Glyn
I live in a two year old villa "west" Sanur inside a complex. The builder is well reputed Sanur based Balinese. The villa is enclosed concept with 4 bedrooms and 5 bathrooms, total 150m2 over two levels. Building is attached to full garage (25m2) and lower standard maid quarter (60m2). Good quality wood windows and doors. Roof extended via wood framing to provide shade. Large western style kitchen. Ground floor is elevated well above ground level to prevent water ingress and no mold seen so far. With pool and bale. I was told total cost 1.5 Milyar all in -- around 6.5 juta per m2 including garage and maid quarter. The villa is fully furnished which I assume is extra.[/QUOTE]Hello AuroraBWow sounds nice pad and a honest price for what you are getting, well done.Cheers Glyn
Glyn
Hi Geoffd,My email is , [email]glyntaylor648@gmail.com[/email]CheersGlyn
AuroraB
Hello AuroraBWow sounds nice pad and a honest price for what you are getting, well done.CheersGlyn[/QUOTE]Thanks, To be clear I'm just renting this villa.
Glyn
No problems, have a great day.
Glyn
Hi Geoffd,My email is , [EMAIL]glyntaylor648@gmail.com[/EMAIL]CheersGlyn[/QUOTE]Hi Geoffd,I will private msg you soon when i have 10 msg on this platform.
Glyn
Hi Geoffd,I will private msg you soon when i have 10 msg on this platform.[/QUOTE]Some history on the process / journey prior to final selection...cont.
Glyn
Over the period of approx. 18months i went to Indonesia every 3 months just looking at various popular areas that could be reached in one day or less from Denpasar.
Markit
Over the period of approx. 18months i went to Indonesia every 3 months just looking at various popular areas that could be reached in one day or less from Denpasar.[/QUOTE]There is no place on Bali that cannot be reached in one day. Distance should not be the deciding factor in your choice of new home location. Although with online shopping growing in leaps and bounds infrastructure is not as important as it used to be there are certain things you still will want to go to a shop and/or talk to someone about. Note also your access to good staff will also be important - unless you speak excellent Indonesian you'll want people that can understand English so you shouldn't be too far out in the boonies. The occasional beer with expats will also be welcome I'm sure. I can go on...
Shadrach
This is a funny conversation. 6.5 juta for a square meter. You might as well be in New York, London, Or Paris for these kind of prices. The concept of buying land is an illusion. If you don't pay your taxes the government takes it back. So basically you are just renting. I remember in the States the native people said to the white man when he came and wanted to buy Seattle. Chief Seattle said, how can we sell the land? We don't own it. We are just caretakers. How do you buy the land, the wind, the sunshine. The fish, water, streams.. this is just a concept is brought over from Europe. Life is short, just be thankful to be here for a short while. And don't get attached to possessions. All things will pass. And the new will come. It's the cycle of the universe. Peace.[/QUOTE]There is no place on Bali that cannot be reached in one day.Distance should not be the deciding factor in your choice of new home location. Although with online shopping growing in leaps and bounds infrastructure is not as important as it used to be there are certain things you still will want to go to a shop and/or talk to someone about.Note also your access to good staff will also be important - unless you speak excellent Indonesian you'll want people that can understand English so you shouldn't be too far out in the boonies.The occasional beer with expats will also be welcome I'm sure. I can go on...[/QUOTE]This reminds of a song I heard years ago from a band then named Peter Pan. It' called Diatas Normal. Pikiranku tak dapat kumengerti, kaki de kapala, kepala di kaki. That seems to be normal living here. I like the occasional beer part!
gtrken
There is no place on Bali that cannot be reached in one day.Note also your access to good staff will also be important - unless you speak excellent Indonesian you'll want people that can understand English so you shouldn't be too far out in the boonies.The occasional beer with expats will also be welcome I'm sure. I can go on...[/QUOTE]Have to agree with that. If you live somewhere with no English/Yank/Oz speaking people around it can get boring real fast unless you want to immerse your self into the local language.My finding is that a lot of Indonesian people do not speak the same indonesian as you may be taught in classes.A bit like an Englishman listening to an Aussie talking. It's both English language but indecipherable ...CheersKen
Shadrach
I find it is difficult learning a new language if the teacher doesn't speak your language also. I find it helpful to write things down. It helps me with practicing and pronunciation. I have an app on my computer that translate English to Indonesian, but it won't do Balinese. When you learn to speak here they mix up the Indo and Balinese and a foreigner doesn't realize it. Like the other person said. They mix up words even in Indonesian. Java speaks Bahasa Indonesia different that many words spoken here. Some people are very good at learning languages and some it's more difficult. Markit made a good point about moving where you are isolated.
Glyn
Have to agree with that. If you live somewhere with no English/Yank/Oz speaking people around it can get boring real fast unless you want to immerse your self into the local language.My finding is that a lot of Indonesian people do not speak the same indonesian as you may be taught in classes.A bit like an Englishman listening to an Aussie talking. It's both English language but indecipherable ...CheersKen[/QUOTE]Yes i agree with everything you are saying , i think trying to learn a new language would be hard for many people going to a new country to live.CheersGlyn
Glyn
Have to agree with that. If you live somewhere with no English/Yank/Oz speaking people around it can get boring real fast unless you want to immerse your self into the local language.My finding is that a lot of Indonesian people do not speak the same indonesian as you may be taught in classes.A bit like an Englishman listening to an Aussie talking. It's both English language but indecipherable ...CheersKen[/QUOTE]Yeah your point about access to good staff is, for me anyway, a very important factor to consider.CheersGlyn
Glyn
There is no place on Bali that cannot be reached in one day.Distance should not be the deciding factor in your choice of new home location. Although with online shopping growing in leaps and bounds infrastructure is not as important as it used to be there are certain things you still will want to go to a shop and/or talk to someone about.Note also your access to good staff will also be important - unless you speak excellent Indonesian you'll want people that can understand English so you shouldn't be too far out in the boonies.The occasional beer with expats will also be welcome I'm sure. I can go on...[/QUOTE]Hi Markit,Yes i hear what u r saying about distance ( re. "reached in one day ") and you are right . I should have explained that a bit better :- if it is a villa location that will be utilised / marketed to tourists then i would take distance into consideration but for personal / private use i'm in agreement with you.
Markit
As a rule of thumb the closer you get to Seminyak/Cangu or Ubud the more expensive things get, significantly. The funny thing is its also a moving target -10 years ago Kuta and Seminyak were the only places for "in" crowd (willing to pay lots) would consider. Now Kuta has died and Seminyak is going slowly with Cangu and Ubud bursting at the seams. Choose carefully! particularly if you also intend to live there - both of the "in" places are hateful to live in now.
Shadrach
As a rule of thumb the closer you get to Seminyak/Cangu or Ubud the more expensive things get, significantly. The funny thing is its also a moving target -10 years ago Kuta and Seminyak were the only places for "in" crowd (willing to pay lots) would consider. Now Kuta has died and Seminyak is going slowly with Cangu and Ubud bursting at the seams.Choose carefully! particularly if you also intend to live there - both of the "in" places are hateful to live in now.[/QUOTE]
Shadrach
Well you have to admit. Thirty years ago Kuta was so full of thieves and prostitutes, it's not a loss to see it go. The problem now is Canngu and Ubud getting so crowded and expensive they have lost the magic also. It's not only tourist but the locals are looking for big bucks and have created traffic jams. The new tourist haven't a clue on fair prices so the cost goes up and up. Yea you can can get a tasty meal, coffee fancy villa, and the like, but turning these places into spas, gyms, crazy priced accommodation, it loses the magic of Bali. If this is the way of the future, I am feeling left behind in my way of trying to learn about the land and the culture of Bali, like it was long ago when us tourist were first coming. If this is what people want then they can have it. I'm going to Karangasem where it is still slower and more chill. To each their own.Peace
Glyn
As a rule of thumb the closer you get to Seminyak/Cangu or Ubud the more expensive things get, significantly. The funny thing is its also a moving target -10 years ago Kuta and Seminyak were the only places for "in" crowd (willing to pay lots) would consider. Now Kuta has died and Seminyak is going slowly with Cangu and Ubud bursting at the seams.Choose carefully! particularly if you also intend to live there - both of the "in" places are hateful to live in now.[/QUOTE]Yeah , good food for thought.CheersGlyn
Markit
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meremortal
Could anybody give me an idea of building costs for a villa and pool on Nusa Lembongan. Thanks G.[/QUOTE]hi g, the reason i joined this site recently is because i paid a builder (whom was associated with a friend of mine and Jehoval Witness (very honest and hardworking people from my experience) $30k to extend a staff house and renovate a dapur and two timber villas (all only built 7 years prior but needed a bit of work on the timber due to borers). the work, near balian beach, was never finalized (meant to be finished in feb23) and the building company, although looked very professional (catu Kreasi Utama) no longer exists (the two partners, one of which i was associated through a friend, split as obviously the business was no longer good). so all i can say is make sure you don't put yourself in the same position. sadly i'm stuck in margaret river, western australia with my old rescued greyhound and rescued chooks and am unable to get away from my very busy bio-organic land husbandry property (it's on the market so upkeep is very important at the moment). i did contact a member of this website and they said buy your own materials and pay the workers weekly when one is on site. that does nothing for the refund of my money or for us to have a place to live with the animals upon arrival (we're travelling private jet for fears of all sorts of stuff!). good luck on your search. used to spend my winter months surfing at lacerations (early 2000s). i've heard now it's overpopulated and the greedy white westerner has almost destroyed the whole island? :(. there were no cars or motorbikes when i first went there. and i bought some land in the mangroves area. wonder where that is now! haha
