Kos-kosan no foreigners allowed?

kabouter

Am I reading this correctly? I understand they want to tax all the accommodations that aren't paying taxes at the moment. However most of the buildings with a kos2 license are actually registered (guesthouses). Does this mean none of these guesthouses are allowed to host foreigners anymore? https://radarbali.jawapos.com/read/2019/10/09/159808/pemberlakuan-pajak-kos-kosan-final-wna-tak-boleh-ngekos-di-badung

tel522

Am I reading this correctly? I understand they want to tax all the accommodations that aren't paying taxes at the moment. However most of the buildings with a kos2 license are actually registered (guesthouses). Does this mean none of these guesthouses are allowed to host foreigners anymore? https://radarbali.jawapos.com/read/2019/10/09/159808/pemberlakuan-pajak-kos-kosan-final-wna-tak-boleh-ngekos-di-badung

I heard that 2 days ago , owners whom have more than 10 kost must now pay tax , also no wna ie foriegn guests .

spicyayam

There was an article here in the Seminyak Times. It only mentions Badung but I guess where most foreigners are living https://seminyaktimes.com/badung-implements-kost-tax-and-prohibits-foreigners-staying-in-them/ I believe the minimum licence to rent rooms out on a daily basis is a Pondok Wisata licence. Kos is supposed to be for monthly rentals. I know some places where you can no longer get a Pondok Wisata licence, some hotels and even villas were getting a kos licence. Some kos are as good or perhaps better than hotels, so I can see the potential problems these very vague distinctions would make.

spicyayam

kabouter wrote I get that they want more taxes, because a large % of foreigners and locals are renting out their accommodation without paying taxes (and the proper license). But the no WNA allowed rule makes it seem like the hotel industry wants to get rid of all (budget) competition completely.

I can understand hotels and guesthouses who get all of the licences to run a business and pay the appropriate taxes are upset. Banning foreigners is not the solution though. Kosts should be paying their taxes like all other businesses and getting the correct licences.

harryopal

Anyone seen numbers of tourists who stay in low cost accommodation compared with upmarket hotels? If the hotel industry really wants to monopolize the tourist trade where does that leave less well heeled Indonesian or other Asian tourists. I may be wrong but I imagine a lot of western tourists stay in the cheaper places. And the overall impact on the many other businesses who benefit from budget travellers could be quite painful

kabouter

spicyayam wrote I can understand hotels and guesthouses who get all of the licences to run a business and pay the appropriate taxes are upset. Banning foreigners is not the solution though. Kosts should be paying their taxes like all other businesses and getting the correct licences.

I agree, but most guest houses that I know have a kos kosan license and not a hotel license. So de facto this will be a ban on guest houses. Probably won't get that far, but who knows over here.

kabouter

I heard that 2 days ago , owners whom have more than 10 kost must now pay tax , also no wna ie foriegn guests .

Wasn't that always the case, I think it is just the "real" kos/local accommodations that didn't pay tax, but the guesthouses with more than 10 rooms surely did?

There was an article here in the Seminyak Times. It only mentions Badung but I guess where most foreigners are living https://seminyaktimes.com/badung-implements-kost-tax-and-prohibits-foreigners-staying-in-them/ I believe the minimum licence to rent rooms out on a daily basis is a Pondok Wisata licence.

Thanks for the article. A pondok wisata as far as I recall used to be limited to a small tourism strip (at least here in Bandung) and 3 or 5 rooms max.

Kos is supposed to be for monthly rentals. I know some places where you can no longer get a Pondok Wisata licence, some hotels and even villas were getting a kos licence. Some kos are as good or perhaps better than hotels, so I can see the potential problems these very vague distinctions would make.

Yeah I think the issue is/was that there is no specific license for guest houses, so a kos kosan license was used instead. Also in a lot of areas where no pondok wisata's are being issued they are indeed getting a kos kosan license for their villa, since a rumah tinggal license wouldn't allow any renting (no long term either). I get that they want more taxes, because a large % of foreigners and locals are renting out their accommodation without paying taxes (and the proper license). But the no WNA allowed rule makes it seem like the hotel industry wants to get rid of all (budget) competition completely.