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A Brisbane mother and daughter have narrowly survived being flipped into the air while riding a scooter in Bali.The remarkable escape was captured on security cameras, sparking a reminder for tourists to take extra care while on the holiday island's roads.The footage shows Danni Suriano and 12-year-old Summer go flying as their scooter collides with a van at a Canggu intersection.[MEDIA=facebook]2183884748391727[/MEDIA][URL unfurl="true"]https://www.9news.com.au/national/bali-scooter-crash-canggu-brisbane-mother-daughter-news-world/d6c4d182-bf49-475f-a9f8-55bcaff1d5ed[/URL]
Markit
Again, the stupid Oz press try their damnedest to make this out to be a "Bali" thing and not entirely because the mother was totally a shitty driver.
sakumabali
When in Rome do as the Romans do. When outside of Australia don't expect people ever heard about the "right before left" rule!!
dav733
The van was "flying " going Much too fast ,
Balifrog
Motorcycle didn't even slowed down at the intersection, what do you expect ?
tel522
Unfortunately many inexperienced tourists rent bikes here , in their home country it would be risky , but here with broken roads and bad road manners it is way too risky ,imho.
Markit
Unfortunately many inexperienced tourists rent bikes here , in their home country it would be risky , but here with broken roads and bad road manners it is way too risky ,imho.[/QUOTE]I've been driving both cars and scooters here for years, on many of the islands, and once you understand the rules of the road (largely unwritten) travel here is as safe as anywhere. I would even go so far as to say that the fatalities (not injuries) per 100,000 were lower than the international average, although I'm willing to be corrected if someone has some stats. It just seems to yours truly that people drive much more untutored here but therefore slower and with more caution (excepting the young, who are immortal everywhere). I personally find it safer to go as quickly (yes, I know!) as possible and stay well away from traffic backed up behind gravel trucks and monstrous buses.
tel522
I find a large number of drivers here impatient , the rules of the road mean nothing ,overtaking on blind bends normal ,the bus drivers trained at the " KAMIKAZE " school of motoring ,etc etc etc , but ya Cairo is worse also India .Putting inexperienced tourists scooter riders into the mix , of course will increase their risks of injury or death .
Balifrog
Driving here in Bali is much safer than anywhere in Thailand. Driver behaviour is less agressive and much smoother.Although I guess in big cities like Surabaya or Jakarta its probably a bit "wilder".
tel522
Driving here in Bali is much safer than anywhere in Thailand. Driver behaviour is less agressive and much smoother.Although I guess in big cities like Surabaya or Jakarta its probably a bit "wilder".[/QUOTE]Ya driving in java is worse than here for sure, especially on :jalan pantura" ,but I have seen some "super hero drivers" here . My ugly horn gets plenty of exercise .
Mark
Some euphemistically call it 'lack of education', but the reality is low IQ. Too much high risk, low return behaviour on the roads.
Markit
Some euphemistically call it 'lack of education', but the reality is low IQ. Too much high risk, low return behaviour on the roads.[/QUOTE]That seems to be a pretty harsh opinion. If you want to see a high risk driving have a go on the German autobahns amongst some of the best educated and high IQ people on the planet.
sakumabali
That seems to be a pretty harsh opinion. If you want to see a high risk driving have a go on the German autobahns amongst some of the best educated and high IQ people on the planet.[/QUOTE]I have the pleasure to drive on German autobahn daily - I can't second that. People follow the rules here. If free speed (and not too much traffic) you can drive high speed safely. Theoretically you can do that on Bali as well if not too much traffic BUT drivers here check before changing lanes, it's one direction and w/o access everywhere (means no crossing, no pedestrians, no dogs or children) and no harsh bumps or even holes
Mark
That seems to be a pretty harsh opinion. If you want to see a high risk driving have a go on the German autobahns amongst some of the best educated and high IQ people on the planet.[/QUOTE]I don't think it's too harsh of an opinion, and it doesn't apply to everyone, only to those for whom the shoe obviously fits (and there are quite a few of these people on Bali roads, we all encounter them daily). However in fairness Indonesia isn't the only country suffering from too much unintelligent driving.
Markit
Ok I take it all back - looked at the stats ([URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate[/URL]) and Germany has per capita 1/6th the deaths that Indonesia has. I will say that the German auto is not in the same league, safety wise, as the Indonesian tin cans, but still.
