JackStraw
The internet is a utility just like water, electricity, trash and streets and needs to be regulated not by the market but by government.I'm sick of all the calls for "light" or "hands off" government from either stroke, left, right or middle. Or that the "market" will regulate it or the wealth will trickle down!I call Bullshit on all that!!What the world needs is a benevolent, socialist government giving everyone a UBI (Universal Basic Income), complete medical health coverage and free education!The money is there so tax the mother feckers and fecking use it![/QUOTE]Hmmm....interesting. My question is, where would the tax money come from if the GDP shrinks? According to macroeconomic theory, a prosperous economy that is growing relies on advances in technology, increasing capital, and a growing labor force. UBI will effectively shrink the workforce, thus having a negative impact on economic growth (GDP growth specifically).When GDP shrinks, so would tax revenue. Less tax revenue means less money to invest in these large, socialist programs you speak of. So where exactly would the money come from then? I guess we could always print it but then we'll end up like modern-day Venezuela.
sakumabali
The internet is a utility just like water, electricity, trash and streets and needs to be regulated not by the market but by government.I'm sick of all the calls for "light" or "hands off" government from either stroke, left, right or middle. Or that the "market" will regulate it or the wealth will trickle down!I call Bullshit on all that!!What the world needs is a benevolent, socialist government giving everyone a UBI (Universal Basic Income), complete medical health coverage and free education!The money is there so tax the mother feckers and fecking use it![/QUOTE]I find it quite amusing that there are so many foreigners living on Bali talking about a "benevolent" government at "home" which arranges Basic Income, health coverage etc. Let's leave aside the affordability for now. Do you (an universal you) think the government at "home" would include expats living overseas?I guess not. "benevolent" countries might exist here & there but they want you to spend the charity dollars in their system. They don't want you to spend the dollars somewhere else, that's why these people have to show their faces that often in an office (so the government can monitoring your moves) .
JackStraw
Just a friendly reminder that this post and this account are still alive and active on Twitter. So where do you draw the line? It's ok to ban the President for something he never did (in my opinion none of his tweets supported violent behavior or called for violent protests) but ACTUAL terrorists get to roam around freely like this?If Twitter is going to play both judge and jury on who can use its platform, then at least they should show some consistency.[ATTACH type="full" alt="3414"]3414[/ATTACH]
Mark
Don't really agree with the logic of the previous post. Trump would have been kicked off Twitter years ago for violating content policies, save for an exception that Twitter makes for country leaders - Twitter has admitted this on many occasions. And the post above, while heinous, quotes a 1991 statement from Iran's then leader, posted by the current leader in 2018, who apparently enjoys the same latitude on Twitter that Trump did until last week. The problem is that Trump, at a public rally just before Congress certified his election loss, incited violence and insurrection towards the government of the United States, all because his malignant narcissism couldn't handle losing a free and fair election (as already verified by his own hand-picked election security guy at Homeland Security, as well as the courts in over 50 lawsuits - many of them presided over by judges he himself appointed). This came on top of hundreds of his tweets falsely claiming that the election was stolen from him, rigged, or otherwise fraudulent. In fact, it is likely that unless he resigns in the next few days and is pardoned by 'President Pence', he will be criminally convicted for his insurrection incitement on January 6. Moreover, it is also possible that social media companies like Twitter, Facebook etc, could face legal liability for allowing this sedition, violence and insurrection to be communicated and planned on their platforms by users, so by blocking Trump they are looking to cover their asses legal-wise. Finally, right or wrong, I really doubt that the Twitter board gives a toss when a loony Iranian leader quotes another long dead loony Iranian leader's quote from 30 years ago, but they are of course very concerned about what happens when there is possible coup attempt in the US, where they and their families live, and whose laws regulate them. Is this all fair in a perfect world? Probably not, but if the world was fair, Trump would have been put in prison and/or bankrupted long ago (I mean permanently, as he has declared bankruptcy many times already). In any case, the past week without hearing from the most toxic and inept leader the free world has ever seen has been delightful.;)
JackStraw
Don't really agree with the logic of the previous post. Trump would have been kicked off Twitter years ago for violating content policies, save for an exception that Twitter makes for country leaders - Twitter has admitted this on many occasions. And the post above, while heinous, quotes a 1991 statement from Iran's then leader, posted by the current leader in 2018, who apparently enjoys the same latitude on Twitter that Trump did until last week.The problem is that Trump, at a public rally just before Congress certified his election loss, incited violence and insurrection towards the government of the United States, all because his malignant narcissism couldn't handle losing a free and fair election (as already verified by his own hand-picked election security guy at Homeland Security, as well as the courts in over 50 lawsuits - many of them presided over by judges he himself appointed). This came on top of hundreds of his tweets falsely claiming that the election was stolen from him, rigged, or otherwise fraudulent. In fact, it is likely that unless he resigns in the next few days and is pardoned by 'President Pence', he will be criminally convicted for his insurrection incitement on January 6. Moreover, it is also possible that social media companies like Twitter, Facebook etc, could face legal liability for allowing this sedition, violence and insurrection to be communicated and planned on their platforms by users, so by blocking Trump they are looking to cover their asses legal-wise. Finally, right or wrong, I really doubt that the Twitter board gives a toss when a loony Iranian leader quotes another long dead loony Iranian leader's quote from 30 years ago, but they are of course very concerned about what happens when there is possible coup attempt in the US, where they and their families live, and whose laws regulate them.Is this all fair in a perfect world? Probably not, but if the world was fair, Trump would have been put in prison and/or bankrupted long ago (I mean permanently, as he has declared bankruptcy many times already). In any case, the past week without hearing from the most toxic and inept leader the free world has ever seen has been delightful.;)[/QUOTE]And I don't agree with the logic of your post. At all. So let's call it a draw and agree to disagree. Peace and well being to you and your family :)
Markit
And I don't agree with the logic of your post. At all. So let's call it a draw and agree to disagree. Peace and well being to you and your family :)[/QUOTE]Nah, lets not. Cause you are completely wrong and your ideas are misguided and based on a completely blinkered and retarded view of events in the last 5 years (1 leading up to his 'victory' - he lost the popular vote, but we can leave that).
JackStraw
aNah, lets not. Cause you are completely wrong and your ideas are misguided and based on a completely blinkered and retarded view of events in the last 5 years (1 leading up to his 'victory' - he lost the popular vote, but we can leave that).[/QUOTE]And this is how a civil war starts. You think I'm completely wrong and retarded and I think you're completely wrong and retarded. Neither of us will budge so let's just kill each other then.Isn't life great in the post-internet era? :)
Foamcrest
And none us would be using words or thoughts like this pre Trump....that's his legacy
Markit
Boy that escalated quickly! See therein lies the whole problem, I wouldn't even consider violence as an option and that's your first "go to" Bet you're an avid NRA follower too? Think Fox News really provides "News"?
JackStraw
Boy that escalated quickly!See therein lies the whole problem, I wouldn't even consider violence as an option and that's your first "go to"Bet you're an avid NRA follower too? Think Fox News really provides "News"?[/QUOTE]Chill bro, it was just a joke. Political differences aside, I am happy to converse and share a beer with someone even if they offer different political beliefs than me. Sadly though, I know many people on both sides of the political spectrum that would resort to violence first and that is a very depressing fact in this day in age.And no, I think FOX news is trash (as is CNN) and I do not particularly agree with anything the NRA does. Although, I do think home self-defense is a basic human right whether that be with a gun, taser, pepper spray (or machete if we're talking Bali).
Juggler
All MSM is rubbish....whether your are pro or anti trump is really irrelevant. Merkel hates trumps but agrees he shouldnt be banned from social media. The platforms are not answerable to anyone thanks to section 230. The manipulate the information to achieve thier goals and objectives. Even to the extent of apple and google taking Parler (twitter alt) off the stores then mazon taking them off their servers. They dont want anyone having free speech that they dont control.Now Whatsapp , owned by fb, is changing their terms to use/steal/sell your data. if you dont agree you cant use the app. Hence why many many are going to Signal as an WA alt.fox new is one of the worst networks out there...rant over
Mark
Interesting, though not surprising, that online misinformation about election fraud dropped 73% in the week after Trump was de-platformed from social media...https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/16/misinformation-trump-twitter/
Mark
Interesting, though not surprising, that online misinformation about election fraud dropped 73% in the week after Trump was de-platformed from social media...https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/16/misinformation-trump-twitter/
JackStraw
Interesting, though not surprising, that online misinformation about election fraud dropped 73% in the week after Trump was de-platformed from social media...https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/16/misinformation-trump-twitter/[/QUOTE]Interesting, though not surprising that the Washington Post would know a thing or two about misinformation seeing as the Jeff Bezos-owned publication makes misinformation their specialty over the last few years.if you're going to cherry-pick a source to back up your claim, make sure it's at least a reputable one not owned by the second richest person in the world who uses it to promote his best interests.
Mark
Interesting, though not surprising that the Washington Post would know a thing or two about misinformation seeing as the Jeff Bezos-owned publication makes misinformation their specialty over the last few years.if you're going to cherry-pick a source to back up your claim, make sure it's at least a reputable one not owned by the second richest person in the world who uses it to promote his best interests.[/QUOTE]Do you mean a source that has won 69 Pulitzer Prizes for reporting, including breaking the Watergate story? re you a Qanon supporter. Sorry but the world is not controlled by a deep State pedophile gang operating out of pizza parlorso_O Or by Jeff Bezos..... Anyway, if you actually read the article you would note that the original source of the information was a data analytics firm called Zignal Labs. Also, the story of Zignal's research results has been reported by multiple news outlets, which a quick google search will verify.
Mark
Interesting, though not surprising that the Washington Post would know a thing or two about misinformation seeing as the Jeff Bezos-owned publication makes misinformation their specialty over the last few years.if you're going to cherry-pick a source to back up your claim, make sure it's at least a reputable one not owned by the second richest person in the world who uses it to promote his best interests.[/QUOTE]Do you mean a source that has won 69 Pulitzer Prizes for reporting, including breaking the Watergate story? In any case, if you bother to actually read the article you would note that the original source of the information is a data analytics firm called Zignal Labs. Also, the story of Zignal's research results has been reported by multiple news outlets, which a quick google search will verify.
JackStraw
Do you mean a source that has won 69 Pulitzer Prizes for reporting, including breaking the Watergate story? In any case, if you bother to actually read the article you would note that the original source of the information is a data analytics firm called Zignal Labs. Also, the story of Zignal's research results has been reported by multiple news outlets, which a quick google search will verify.[/QUOTE]I'm not questioning the reputation of the Washington Post throughout it's entire history however, it's a fact that since Bezos bought it, it has taken a hard liberal turn. And I did read the article, I just think all MSM is bullshit so those sources mean nothing to me. Thanks for sharing though
Mark
I'm not questioning the reputation of the Washington Post throughout it's entire history however, it's a fact that since Bezos bought it, it has taken a hard liberal turn.[/QUOTE]Is this just another QAnon conspiracy theory, or do you actually have any evidence of this?
Markit
When anyone says "It's a fact" I start ducking and weaving.
Juggler
If you don't read the papers or listen to the news you are uninformed......:confused:If you read the papers and listen to the news you are misinformed......:mad:
