special economic zone (SEZ) of Bali in mid-2023, after a year of construction, alongside nearby premium resorts, hotels and care homes.Sanur is one of three locations where the government is planning to build new international-standard hospitals, with the others in Jakarta and Medan.Bloomberg reported in December 2021 that the Bali International Hospital would be run in partnership with the Mayo Clinic. The partnership was to include bringing its brand and medical practices to Indonesia, said Agus Ihwayudi, the project manager of the hospital, in October of last year.Mira Dyah Wahyuni, the president director of Pertamina Bina Medika Indonesia Healthcare Corporation, said the Mayo Clinic's involvement would only extend to assisting in the establishment of the hospital and serving as a medical consultant in areas such as human capital, permits and healthcare equipment."Later on, Mayo Clinic will participate in an upskilling programme for Bali International Hospital's operational purposes," she told the Post on Friday.Mira said the hospital would need 60 specialists, 19 general practitioners, 104 nurses, 73 supporting medical personnel and 78 non-medical personnel, which it would source by hiring local health workers, as well as medical professionals from the Indonesian diaspora.The plan is part of a government scheme to reduce the number of citizens seeking treatment abroad and to redirect billions of dollars in annual medical spending to the domestic healthcare sector.The government estimates that some two million Indonesians seek treatment abroad annually, in countries such as Singapore, Malaysia, Japan and the US, which it says results in Rp 97 trillion (US$6.3 billion) in foreign exchange losses annually.[URL='https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/aseanplus-news/2023/03/17/mayo-clinic-only-acting-as-consultant-for-bali-international-hospital-exec']The Star - Mayo Clinic only acting as consultant[/URL][/QUOTE]Well if they want to have an international quality hospital here that should have some qualified western doctors too. I went to a hospital yesterday in the Kuta area, supposedly a so called good one. They didn't even have the training to get me out of a car and into a wheelchair, or get me up on the x-ray table, I had to instruct them how to do basic service. They were more concerned about clipboards with bills for me to agree to pay, than truly providing quality service. So basically what I am saying is from own experiences here. The quality of the doctors, dentist, staff, and hospitals are subpare. I am speaking only from my own experience so this is my opinion only. I hope some of you expats have had better luck. So I think this place needs much much more higher standards in the medical field. Good luck with these so called international hospitals!
harryopal
Surely the main point is building the hospital. How many billion rupiah involved in that?
