Tourists arrested for camping out during Nyepi

Shadrach

In Buleleng a large crowd of rowdy locals on motorbikes (Madurese according to the dialect spoken) headed for a beach outing on Nyepi day, ignoring Pacalang request to turn back! Will they be "deported" back to Madura? Our house in South Denpasar was dark and in silence. My local neighbours (from NT) gave a shit about Nyepi. Sitting outside all evening, drinking, shouting, lights on. "Deportation" back to NT or? Nah. The locals will not be "deported". It is more fashionable going after the odd uninformed bule. https://www.detik.com/bali/berita/d-6633686/warga-ngotot-rekreasi-ke-pantai-saat-nyepi-lawan-barisan-pecalang

Very good point about the double standards. Locals can go to the beach make business in Denpasar, use electricity, party, but tourists are big criminals for sitting in a bale by the beach. It's just another way of extorting money from tourists. I was guite shocked reading the reactions of the folks on the forum. Taser them, shoot them, lock them up, wow that's pretty intense. This is the only reaction that made sense and made a good point. Thanks.

YachtRock

Padangbai Dennis wrote I saw many reactions to this topic. Some very aggresive, some showing locals making business in Denpasar on Nyepi. The tourist were not handling it well. They were nervous and didn't know how to react. Eating and arguing. So they didn't handle it the situation very well. I don't think it is a crime to be sitting in a bale minding your own business on Nyepi. Why don't people have the right to camp on the beaches, empty bales, or in the mountains by a river or lake without renting or paying? People in the west do this all the time. As long as their respectful for peoples property and don't bother anyone or break laws then why not camp for free? Is it that we are just allowed to stay here as long as we pay, pay, pay! I'm sure they would go to the local warungs, restaurants, laundry, and such and support the locals that way. It could be a good experience for all. Lighten up some.

It literally is a crime though to be outside while on Nyepi. If this was any other normal day, it wouldn't be an issue. They should respect the local culture, rules, and customs, or get out. If they don't agree with it, then it's their right but perhaps better to go live somewhere that is better suited to their personality.

Balifrog

Padangbai Dennis wrote Very good point about the double standards. Locals can go to the beach make business in Denpasar, use electricity, party, but tourists are big criminals for sitting in a bale by the beach. It's just another way of extorting money from tourists. I was guite shocked reading the reactions of the folks on the forum. Taser them, shoot them, lock them up, wow that's pretty intense. This is the only reaction that made sense and made a good point. Thanks.

Tourists or even "residents" are NOT locals ! It is as simple as that. So, locals can do thing tourists can not. Same goes in my village in France, and if a bloody tourist doesn't like it we'll be happy to show him the way out. Hell, I have lived / worked in a dozen countries (some 8 and 10 years), I always knew my limits as an immigrant ! (And don't give me the "guest" B.S., a guest in my house respects MY rules, and it's not negociable, even for my kids.)

YachtRock

Balifrog wrote Tourists or even "residents" are NOT locals ! It is as simple as that. So, locals can do thing tourists can not. Same goes in my village in France, and if a bloody tourist doesn't like it we'll be happy to show him the way out. Hell, I have lived / worked in a dozen countries (some 8 and 10 years), I always knew my limits as an immigrant ! (And don't give me the "guest" B.S., a guest in my house respects MY rules, and it's not negociable, even for my kids.)

I can confirm this! My sister and her family are 2 years into their French expat experience and they have shared plenty of stories of their "learning experiences" with the French. They eventually figured out they don't have the same limits as native French citizens and probably never will. It's something all expats should come to terms with.

AuroraB

Latest Bali idea; Register online and wait (a year) for approval to visit Bali! Some laughable quotes with round generalization of all the thousands who bother to visit; Gov. Koster: “We will no longer welcome mass tourism. We will restrict [tourist numbers] by implementing a quota system. Koster explained that one possible quota system would require foreign tourists to register a year before their planned visit to Bali, and wait for their turn to be granted entry. Gov. Koster: If we let this go on, then we will only attract cheap tourists who maybe just eat nasi bungkus (rice dish wrapped in banana leaves or paper), rent motorbikes and break [traffic laws], and, lastly, steal from ATMs," https://coconuts.co/bali/news/bali-governor-wayan-koster-mulls-putting-cap-on-tourist-arrivals/

Shadrach

Latest Bali idea; Register online and wait (a year) for approval to visit Bali! Some laughable quotes with round generalization of all the thousands who bother to visit; Gov. Koster: “We will no longer welcome mass tourism. We will restrict [tourist numbers] by implementing a quota system. Koster explained that one possible quota system would require foreign tourists to register a year before their planned visit to Bali, and wait for their turn to be granted entry. Gov. Koster: If we let this go on, then we will only attract cheap tourists who maybe just eat nasi bungkus (rice dish wrapped in banana leaves or paper), rent motorbikes and break [traffic laws], and, lastly, steal from ATMs," https://coconuts.co/bali/news/bali-governor-wayan-koster-mulls-putting-cap-on-tourist-arrivals/

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