Nusa Lembongan - Building costs.

Glyn

No problems, have a great day.

Glyn

Glyn wrote Hi Geoffd, My email is , [EMAIL]glyntaylor648@gmail.com[/EMAIL] Cheers Glyn

Hi Geoffd, I will private msg you soon when i have 10 msg on this platform.

Glyn

Glyn wrote Hi Geoffd, I will private msg you soon when i have 10 msg on this platform.

Some history on the process / journey prior to final selection...cont.

Glyn

Over the period of approx. 18months i went to Indonesia every 3 months just looking at various popular areas that could be reached in one day or less from Denpasar.

Shadrach

I find it is difficult learning a new language if the teacher doesn't speak your language also. I find it helpful to write things down. It helps me with practicing and pronunciation. I have an app on my computer that translate English to Indonesian, but it won't do Balinese. When you learn to speak here they mix up the Indo and Balinese and a foreigner doesn't realize it. Like the other person said. They mix up words even in Indonesian. Java speaks Bahasa Indonesia different that many words spoken here. Some people are very good at learning languages and some it's more difficult. Markit made a good point about moving where you are isolated.

Shadrach

This is a funny conversation. 6.5 juta for a square meter. You might as well be in New York, London, Or Paris for these kind of prices. The concept of buying land is an illusion. If you don't pay your taxes the government takes it back. So basically you are just renting. I remember in the States the native people said to the white man when he came and wanted to buy Seattle. Chief Seattle said, how can we sell the land? We don't own it. We are just caretakers. How do you buy the land, the wind, the sunshine. The fish, water, streams.. this is just a concept is brought over from Europe. Life is short, just be thankful to be here for a short while. And don't get attached to possessions. All things will pass. And the new will come. It's the cycle of the universe. Peace .

AuroraB

This is a funny conversation. 6.5 juta for a square meter. You might as well be in New York, London, Or Paris for these kind of prices. The concept of buying land is an illusion. If you don't pay your taxes the government takes it back. So basically you are just renting. I remember in the States the native people said to the white man when he came and wanted to buy Seattle. Chief Seattle said, how can we sell the land? We don't own it. We are just caretakers. How do you buy the land, the wind, the sunshine. The fish, water, streams.. this is just a concept is brought over from Europe. Life is short, just be thankful to be here for a short while. And don't get attached to possessions. All things will pass. And the new will come. It's the cycle of the universe. Peace .

How Much Land Does a Man Need? Six feet according to Leo Tolstoy in his short story with the same title. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Much_Land_Does_a_Man_Need%3F "Pahom goes to buy as much of their land for as low a price as he can negotiate. Their offer is very unusual: for a sum of one thousand rubles, Pahom can walk around as large an area as he wants, starting at daybreak, marking his route with a spade along the way. If he returns to his starting point by sunset that day, all the land his route encloses will be his, but if he does not reach his starting point, he will lose his money and receive no land. He is delighted, as he believes that he can cover a great distance and has chanced upon the bargain of a lifetime. That night, Pahom experiences a surreal dream in which he sees himself lying dead by the feet of the Devil, who is laughing. He stays out as late as possible, marking out land until just before the sun sets. Toward the end, he realizes he is far from the starting point and runs back as fast as he can to the waiting Bashkirs. He finally arrives at the starting point just as the sun sets. The Bashkirs cheer his good fortune, but exhausted from the run, Pahom drops dead. His servant buries him in an ordinary grave only six feet long, thus answering the question posed in the title of the story."

Glyn

AuroraB wrote I live in a two year old villa "west" Sanur inside a complex. The builder is well reputed Sanur based Balinese. The villa is enclosed concept with 4 bedrooms and 5 bathrooms, total 150m2 over two levels. Building is attached to full garage (25m2) and lower standard maid quarter (60m2). Good quality wood windows and doors. Roof extended via wood framing to provide shade. Large western style kitchen. Ground floor is elevated well above ground level to prevent water ingress and no mold seen so far. With pool and bale. I was told total cost 1.5 Milyar all in -- around 6.5 juta per m2 including garage and maid quarter. The villa is fully furnished which I assume is extra.

Hello AuroraB Wow sounds nice pad and a honest price for what you are getting, well done. Cheers Glyn

Markit

Glyn wrote Over the period of approx. 18months i went to Indonesia every 3 months just looking at various popular areas that could be reached in one day or less from Denpasar.

There is no place on Bali that cannot be reached in one day. Distance should not be the deciding factor in your choice of new home location. Although with online shopping growing in leaps and bounds infrastructure is not as important as it used to be there are certain things you still will want to go to a shop and/or talk to someone about. Note also your access to good staff will also be important - unless you speak excellent Indonesian you'll want people that can understand English so you shouldn't be too far out in the boonies. The occasional beer with expats will also be welcome I'm sure. I can go on...

Shadrach

Padangbai Dennis wrote This is a funny conversation. 6.5 juta for a square meter. You might as well be in New York, London, Or Paris for these kind of prices. The concept of buying land is an illusion. If you don't pay your taxes the government takes it back. So basically you are just renting. I remember in the States the native people said to the white man when he came and wanted to buy Seattle. Chief Seattle said, how can we sell the land? We don't own it. We are just caretakers. How do you buy the land, the wind, the sunshine. The fish, water, streams.. this is just a concept is brought over from Europe. Life is short, just be thankful to be here for a short while. And don't get attached to possessions. All things will pass. And the new will come. It's the cycle of the universe. Peace .

Markit wrote There is no place on Bali that cannot be reached in one day. Distance should not be the deciding factor in your choice of new home location. Although with online shopping growing in leaps and bounds infrastructure is not as important as it used to be there are certain things you still will want to go to a shop and/or talk to someone about. Note also your access to good staff will also be important - unless you speak excellent Indonesian you'll want people that can understand English so you shouldn't be too far out in the boonies. The occasional beer with expats will also be welcome I'm sure. I can go on...

This reminds of a song I heard years ago from a band then named Peter Pan. It' called Diatas Normal. Pikiranku tak dapat kumengerti, kaki de kapala, kepala di kaki. That seems to be normal living here. I like the occasional beer part!

gtrken

Markit wrote There is no place on Bali that cannot be reached in one day. Note also your access to good staff will also be important - unless you speak excellent Indonesian you'll want people that can understand English so you shouldn't be too far out in the boonies. The occasional beer with expats will also be welcome I'm sure. I can go on...

Have to agree with that. If you live somewhere with no English/Yank/Oz speaking people around it can get boring real fast unless you want to immerse your self into the local language. My finding is that a lot of Indonesian people do not speak the same indonesian as you may be taught in classes. A bit like an Englishman listening to an Aussie talking. It's both English language but indecipherable ... Cheers Ken

Glyn

gtrken wrote Have to agree with that. If you live somewhere with no English/Yank/Oz speaking people around it can get boring real fast unless you want to immerse your self into the local language. My finding is that a lot of Indonesian people do not speak the same indonesian as you may be taught in classes. A bit like an Englishman listening to an Aussie talking. It's both English language but indecipherable ... Cheers Ken

Yes i agree with everything you are saying , i think trying to learn a new language would be hard for many people going to a new country to live. Cheers Glyn

Glyn

gtrken wrote Have to agree with that. If you live somewhere with no English/Yank/Oz speaking people around it can get boring real fast unless you want to immerse your self into the local language. My finding is that a lot of Indonesian people do not speak the same indonesian as you may be taught in classes. A bit like an Englishman listening to an Aussie talking. It's both English language but indecipherable ... Cheers Ken

Yeah your point about access to good staff is, for me anyway, a very important factor to consider. Cheers Glyn

Markit

As a rule of thumb the closer you get to Seminyak/Cangu or Ubud the more expensive things get, significantly. The funny thing is its also a moving target -10 years ago Kuta and Seminyak were the only places for "in" crowd (willing to pay lots) would consider. Now Kuta has died and Seminyak is going slowly with Cangu and Ubud bursting at the seams. Choose carefully! particularly if you also intend to live there - both of the "in" places are hateful to live in now.

Shadrach

Markit wrote As a rule of thumb the closer you get to Seminyak/Cangu or Ubud the more expensive things get, significantly. The funny thing is its also a moving target -10 years ago Kuta and Seminyak were the only places for "in" crowd (willing to pay lots) would consider. Now Kuta has died and Seminyak is going slowly with Cangu and Ubud bursting at the seams. Choose carefully! particularly if you also intend to live there - both of the "in" places are hateful to live in now.

Glyn

Markit wrote As a rule of thumb the closer you get to Seminyak/Cangu or Ubud the more expensive things get, significantly. The funny thing is its also a moving target -10 years ago Kuta and Seminyak were the only places for "in" crowd (willing to pay lots) would consider. Now Kuta has died and Seminyak is going slowly with Cangu and Ubud bursting at the seams. Choose carefully! particularly if you also intend to live there - both of the "in" places are hateful to live in now.

Yeah , good food for thought. Cheers Glyn

Glyn

Markit wrote There is no place on Bali that cannot be reached in one day. Distance should not be the deciding factor in your choice of new home location. Although with online shopping growing in leaps and bounds infrastructure is not as important as it used to be there are certain things you still will want to go to a shop and/or talk to someone about. Note also your access to good staff will also be important - unless you speak excellent Indonesian you'll want people that can understand English so you shouldn't be too far out in the boonies. The occasional beer with expats will also be welcome I'm sure. I can go on...

Hi Markit, Yes i hear what u r saying about distance ( re. "reached in one day ") and you are right . I should have explained that a bit better :- if it is a villa location that will be utilised / marketed to tourists then i would take distance into consideration but for personal / private use i'm in agreement with you.

Markit

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Shadrach

Well you have to admit. Thirty years ago Kuta was so full of thieves and prostitutes, it's not a loss to see it go. The problem now is Canngu and Ubud getting so crowded and expensive they have lost the magic also. It's not only tourist but the locals are looking for big bucks and have created traffic jams. The new tourist haven't a clue on fair prices so the cost goes up and up. Yea you can can get a tasty meal, coffee fancy villa, and the like, but turning these places into spas, gyms, crazy priced accommodation, it loses the magic of Bali. If this is the way of the future, I am feeling left behind in my way of trying to learn about the land and the culture of Bali, like it was long ago when us tourist were first coming. If this is what people want then they can have it. I'm going to Karangasem where it is still slower and more chill. To each their own.Peace

Glyn

Hello meremortal , Oooh that was an expensive exercise. Hope you are in control next time , if there is another time. Yeah like Markit , i need a Bex and a lay down after reading meremortal experience .

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