JohnnyCool
You may have all noticed recently that certain websites are "blocked", and faced with a box that says "[B]Internet Positif[/B]". Now, I have no problem with the government trying to limit access to porn, terrorism, child exploitation sites, etc. The trouble is is that whatever "genius" is implementing this is a complete fuckwit. Pissing in the wind, if you like.An example: I regularly go to a website called playingforchange.com. This site is about music, promoting poor musicians around the world, etc. There is absolutely zero offensive content. So - why is it "blocked"? (A rhetorical question.)On the other hand, I can still access various torrent sites, some of which [B]do[/B] have questionable downloads available. Makes no sense to me.Work arounds for this are widely and freely available. Just goes to show how lame the current Minister of Communication is. What he knows you can write on the back of a bus ticket and still leave room for the Bible.Some Indonesians claim that simply changing your DNS settings can overcome this. I disagree.A more elegant "solution" is to employ a Virtual Private Network (VPN). Because this latest move has pissed me off big-time, I've spent a few days trying out various free VPN services. The one that works best for me, so far, is [B]Freegate[/B] (freegate.com). Unlike some of the others, it doesn't require installing software, setting up new internet connections, etc. Unfortunately, it defaults to opening up Windows Internet Explorer as the preferred browser. There are ways to change that but I haven't figured them out properly, yet.I'd be happy to hear about any other methods people have tried that work.:grumpy:
Markit
The other alternative is to use proxy servers as previously discussed here. Steer clear of "Expat Shield" a free proxy server, it works OK, only OK, not great but installs some other BS adware on your system too which can be annoying and time consuming to get rid of.
JohnnyCool
The other alternative is to use proxy servers as previously discussed here. Steer clear of "Expat Shield" a free proxy server, it works OK, only OK, not great but installs some other BS adware on your system too which can be annoying and time consuming to get rid of.[/QUOTE]Free proxy servers and "anonymisers" [I]might[/I] work. I've had no luck with them. And as you've found, some of them want to install all kinds of bullshit on your system.That's one main reason why I went for [I]Freegate[/I]. It doesn't install anything - you can even run it straight off a flash-disk.I am [B]not[/B] saying it's "the best", but so far, in my experiiments, it works better than OpenNic, MyBestVPN, etc. Without having to alter network settings.
ronb
I agree that Telkom recently changed the way they push you to Internet Positif. Some months back when you entered the name of your blocked site, the Telkom DNS servers just returned to incorrect IP number. So simply changing to Google DNS servers got around that. Now you can enter the name of the blocked sit and Google DNS returns the correct IP number, but somewhere before you get out of Indonesia, Telkom diverts you to a different IP number. So they are now one-step smarter than they were.Since all I want is torrent sites, so far I am getting along fine with the solution at piratebrowser.com. Obviously it is an on-going battle world-wide, and those who are trying to block access to certain sites are are having some success. Who knows how it will eventually turn out?
Markit
True words Ron - I love that all the majors are reporting such success in getting people to stop using the torrent sites to download music. Fact is everyone already has all the music they could ever want, hell I'm down to d/ling Frank Zappa and the Mothers... for want of anything that I might, just maybe, possibly, in some far away distant dimension want to listen to.
JohnnyCool
I agree that Telkom recently changed the way they push you to Internet Positif. Some months back when you entered the name of your blocked site, the Telkom DNS servers just returned to incorrect IP number. So simply changing to Google DNS servers got around that. Now you can enter the name of the blocked sit and Google DNS returns the correct IP number, but somewhere before you get out of Indonesia, Telkom diverts you to a different IP number. So they are now one-step smarter than they were.Since all I want is torrent sites, so far I am getting along fine with the solution at piratebrowser.com. Obviously it is an on-going battle world-wide, and those who are trying to block access to certain sites are are having some success. Who knows how it will eventually turn out?[/QUOTE]Glad to hear you're having "success" using the piratebrowser "solution". My understanding is that it's built on top of TOR - a haven for cyber criminals and all the rest. If I were you, I'd be running some serious scans on your computer for malware, crapware, shitware, rootkits, etc.I also disagree with you that Telkom are [I]now smarter than they were[/I]. "One-step 'smarter' ain't enough". My question would be why, and at whose instigation, are these measures being taken? There are many legitimate uses for P2P file sharing.What Telkom, Tifatul, etc, don't seem to understand is that by-passing their attempts at blocking sites is being done without too much effort (think the Great Firewall of China). They will never win this one.I am pissed-off with those fuckwits blocking totally legimate sites that have [B]nothing[/B] to do with torrents, porn, whatever.:grumpy:
ronb
Occasionally I get malware, and quickly back off and try and figure which download may have done it. I have not seen any problems with PirateBrowser. For now it's allowing me to access the sites of interest - but who knows for how long.Why would Indonesian Government companies take these actions? I think that trade agreements between western countries and developing countries often have clauses about protecting intellectual property. Colonialism - 21st century style.
JohnnyCool
Occasionally I get malware, and quickly back off and try and figure which download may have done it. I have not seen any problems with PirateBrowser. For now it's allowing me to access the sites of interest - but who knows for how long.Why would Indonesian Government companies take these actions? I think that trade agreements between western countries and developing countries often have clauses about protecting intellectual property. Colonialism - 21st century style.[/QUOTE]The simplist answer would be that the Indonesian Minister of Communications (Tifatul) is a 100% idiot. Possibly born that way.One could then ask who put this guy in his position in the first place? And more importantly, why is he still there?Full tits has been "busted" for following **** tweets. I gather that he's tried to remove them and his excuse was that he ticked a wrong button.I just went to the Redshark website, (it's about high-end movie cameras, etc). And there was the fuckin' Internet Positif again. Drives me nuts when perfectly legitimate websites get compromised.I went there from a normal link for Redshark in my email. I hadn't invoked my own VPN gateway.What I would like to know is how/where I can make complaints about this to Telkom Speedy, and Mr Tifaful himself (when he's not busy chasing **** as part of his ministerial "duties"). Hopefully, he'll be gone soon (forever).If you're getting "malware occasionally", backing off "quickly" might not be fast enough. Fully scan your computers for the usual crap and also for rootkits."Intellectual property" and Indonesia don't sit well together, although there are [I]some[/I] feeble attempts at addressing this. Don't hold your breath.
spicyayam
Just noticed reddit is blocked. Might be time to find a VPN. Any other recommendations? Around $40 a year seems average.
Markit
Just noticed reddit is blocked. Might be time to find a VPN. Any other recommendations? Around $40 a year seems average.[/QUOTE]Not for me using Tri as provider. Got all the major torrent/news/ahumm, and **** sites too, but I never go there, ahumm!For instance found this little gem there: [url]http://en.dailysocial.net/post/bali-will-be-telkomsels-first-4g-lte-roll-out[/url]
JohnnyCool
From markit's link above, I liked the last paragraph:The 4G service in Bali will be an attempt to prove that Indonesia is embracing the latest in telecommunication technology, even as the arrival of 4G LTE in the country is considered quite late, seeing as Singapore for example, has had it since 2012.[/QUOTE]The obvious problem with catch-up is that it's like the hit-a-mole game.For example, when will [B]5G[/B] be rolled out in Bali?Maybe when 6G kicks in...At least Tifatul's gone from the new government.Perhaps the new crew haven't gotten around yet to dismantling the InternetPositif fiasco.:icon_eek:
Markit
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