BonditoBali
Hi everyone, The wife, family and I are planning our move to Bali. I've joined a few Facebook groups to get a feel for some of the issues that affect people. I've noticed that there seem to be quite a few incidents of crime being reported, often home break ins, bag snatches etc. Generally, I am pretty careful so I am not overly worried. I'm Australian but I've travelled and lived in developing countries previously, and am well-aware of the multitude of things one must be aware of living in the those types of environments. My wife grew up in South America so she's even more careful then me! However, I thought I would seek advice from you all. Have you noticed a rise in crime in south bali? (we're planning on living between Berawa and Pererenan). What precautions do you take to secure your homes? Dog, security guard, alarm?Thanks! B2B
Markit
According to the statistics (if you care to believe them) crime in Bali has gone down quite significantly. Anyone that goes on the Bali Farcebook pages deserves everything they[I][B] don't[/B][/I] get - like [U]valid[/U] information. If you are making the move to Bali then go all the way and actually come to Bali - not the south of the island. That has about as much to do with Bali as Rimini does to the rest of Italy or Benedorm to Spain. If you spend any time in the south you will see that drunken party animals get attacked at 2pm in the morning or idiots will get their bags stolen as they sit on their tables at lunchtime when the owners blithely go off to the toilet. Is this really robbery? Or begging for trouble?
BonditoBali
Hi Markit, Thanks for your quick reply! I agree that fb does have its issues, but in my experience it can also be useful for getting immediate (and occasionally accurate) information. Initially, we'll need to move to the south. This is for a variety of reasons, e.g. (1) that's an area that we already know, and will be a good base to find other more interesting places to move to later, and (2) coming with small kids so wifey wants to be close to good facilities/infrastructure. But I'm confident that we will eventually move away from the masses. We're not the party animal type (particularly with small kids in tow), never go to Kuta etc. So I doubt that type of trouble will befall us.We're excited about a new adventure but after reading a lot of reports of home robberies, it did get me wondering about house security.Any thoughts?
Markit
Get a Bali dog and keep him well fed and on your property. If he suddenly drops dead he's probably been poisoned by the guys that want to break in to your pad tonight - get baseball bat and flame thrower. There have been several breakins even here in East Bali several years ago put they all had in common one thing - no dog. Well 2 things: they were also opportunity breakins - when everyone was gone for a ceremony(Balinese family with gold) but the rest were Westerners that had told their staff there was lots of money in the house - staff talk, duh... So get a dog and don't tell your staff where you hide the dosh. Simple really.
BonditoBali
Hi Markit, I appreciate the tip of getting a bali dog - seems like a wise investment! Fun for the kids too. We plan to keep valuables/money hidden as much as possible, but if the kids are playing with iPads etc , it's going to visible. What do you think about getting a security guard? An extra pair of eyes (particularly at night) seems like a good idea, but I read some bad reports (guards sleeping, possibly in cahoots with thieves etc).
Braveheart_shaped_box
Hi Markit, guards sleeping, possibly in cahoots with thieves etc.[/QUOTE] ... add having frequent sexual relations with the house female staff and hey presto, full Job Description
Markit
Please, please, peellllleeeeeaaase plan on keeping the pooch if you do get one and then taking it with you when you leave!! If I have to read one more story that you want to find a good home for fido 6 months after you have arrived here I promise you I will hunt you down and feed you to a herd of middle-aged, menopausal, chav grandmothers.
BonditoBali
Yes, I can imagine there would be more than a few long term visitors who sadly ditch their pets on departure. I guess one of the issues with taking a dog is whether quarantine laws would allow me to bring it to Aus. I have a vague recollection that it isn't possible without a stay in another country (Not Indo or Aus) for 6 months. I need to investigate that.
cherrell picton
Read the note about taking a Bali dog home if leaving Bali.I'd love to give a street dog a home but haven't been able to find out if there is anyway I could get back to Australia when we have to leave in 2016.The Australian Govn said we can't take from Bali but would have to take it via a country who accepts dogs from Bali but wouldn't tell me which countries these are.2 pet removal companies I have emailed haven't even responded.So I'm thinking it's all bad news, not possible. But if anyone knows differently please let me know. Especially as the Bali Governor this week asked all Bali residents to start killing Bali street dogs (article in Sanur news).
Markit
Yep, Governor said we should all start killing stray dogs. This is the same Gov that harvested world-wide accolades for catching Bali Bombers. You gotta wonder how hard these guys must have been to catch. Taking dogs from here to Europe (not UK) isn't hard, just expensive, they just have to stay in quarantine for a while and then test negative for Rabies antibodies.Oz? No clue, sorry. They probably have to get them to bite Tony Abbot and then wait 6 months until he starts talking sense or not.
mrsgabry
It is possible to bring your dog out of Bali but to do it the safe way will be quite expensive. Anyway -if you want to know more please send me a pm. It's not something to discuss in a public Forum. But why not foster a dog as long as you are in Bali? Many friends of mine who rescue dogs in Bali are desperately looking for foster homes. Especially as the situation at the moment is really sad. And when you have to leave Bali you can always rely to these people to rehome your dog. All these dogs will be vaccinated and neutered. If you are interested let me know. Please consider this option. It would be a big help even if it's only temporary.Read the note about taking a Bali dog home if leaving Bali.I'd love to give a street dog a home but haven't been able to find out if there is anyway I could get back to Australia when we have to leave in 2016.The Australian Govn said we can't take from Bali but would have to take it via a country who accepts dogs from Bali but wouldn't tell me which countries these are.2 pet removal companies I have emailed haven't even responded.So I'm thinking it's all bad news, not possible. But if anyone knows differently please let me know. Especially as the Bali Governor this week asked all Bali residents to start killing Bali street dogs (article in Sanur news).[/QUOTE]
BonditoBali
Fostering a dog is a great idea! Although I'm sure it would be very hard to sever those emotional connections when it's time to leave. I'll be in touch when we move to Bali.
mrsgabry
Great! Yes please contact me. Of course it will be difficult to go and leave the dog behind. But at least you know that someone will take care of him and not just abandon him on the street. And who knows: maybe until you have to leave Bali the laws will change. Never give up hope!Fostering a dog is a great idea! Although I'm sure it would be very hard to sever those emotional connections when it's time to leave. I'll be in touch when we move to Bali.[/QUOTE]
ferdie
FYI to get a decent security guard would require a lot of luck, most of them have obligations to their religion and generally they still sleeps on their watch, a dog is still your best options in my opinionFostering usually involves puppies, not the type of dogs that you have for security reasons, but I hope you'd find an adult dog available :icon_e_biggrin:
Braveheart_shaped_box
Thought Oz had enough grubby Dingos to worry about without importing more.
