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cosmos

Has anyone heard or know when expats, kitas/kitap holders will get the vaccinations in Bali, it appears to be only citizens mentioned atm , i can understand that, they come first but it stands to reason, it better to vaccinate everyone, I,m presuming as a kitas holder, i would need to pay privately, does anyone know of any doctors that have mentioned this. thanks. AL

Juggler

I wont be taking the chinese vaccine even if its free. I would rather pay for the Pfizer or AZ one. At least thier effectivity rate is in the 90% not 50%.

PERtoDPS

Juggler wrote I wont be taking the chinese vaccine even if its free. I would rather pay for the Pfizer or AZ one. At least thier effectivity rate is in the 90% not 50%.

Agreed with that, seems to have little if any respect in the western world. No problem if you're permanently here I guess, but I am not.

cosmos

Wether you take it or not, is up to you, but that wasnt the question i asked, you are obviously in a different position from myself and many other expats in Bali, who want to get back to homes around the world, and refuse to pay for outrageous flight fees and quarantine. i have waited over a year to see my family, so any jab that gets me a flight without quarantine, i think most expats in Bali will take it, i realize its an exceptionally bad flu, so any jab will help, and if i grow another ear in six months i,ll cut the bugger off.

gtrken

cosmos wrote Wether you take it or not, is up to you, but that wasnt the question i asked, you are obviously in a different position from myself and many other expats in Bali, who want to get back to homes around the world, and refuse to pay for outrageous flight fees and quarantine. i have waited over a year to see my family, so any jab that gets me a flight without quarantine, i think most expats in Bali will take it, i realize its an exceptionally bad flu, so any jab will help, and if i grow another ear in six months i,ll cut the bugger off.

ATM in Western Australia, the vaccine will not stop you still going into quarantine. That info was last updated 27th Feb

cosmos

Hope you are wrong, thanks for getting back to me

matsaleh

From Australian Government Department of Health, updated 22 February, 2021 [ATTACH type="full" alt="3422"]3422[/ATTACH] From this website: Dept of Health - Will I be exempt from quarantining if I am vaccinated.

harryopal

cosmos wrote Wether you take it or not, is up to you, but that wasnt the question i asked, you are obviously in a different position from myself and many other expats in Bali, who want to get back to homes around the world, and refuse to pay for outrageous flight fees and quarantine. i have waited over a year to see my family, so any jab that gets me a flight without quarantine, i think most expats in Bali will take it, i realize its an exceptionally bad flu, so any jab will help, and if i grow another ear in six months i,ll cut the bugger off.

I doubt that having a vaccine with certificate will free you from having to quarantine. Europeans are disagreeing about a vaccine "passport" idea and I have seen nothing to suggest Australia will accept proof of having had a vaccine means you might not still be a virus carrier. What with new mutations and so much uncertainty I think are we some way from simple travel arrangements.

harryopal

Living in Jimbaran and my WNI wife sponsor received an App this morning from the local Banjar about registering for vaccinations. Having always avoided flu shots my inclination is I would prefer not to have a Covid 19 vaccination but realistically, the way things are shaping up it seems, for future travel, one may need a certificate showing vaccination so will register and get it over and done with. On the other hand vaccinations may have a limited life and it may be another year or more before travel becomes viable. And registering is one thing but how long before the vaccinations begin here? Ahh well, what is life without complications?

tel522

harryopal wrote Living in Jimbaran and my WNI wife sponsor received an App this morning from the local Banjar about registering for vaccinations. Having always avoided flu shots my inclination is I would prefer not to have a Covid 19 vaccination but realistically, the way things are shaping up it seems, for future travel, one may need a certificate showing vaccination so will register and get it over and done with. On the other hand vaccinations may have a limited life and it may be another year or more before travel becomes viable. And registering is one thing but how long before the vaccinations begin here? Ahh well, what is life without complications?

Hi harry let us know how you go on with this app ,we did the same a few days ago ,I am wary of this chinese vaccine ,but no one has "cocked their clogs" and the efficacy seems below parr ,but better than nowt . There is much confusion online re this app even local are confused ,surprise surprise ,

matsaleh

[USER=19446]@harryopal[/USER], I'd suggest you wait for a while before registering for the vaccination as a foreign resident. Evidently 2 foreigners were vaccinated under the free vaccination program last week and it has caused some controversy among Indonesian netizens. [SIZE=7]Not Entering Priority, Two Elderly Foreign Citizens Get Free Vaccination in Bali[/SIZE] Denpasar, IDN Times - The public was again enlivened by the posting of a foreign citizen (WNA) on the Lawrence Bmb Facebook account , on Thursday (4/3/2021). The post wrote that two foreigners got free COVID-19 vaccination on Thursday morning at around 11.00 WITA at a community health center in Sanur, South Denpasar District. The public then wondered, were they included in the priority list of recipients of the COVID-19 vaccine? Following are the facts of two elderly foreigners who received free vaccination in Bali. [SIZE=6]1. This account documents the vaccination process and writes how foreigners who hold KITAS can get free vaccinations[/SIZE] IDN Times saw the Lawrence Bmb Facebook account uploaded several times with various captions, and attached a link to the explanation regarding the COVID-19 vaccination. One of his writings is: "One of my good friends and I are going to recieve our first Covid 19 shot in Sanur in an hour." The article was uploaded on Thursday (4/3/2021). He then explained his condition and promised to provide detailed information about the whole process on his blog. Then on Friday (5/3/2021), he again uploaded a photo accompanied by a link to his blog with the caption : "Ten Steps to receive free Covid-19 Vaccination for Senior Indonesian Citizens & Foreign KITAS Holders." IDN Times has contacted the owner of the account to confirm at 10.39 WITA, Friday (5/3/2021). However, until this news was published, there was no response from those concerned. Then IDN Times opened a blog link containing 10 steps to get free COVID-19 vaccination for elderly citizens and foreigners who hold KITAS. Here are the contents: Step By Step Process to be Inoculated: (1) First you must have KITAS or KTP that identifies you as 60 or older in Denpasar. (2) Then you register online at this link https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeEQhRDce55toAIVuB4Uj0D-VAJLlpbpq0H1jq9jKnsPxOzEw/viewform Provide all your information along with your KITAS or KTP #. (3) Choose which of the clinics you would like to be inoculated at in Denpasar. We chose Pusekesmas Keliling Clinic in Sanur. (4) Plan the next day on being there at 6:45 AM in the morning to be first in line for registration. They will register you and give you an appointment Day and time for your shot as well as a form to fill out for that day. (5) We showed up at 11:00 AM. the next day for our scheduled inoculation.We were the only foreigners and there was perhaps 20 to 30 senior Indonesians. I highly recommend that you take an Indonesian friend or staff along with you to hurry the process and answer all the questions although I believe they also have English capabilities. (6) First enter room number 1 & register your name along with your document you received the day before completely filled out. (7) Enter room 2 where you are asked in English information about your health. They will take your blood pressure along with a blood sample. (8) Room number three is where the vaccination takes place. It was quick and frankly painless. I recommend do not wear any tight fitting shirts that you have a difficult time rolling up your sleeve. (9) Wait for 30 minutes to make sure that there is no adverse effects (10) Then You're on your way [SIZE=6]2. Public health center officers are brave enough to give vaccinations because they have a Denpasar ID card[/SIZE] When confirmed, the Head of the Regional Technical Implementation Unit (UPTD) of Puskesmas II Denpasar Selatan, drg Alfiana, revealed that the two foreigners had Denpasar City ID cards and registered for priority recipients of elderly vaccinations. That is what made the puskesmas dare to vaccinate the two foreigners. Each of them with the initials JEH (66) and BMB (70), are male and live in the Sanur area. "So (Yes) there are two foreigners who vaccinate COVID-19 at the puskesmas for the elderly. They already have Denpasar ID cards, ”he replied. [SIZE=6]3. The Head of Disdukcapil Kota Denpasar explained that both of them have KITAS[/SIZE] IDN Times then asked the Head of Disdukcapil for Denpasar City, Dewa Gde Juli Artabrata, regarding when the two foreigners were registered as residents of Denpasar City. From his explanation, BMB (70) was holding a Limited Stay Permit Card (KITAS) with an issue date of February 21, 2020 and ending on March 11, 2021. Meanwhile, the documents held by JEH are KITAS issued on February 14, 2020 and ending on March 12, 2021. "The documents that are owned are still KITAS," he explained. Just to note, Article 63 Paragraph 1 of Law of the Republic of Indonesia Number 24 of 2013 concerning Amendments to Law Number 23 of 2006 concerning Population Administration, states that Indonesian Citizens and Foreigners who have a Permanent Residence Permit who are aged 17 (seventeen) years or have been married or have been married are required to have an e-KTP. IDN Times then contacted the Spokesperson for the COVID-19 Vaccine Ministry of Health of the Republic of Indonesia, Dr. Siti Nadia Tarmidzi, to ask whether foreigners who hold a Limited Stay Permit (KITAS) can get free vaccinations? He gave an answer, that foreigners were not included in the vaccination target. "If foreigners do not enter the target of 181.5 million," he replied briefly, on Friday (5/3/2021). [SIZE=6]4. Elderly in Bali Province who are priority vaccinations are 340,683 people[/SIZE] The Bali Province Phase II COVID-19 vaccination is focused on Denpasar City with a target of 663,169 people. Head of the Bali Provincial Health Office, Dr. Ketut Suarjaya, last Sunday (21/2/2021), conveyed the targets for the second phase of vaccination, namely the elderly, the Indonesian National Army (TNI), the Indonesian National Police (Polri), public servants at the market, members of the House of Representatives Regional People (DPRD), to journalists with the following details:

Original article can be read here: IDN times Bali and a follow up article here: IDN times - Update

Mark

I understand that in Gianyar, anyone resident who holds a Gianyar address KTP or KTP-OA (ie foreigner) can receive the vaccine now, for free.. So far, the reports have been from expats over 60 years of age...

JackStraw

If you guys want some good reading, check out the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) from the government CDC website. I just set the results for 1 month and was astonished to see how many deaths there were from vaccines in the USA. Don't take my word for it. Check it out for yourself: https://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html

spicyayam

Do you need a follow up jab [USER=1522]@ronb[/USER]?

ronb

spicyayam wrote Do you need a follow up jab [USER=1522]@ronb[/USER]?

Yes, they suggest April 16.

Markit

If you guys want some good reading, check out the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) from the government CDC website. I just set the results for 1 month and was astonished to see how many deaths there were from vaccines in the USA. Don't take my word for it. Check it out for yourself: https://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html

You clearly have a haRDON for this shit but the best I got after a SL (shit load) of fruitless (no papayas) searching was: The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) database contains information on unverified reports of adverse events I did not underline UNVERIFIED but I did notice it. RUBBISH

JackStraw

Markit wrote You clearly have a haRDON for this shit but the best I got after a SL (shit load) of fruitless (no papayas) searching was: The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) database contains information on [U]unverified[/U] reports of adverse events I did not underline UNVERIFIED but I did notice it. RUBBISH

This is not some conspiracy theory site. It's posted on the CDC website. A US government website. If you searched thoroughly, you would see all the details of every report. There are thousands of cases of people dying within hours, days and weeks of receiving the covid vaccine. Here are a few: [ATTACH type="full" alt="3430"]3430[/ATTACH] Unverifed or not, these people all died around the same time they got the vaccine. That is undebatable. I'm not saying the vaccine was to blame but just thought these list of thousands of reports was very interesting to read.

ronb

I got my first jab of the coronavac vaccine from the Sinovac company at the Ari Canti hospital in Mas this morning. I was able to get it because I had a KTP (they need that NIK number) and was over 60. It took 2 hours in all, the first hour waiting for my queue number to be called and the second hour to progress from paperwork check; to medical check - temp, blood pressure, blood sugar and a series of medical history questions; to the jab itself; and finally to wait some time (to see if you survive OK) before the final paperwork. [ATTACH alt="3431"]3431[/ATTACH]

harryopal

And for how long it is believed to be effective? Or will this become another annual event?

Balifrog

harryopal wrote And for how long it is believed to be effective? Or will this become another annual event?

Very likely an annual event. To much a great business opportunity to not push it that way !