Direct Flights from Russia Soon?

Chris A

Balifrog wrote [B][COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]IMHO Russians + Ukrainians represent only a very minor proportion of the expats living here, so I don't think they are the main cause of trafffic jams and rental increases.[/COLOR][/B] Them digital nomads and other online "performers", bloggers and vloggers are in bigger numbers. But as the Russians / UKR who are here are not the poor farmer style, they sure have an impact on rental prices. BTW, the main drag in Sanur (Danau Tamblingan) is closed since 09:00 this morning because of the innogoration of ICon mall.... No Russians involved in that mess ! WTF needs this mammoth thing here ? Edit : It seems that is a trial to put this street in one way, the other direction you'll have to take the bypas.....Madness ! It's just gonna attract people from elsewhere and disturb us old sleepy pensioner's siesta.

[B][COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]"IMHO Russians + Ukrainians represent only a very minor proportion of the expats living here, so I don't think they are the main cause of trafffic jams and rental increases."[/COLOR][/B] Here is the data for visitors YTD. You're correct, the Russians represent a smaller percentage of visitors. Why do you think they receive a disproportionate amount of negative publicity or criticism? [B][COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]![](https://balipod.com/uploads/attachments/4114-88220d14b1d7c93ab2dbc0aa2ac6b816.png[/COLOR][/B]

harryopal1

Balifrog wrote IMHO [B]Russians + Ukrainians represent only a very minor proportion of the expats living here, so I don't think they are the main cause of trafffic jams and rental increases.[/B] Them digital nomads and other online "performers", bloggers and vloggers are in bigger numbers. But as the Russians / UKR who are here are not the poor farmer style, they sure have an impact on rental prices. BTW, the main drag in Sanur (Danau Tamblingan) is closed since 09:00 this morning because of the innogoration of ICon mall.... No Russians involved in that mess ! WTF needs this mammoth thing here ? Edit : It seems that is a trial to put this street in one way, the other direction you'll have to take the bypas.....Madness ! It's just gonna attract people from elsewhere and disturb us old sleepy pensioner's siesta.

I daresay you are right. However, my wife is involved in real estate and says it is common to find that up to six or more villa lease may be snapped up by a single Russian for sub letting. She and her colleagues think that Russians have played a significant part in a recent trend that has pushed up rentals by quite a bit.

Shadrach

Balifrog wrote Lit Little bit more risky ! It's all about risk vs reward !

Yea your right, after so many years of misinformation, and outright lies, it would be hard to change the fears of growing and using a medicinal herb, that has helped people for thousands of years! The corrupt system couldn't tolerate not making a huge profit from the pharmaceutical companies! Feeding us chemicals by the boatload! People have almost completely lost the knowledge of natural medicine. I am not saying modern medicine is bad, it's just I think natural and modern medicine can both be used, when needed! But it's OK to start an illegal business under the table, because as you said, many are already doing it!

Shadrach

Yes, I do appreciate that about SE Asia! That's why I have been returning here, for over thirty years! I like the diet, much better, in most of the countries, Thailand, India, Japan, are my favorite cuisines, I am not impressed with the cooking in Bali, I find it very limited, with very little variation, and flavors! Luckily we can find many ingredients, at the various markets, and Supermarkets! And cook, and train people here, to make meals with more flavors! Also I have over the years, been able to compromise, with the Police, over minor traffic infractions, which would have been impossible in America! I do wish they could find more flexibility with Marijuana, and not consider it so bad, and compare it to Narcotics, which is not true at all! It could help a lot of people with relieving negative side effects from Cancer treatment, Epilepsy, Optical ailments, many children's ailments, etc. Now there many forms of of extracts, CBD, tinctures, oils, tablets, where a person can consume without having to smoke! It has been clinically proven to provide aid to people! As we know, The Corrupt, Pharmaceutical corporations, pay billions of dollars providing false information, to keep the masses ignorant of Natural medicines, so they can make Billions of Dollars profit selling sometimes harmful chemicals! It's time the People, take back more control of their own lives, and stop this Corruption!

Chris A

Amen! It's far better to ask (pay for?) forgiveness than to beg for permission.

I agree. We all enjoy some increased flexibility and it's just how the world goes around in as Bali Frog says "exotic locations" along w/ most of the not so exotic locations I had the privilege of working in throughout my career. Most of this flexibility was carried out in a discrete fashion and just a generally accepted normal way of life. No harm - no foul. As I mentioned in a previous post, at some point we are all distilled down to "bule" in the local folk's eyes and the actions of a few that flaunt and are just outright overt w/ the flexibility will or could F it up for the rest of us. Here's an article from the Bali Sun that is a notorious bule bashing publication. When more and more of these types of articles are published, the harder it is for the authorities to ignore the problem and action will be inevitable. Let's face it, ignoring the problem is the preferred method of dealing (not) with the plethora of issues Bali has. What's the solution to the problem? I don't think there is one other than letting the problem run its course and let's all hope all of us more reasonable participants in the flexibility don't get caught up in the net or subjected to some of what will surely be very illogical solutions that the local or national authorities come up with to deal with the issue. Bali Sun Article

Chris A

Markit wrote The article and sentiment lack any true vitriol of the wronged local - it's more a "fill page 3 with something" kind of writing. Fact is everyone of the locals can well remember the last 10 years of dire hardship (volcanoes, earthquakes, pandemic, etc.) interspersed with booming tourism and is happy it is like it is now. Won't stop the bitching but that's part of the fun. I wouldn't take it too seriously.

I guess we'll see, huh? The wildcard may be the elections being held in November of this year for the Governor, the Vice Governor, a handful of Regents including Badung and Gianyar regencies, and the mayor of Denpasar. It depends on how much pandering is done to win the hearts and minds of the constituents. Reminds me of another country. ;)

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