jogry blok
Hi, Where can I find a funeral director? we have to keep up to date
Bert Vierstra
Jogry...
I think that in your case you'd best arrange things with the physician that has the most experience with this (for foreigners) in "our" area, Dr. Handra and ask your question there.
Write down what you want "done", and also tell Neil ;)
jogry blok
Good idea, thanks :)
Roy
Jogry! What the "bleep" are you talking about? This is very disturbing for me, having lost my "brother" Matt, and most recently, two other close friends.
If you want to know how you will be handled as a non Hindu bule, dead in Bali...I can give you all the gruesome details, but I would surely prefer we do this by PM.
Funeral directors in Bali? :shock: :shock: :shock:
Thorsten
Roy,
I guess Jogry is looking for somebody to prepare her own funeral, something older people in general are thinking about.
So I think it’s only accurate to raise such a question in consideration that every life will end some time.
I don’t know why there should be anything disturbing for you in it, it’s a part of life and sooner or later we all will have to occupy with this.
best regards
Thorsten
Bert Vierstra
Still interesting to know what happens if a Bule dies, and has nothing special arranged............
pooochie
[b]No discourtesy to this thread: [/b]
My husband jokes and says he wants to have his head frozen (just in case), it only costs £50K, he can't afford the rest. :lol: Perhaps in the future he may be able to get a bit more :lol: I wonder which bit he will choose :shock:
Thorsten
frozen ? hmmm :roll:
[quote]I wonder which bit he will choose [/quote]
there comes only one part in my mind, fozen even useful when dead :oops:
you like it on the rocks? 8) :shock:
I couldn't resist! :lol:
Thorsten
Hi JabberWokker
[quote]It would be my heart so I can go on loving my darling wife[/quote]
THAT was charming!!!
[quote]I have little experience of the Balinese way so feel uneducated on this matter[/quote]
Hey guy, you are married to a Balinese, in the consequence of your statement [b]I[/b] should stop posting right now!
Maybe another poll? :oops:
best regards
Thorsten
matsaleh
Roy, even though this subject seems in bad taste, for anyone planning to take up residence in Bali and "getting on" in life, thoughts of death do come to mind. We're not immortal after all.
The information you provided regarding registering with the local consulate was useful, so many thanks.
jogry blok
Thanks Roy for your second reply. I am sorry if I have upset you with my question.but as far as I am aware this was a normal question.
Neil and I are 72,77 and living permanently in Bali,we have to be practical and realistic, no one lives on forever. In the western world you organise these things so that the family does not have all the trouble. Loosing a loved one, like you know, is a terrible and hurtful experience. Our only daughter lives in New Zealand and we would like this to be organised for her( we are not dead yet!!)
Thanks Bert, I will contact the doctor in singaraja
jogry blok
Reading the answers to my question it created quite a stirr!!
I realise that special when you are young, one does not want to think about these things, but it happens.
I think there is an opening for a funeral director business in Bali. What about it, for the people who are looking for business
Roy
Mats writes:
[quote]Roy, even though this subject seems in bad taste, for anyone planning to take up residence in Bali and "getting on" in life, thoughts of death do come to mind. We're not immortal after all. [/quote]
No, this topic is not at all in "bad taste" it's just painful. Sorry if it seems I made too big of deal out of it.
No Jogry, as Mats points out, it is entirely a very legitimate topic. As she points out, none of are immortal, and the truth be known, my own arrangements, to be followed by one hell of a party, have already been made. :D
jogry blok
I am pleased to hear that Roy, I gave instruction in my will, to play, when the Saints come marching in(LOL) not possible here.
JabberWokker
[b]Re: RE: funeral director[/b]
[quote=pooochie]I wonder which bit he will choose :shock:[/quote]
Hi Thorsten,
It would be my heart so I can go on loving my darling wife :oops:
As with Steve Austin "A man ... Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. We have the technology". Implants the American way :lol: or maybe by then there will be lots of cheap Chinese parts.
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[b]TO ALL:
I must add at this point, a note I have been meaning to say for a while:[/b]
I am not, and will not become an active poster in this forum until I move to Bali - [u]please appreciate this[/u]. I have little experience of the Balinese way so feel uneducated on this matter. However once I move, I will have lots of questions for the expats living in Bali. I am sure they can help me adjust. After time, when I am settled I will also be able to contribute my learning to others. But don't worry if I am like the the British balibounder (whatever he is called) I will buy the gun :lol:
JabberWokker
[quote=Thorsten] I should stop posting right now!
Maybe another poll? :oops:
[/quote]
You are totally wrong. [u][b]NO NO NO[/b][/u] you should not. You have much more experience of the Island than me. Yes I understand the Balinese way, with experience of my Westernised Balinese wife living in the West and meeting lots of Indonesian people, mainly from Bali. However my experience of Bali itself is minuscule.
Maybe I am wrong, so okay I admit it, I am just one of those type of people that like to say things more based on experience than opinion, As we all know opinions without facts on this forum can get you into some very sticky situations. I have lots of things I could say but wish to reserve my judgement until I experience things properly.
I am not saying I won’t post, just saying that it will be very little until I am in Bali. Sorry for that, but it is what I am happy with.
My forum experience is normally brief as I am one of those nerd type people that is always on the computer, its my job, and use this type of system for gaining knowledge on problems rather than simple chat. This forum is very interesting to me as it is about what I want to do with my life, I look at the Bali expats with envy and think I want to be there, and I will….. the sooner the better….. I am looking forward to beating Roy at chess :lol: and playing football with some dodgy guy :)
Plus to add to this my wife loves your posts. So don't get me in trouble :roll:
Roy
OK, so you want details, here are the details. A dead “bule” or tamu is taken to the morgue at Sangla (sp?) hospital in Denpasar. There are no such things as a “nice” morgue, but the morgue at Sangla is particularly gruesome. If the police require an autopsy, that is where it will be performed, but these are rare and only conducted if the death seems suspicious.
The stench of death there is everywhere. Once the identity of the corpse is established, the appropriate local consulate is notified. Ask any consul representing any country, and they will tell you that this is the worst part of their job...tracking down family members of deceased citizens of their country and coordinating “disposal” or release of the body.
If no family can be located, or if the family refuses to claim the corpse, it is taken to the Chinese cemetery near Jimbaran and cremated. This is another very gruesome place located right behind the Chinese graveyard. It is a gas fired crematorium, effective, but out in the open and more reminiscent of Nazi expediency than anything else. There is nothing ceremonial about this place. Rather it is simply an effective machine designed for one thing...the efficient cremation of human remains.
The Indonesian gentleman who is charged with fulfilling the Indonesian legal issues is actually a very nice man. He has a thankless, horrible job, yet somehow he is able to present himself in a caring manner, and is very sensitive to family needs. Where he gets the courage and kindness in conducting his job, I have no idea.
Anyone moving to Bali who will be on their own, should most definitely register with their consulate. If it is important to that person, who will be here without family, how they are taken care of in the event of their death, than advance arrangements can be made, and access to funds made available, to their consulate office.
