Proud or ashamed to be Aussie?

Name_not_found

I love Australia and its people but... After landing on the eve of Nyepi we had to hold tight in a Kuta resort. Quickly realised Kuta is jammed packed with feral Aussies. Locked up with bogans who had nothing to do except drink themselves stupid by the pool. So much for silence. Easy to see why the locals treat us with contempt. Met so many amazing people in oz. Are there any in Bali?

spicyayam

Any what? Aussies? Amazing people? I am Australian but never feel ashamed if I see other people behaving badly. Why should I? Good and bad people everywhere and I think most Balinese understand this.

dav733

Mmm,,unfortunately you are right,,I usually stay away from Kuta,,prefer Sanur,,

Name_not_found

How am I meant to prepare for a public holdiay on steroids? The hole named Kuta reminds me of the Gold Coast, Changgu like Byron Bay and Ubud like its hinterland. The tourists change dramatically depending on area. Even the Russians are friendly in Ubud. Have to say I'm dissapointed with Bali. Would have liked to see it 30+ years ago.

Name_not_found

Waiting for Markit to take the bait but i got his unfunny cousin instead. Im slowly discovering the good and the bad. Actually found a couple gems yesterday (Tukad Cepung and Green Kebu). Put your money where your mouth is Johnny. What are the 'unseen' parts of Bali?

JohnnyCool

Name_not_found wroteI love Australia and its people but... After landing on the eve of Nyepi we had to hold tight in a Kuta resort. Quickly realised Kuta is jammed packed with feral Aussies. Locked up with bogans who had nothing to do except drink themselves stupid by the pool. So much for silence. Easy to see why the locals treat us with contempt. Met so many amazing people in oz. Are there any in Bali?

Well, you [B]did[/B] arrive on Balinese New Year’s Eve, and landed in Bogan Central. Not sure why you would be surprised (l[I]ack of preparation?[/I]). I mean, what did you expect? “Bogans” come in all shapes, sizes and nationalities. My favourite ones, (not in any particular order) are Australians, Dutch, Americans, Australians, Kiwis, Germans, Chinese, Australians, British, Russians and, wait for it, Balinese!). Hang on. You’ve never seen a Balinese “bogan”? Believe me, I have, admittedly usually in late night “cafes”, karaoke bars, and other assorted dens of iniquity, etc. Even village bazaars. There are two terms one should remember in Bali: [I]Sekala[/I] and [I]Niskala[/I]. The Seen and the Unseen. There you have it... :p

JohnnyCool

Name_not_found wroteWaiting for Markit to take the bait but i got his unfunny cousin instead. Put your money where your mouth is Johnny. What are the 'unseen' parts of Bali?

OK, but coins or notes? Should I chew and swallow them? Would a credit card count? The [I]'unseen' parts of Bali[/I], are places you haven't visited yet. [I]Niskala[/I] is the invisible world, which obviously, can't be seen directly. ;)

tel522

JohnnyCool wroteOK, but coins or notes? Should I chew and swallow them? Would a credit card count? The [I]'unseen' parts of Bali[/I], are places you haven't visited yet. [I]Niskala[/I] is the invisible world, which obviously, can't be seen directly. ;)

:):)

Name_not_found

Lots of coins and make sure you swallow. Next time you visit the shitter you can close your eyes and pretend you hit the jackot in Vegas.

JohnnyCool

Name_not_found wroteLots of coins and make sure you swallow. Next time you visit the shitter you can close your eyes and pretend you hit the jackot [[I]sic[/I]] in Vegas.

Don't know what your "point" here is, if anything. An Ozzie "shitter" these days is no where near Vegas. Maybe "outback" somewhere in Oz. Watch out for brown snakes and red back spiders under the toilet seat. Mate...I think you've lost the plot, if you had one to begin with. Good night. :cool:

JohnnyCool

[QUOTE]How am I meant to prepare for a public holdiay [[I]sic[/I]] on steroids?[/QUOTE] Umm...who was on steroids? You, the Balinese, or the "bogans"? Perhaps you should have started with a little bit of “research” [I]before[/I] you arrived. I’d call that “preparation”, of sorts. [QUOTE]The hole named Kuta reminds me of the Gold Coast, Changgu like Byron Bay and Ubud like its hinterland. The tourists change dramatically depending on area. Even the Russians are friendly in Ubud.[/QUOTE] So, if you [I]didn’t[/I] want to experience places you hated in the past, (Gold Coast, Byron Bay), why torture yourself by landing in “holes” here, totally unprepared? You some kind of masochist? [QUOTE]Have to say I'm dissapointed [[I]sic[/I]] with Bali. Would have liked to see it 30+ years ago.[/QUOTE] You’re way too late for that. I first came here 45 years ago. On the other hand, there [I]are[/I] still places in Bali that haven’t changed all that much but you have to go and find them. They’re there. Be careful what you wish for. Even Byron Bay was a nice place, many years ago. Don’t judge a book by its cover. Look at some of the other pages. You [I]might[/I] find something you actually like. :rolleyes:

Name_not_found

Dear John Thank you for charming and witty responses. Your insights have been invaluable, inspiring and have deeply enhanced my time here. Whilst the plot eludes me at this time, please accept my heartfelt gratitude on behalf of everyone in this forum. Your insincerely Blowcoinsouturarse

bakung

Well after a extended visit back home to Gods Country (Scotland of course) and not been checking out this forum for a bit i decided to have a look this morning and the first thing i read is 2 of them slogging it out over i must admit i dunno what, as it turned into a slagging match after the first few lines, so i see nowt has changed on here then its a case of ask a question and hold your breath to see if it will be a knife or a feather for the reply, ahh its good to be back in Bali

Name_not_found

bakung wroteWell after a extended visit back home to Gods Country (Scotland of course)

God's country back to the island of Gods... You surely must be devout. Was just trying to have a little fun with him but some people aren't happy to receive what they give. I got to admit that he was right about having to dig deeper in Bali. So many layers for such a little place. Expats will happily tell you where to find it overpriced jar of Vegemite but when it comes to posting something of real value they keep it to themselves. I do get it but a hint on where to dig would be nice.

davita

bakung wroteWell after a extended visit back home to Gods Country (Scotland of course) and not been checking out this forum for a bit i decided to have a look this morning and the first thing i read is 2 of them slogging it out over i must admit i dunno what, as it turned into a slagging match after the first few lines, so i see nowt has changed on here then its a case of ask a question and hold your breath to see if it will be a knife or a feather for the reply, ahh its good to be back in Bali

Welcome back bakung. I haven't been home to bonnie Dundee myself for over 50 years so wouldn't know if it is still God's country. I do however suggest you didn't need to jump on this thread to re-introduce yourself when there are many other amicable threads..... or you could have started your own. This thread was started by a person who has 'no name' and, clearly from his/her OP, had an agenda. There is no doubt that many drunks roam the Kuta area and have done so for many years...JohnnyCool pointed out this was nothing new and it wasn't only Aussies that are the culprits but, as this info didn't comply with the OP's narrative, he/she went on the offensive in a personal and insulting way.

davita

Name_not_found wroteGod's country back to the island of Gods... You surely must be devout. Was just trying to have a little fun with him but some people aren't happy to receive what they give. I got to admit that he was right about having to dig deeper in Bali. So many layers for such a little place. Expats will happily tell you where to find it overpriced jar of Vegemite but when it comes to posting something of real value they keep it to themselves. I do get it but a hint on where to dig would be nice.

If you ask any specific questions I'm sure there are enough members extremely willing to advise...probably 'over-the-top' too much advice.

bakung

I do however suggest you didn't need to jump on this thread to re-introduce yourself when there are many other amicable threads..... or you could have started your own, OUCH be gentle until i get in the swing of it old feller ?. if you want to go back to Dundee or indeed any other part of Scotland you had better get on a crash course of Polish or Bulgarian or else you be left talking to yourself as i thought the pilot had fecked up and landed in Warsaw by mistake, but on the plus side i learnt 35 different ways how to use a cabbage in cooking. Now i will crack open a Bintang and read the other posts to see whats going on in Bali and get up to date on the gossip.

Name_not_found

bakung wroteI i thought the pilot had fecked up and landed in Warsaw by mistake.

Love it! Times it by 1000 and you might get how the Balinese feel. The Poles are decent hard working people and Scotland could do worse. I might just go back to lurking in the shadows, sit back, and watch my bridges burn.

davita

bakung wroteI do however suggest you didn't need to jump on this thread to re-introduce yourself when there are many other amicable threads..... or you could have started your own, OUCH be gentle until i get in the swing of it old feller ?. if you want to go back to Dundee or indeed any other part of Scotland you had better get on a crash course of Polish or Bulgarian or else you be left talking to yourself as i thought the pilot had fecked up and landed in Warsaw by mistake, but on the plus side i learnt 35 different ways how to use a cabbage in cooking. Now i will crack open a Bintang and read the other posts to see whats going on in Bali and get up to date on the gossip.

Aghh...you bring back memories bakung.......Cabbage an' mushy peas for dinner; Marmalade on toast for brekky; Weekend treat of fish and chips wrapped in the Courier; The stink of Jute; Poverty; Morgan Academy where I spent a miserable 3 years, mainly getting the 'strap', and was happy to hear somebody burned it doon......all the memories of why I left Scotland in 1952 and never returned.

bakung

Yes the " good old days " whoever thought that one up must have been a bit of a comedian. Still it sets you up for whats to come.