Does anybody know how to deter Landak or porcupines from attacking the garden. They are slowly destroying the garden.

JackStraw

They have fucking porcupines in Bali? :eek:

harryopal

Foamcrest wrote our garden is nightly being eaten by porcupines or Landak. At first, when we found a few quills we were quit chuffed and collected the dropped quills as a souvenir but now the damage to plants is becoming quite serious. Any suggestions as to how to deter them?

Lynx, bobcats, coyotes, wolves, wolverines, great horned owls and mountain lions are all predators of porcupines. If you sprinkle a few of them around your garden that would probably work. Otherwise, sorry. No other ideas.

Foamcrest

Ask a silly question…..

harryopal

Foamcrest wrote Ask a silly question…..

It's my answer that is silly not the question. Perfectly reasonable. I hope someone comes up with an answer for you. My only experiences with porcupine were in Kenya. Masai friends on the fringe of Amboseli had huge porcupines eat their corn. I think they dealt with them, unfortunately, by killing them. Meeting a group of Pokot women in the north, they came up out of a deep valley where they had been panning for gold. They kept their gold flakes in the big porcupine quills. [ATTACH type="full" alt="1623396368950.png"]3479[/ATTACH]

JackStraw

harryopal wrote It's my answer that is silly not the question. Perfectly reasonable. I hope someone comes up with an answer for you. My only experiences with porcupine were in Kenya. Masai friends on the fringe of Amboseli had huge porcupines eat their corn. I think they dealt with them, unfortunately, by killing them. Meeting a group of Pokot women in the north, they came up out of a deep valley where they had been panning for gold. They kept their gold flakes in the big porcupine quills. [ATTACH type="full" alt="1623396368950.png"]3479[/ATTACH]

wow! That's wild. What was it like living in Africa? how does it compare to Indo?

Foamcrest

our garden is nightly being eaten by porcupines or Landak. At first, when we found a few quills we were quit chuffed and collected the dropped quills as a souvenir but now the damage to plants is becoming quite serious. Any suggestions as to how to deter them?

Zimbo

Foamcrest wrote our garden is nightly being eaten by porcupines or Landak. At first, when we found a few quills we were quit chuffed and collected the dropped quills as a souvenir but now the damage to plants is becoming quite serious. Any suggestions as to how to deter them?

Try a mixture of mothballs and sulphur. (I'm from Africa!)

Foamcrest

Thanks Zimbo for the advice, now all I have to do is find where I can buy mothballs and sulphur locally. Sadly I think I’ll just have to put up with the little plant eating pests. Maybe the giant monitor lizard will eat a few? Thanks anyway.

Markit

a dog

harryopal

JackStraw wrote wow! That's wild. What was it like living in Africa? how does it compare to Indo?

Well, there are 54 African countries and any single one will have huge variations in manners and living conditions. The differences then would be as marked as living with blow pipe hunting Punans or living in a Jakarta tower. But, as a simple answer, mainly fascinating and not without potential mishaps. Most African countries have rapidly growing populations and not enough jobs. In the absence of social security for many it becomes starve or steal. If you go down that path stakes are high. In one six month period in Kenya there were some hundreds beaten to death by mobs when the cry of "thief" went up. Lynchings are not uncommon and extra judicial killings by Kenyan police are usually in excess of 100 each year. So a thief is more likely to carry a knife or weapon to avoid capture. Inevitably innocent people are caught up in the mob response For all that it seems many Africans live more in the moment and are more spontaneous than westerners. Encountering a long time no see friend we are likely to spend two enthusiastic minutes and promise to catch up again soon. Africans are more disposed to immediately go off together for coffee or a drink. As seems almost universal, the ordinary common people are kind and friendly. At the same time westerners are assumed to be wealthy, which we are relatively so one needs to be careful.

JackStraw

harryopal wrote Well, there are 54 African countries and any single one will have huge variations in manners and living conditions. The differences then would be as marked as living with blow pipe hunting Punans or living in a Jakarta tower. But, as a simple answer, mainly fascinating and not without potential mishaps. Most African countries have rapidly growing populations and not enough jobs. In the absence of social security for many it becomes starve or steal. If you go down that path stakes are high. In one six month period in Kenya there were some hundreds beaten to death by mobs when the cry of "thief" went up. Lynchings are not uncommon and extra judicial killings by Kenyan police are usually in excess of 100 each year. So a thief is more likely to carry a knife or weapon to avoid capture. Inevitably innocent people are caught up in the mob response For all that it seems many Africans live more in the moment and are more spontaneous than westerners. Encountering a long time no see friend we are likely to spend two enthusiastic minutes and promise to catch up again soon. Africans are more disposed to immediately go off together for coffee or a drink. As seems almost universal, the ordinary common people are kind and friendly. At the same time westerners are assumed to be wealthy, which we are relatively so one needs to be careful.

Thanks for the vivid description. Makes me feel blessed I get to live in wonderful Indonesia in comparison to something more extreme like you just said

joji gulapetis

Foamcrest wrote Thanks Zimbo for the advice, now all I have to do is find where I can buy mothballs and sulphur locally. Sadly I think I’ll just have to put up with the little plant eating pests. Maybe the giant monitor lizard will eat a few? Thanks anyway.

joji gulapetis

camphor is everywhere ... supermarkets .... Kapur Barus, or Kamper ..... Sulphur may be harder to find. Look for shops that sell chemicals "Too Kimia" .... ask for Belerang

Foamcrest

Thanks so much for that advice. We are in lockdown in Sydney but I will forward your advice to our caretaker in Penestanan who I’m sure can buy moth balls up in Bintang. ThanKs again.

Shadrach

JackStraw wrote They have fucking porcupines in Bali? :eek:

That’s usually how species procreate!

Foamcrest

Padanbai Ive just chatted to the caretaker and he says he’s tried the moth balls with no luck. Now he suggested buying a trap for rp600,000 delivered which I thought a little expensive but what would I know. Anyone happen to have a spare trap in the their storeroom or know where I can buy one either close to Penestanan or with a small delivery charge?

Shadrach

harryopal wrote It's my answer that is silly not the question. Perfectly reasonable. I hope someone comes up with an answer for you. My only experiences with porcupine were in Kenya. Masai friends on the fringe of Amboseli had huge porcupines eat their corn. I think they dealt with them, unfortunately, by killing them. Meeting a group of Pokot women in the north, they came up out of a deep valley where they had been panning for gold. They kept their gold flakes in the big porcupine quills. [ATTACH type="full" alt="1623396368950.png"]3479[/ATTACH]

Wow, I never heard of Porcupines in Bali. That’s a new one to me. I would like some of what your smoking. I used to see them in Amerika, by the Canadian border. Big ole lumbering things that climb the big Pine trees. Sometimes Peoples dogs would mess with them andof course you know what happened. A mouthful of Quills. The crazy thing is, some of those dogs never learned to stop. The smart ones did though. The Native folks used to make beautiful buckskin clothing and use the quills for decoration. They would soak them then hold in their mouths to soften them up. Something about the saliva I guess. This was long before the Europeans brought the glass ones. We learrned how to make the leather and our own clothes, but the quill work was a little to intense for me. Very time consuming, but it shore was mighty purty!

Foamcrest

Now he’s found one for rp950,000 not including delivery!…I can buy a lot of plants for that sort on money. Now I’ve got possums eating my succulents here in Sydney. Bunnings have a spray called “Poss Off” which might do the trick. Don’t suppose they have one called “Pork Off” by any chance.

Shadrach

They prab

Foamcrest wrote Now he’s found one for rp950,000 not including delivery!…I can buy a lot of plants for that sort on money. Now I’ve got possums eating my succulents here in Sydney. Bunnings have a spray called “Poss Off” which might do the trick. Don’t suppose they have one called “Pork Off” by any chance.

well they might have one for the Rabbits called Jack Off!

Markit

Try these. We've found they work for small to large and have the benefit of not killing the detainee. https://www.tokopedia.com/dramashop/kotak-jaring-jebakan-perangkap-kandang-tikus-masal-mouse-trap-sedang?whid=0 P.S. I think you're getting shafted by your man...